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Poll: Should straight people get to decide what's homophobic?
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Yes, str8s should be able to deny gay people calling something homophobic.
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28.07% |
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No, straight people don't get to decide what's homophobic.
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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I don't agree with either of the poll options. I think that straight people should be allowed to criticize homophobic statements, but they shouldn't be allowed to tell a gay person what is and isn't homophobic. If a gay person is offended by something than its probably at least somewhat homophobic. Just because it doesn't offend all gay people doesn't mean its not homophobic.
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by Starburst
Oh stop being so overdramatic, This is why straights think we're pathetic and weak. Look at you getting all upset over a word. You fairies are the reason we get no respect.
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Stop. You are the definition of overcompensation with no payoff.
Also, minorities dont get to earn respect. They have to demand it.
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
It's common as hell for people to say "whattup my *****!" to friends and "you're a ****" as a rude insult though. At least in the US
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I live in NYC. I know people greet each other that way. I know people fight that way. But we're talking about people using derogatory words/words to describe a people to describe something else negative. Like you calling a bad outfit "Latino". It makes no sense and makes you sound like a damn 11 year old fool. It's the same thing with calling something negative gay. Like, are you a troll?
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Originally posted by zach
And that makes it OK? 
I literally haven't heard anyone use the term "that's so gay" since the 7th grade.  |
Same I haven't heard it since Freshman year nobody really says it anymore and it's already going out of fashion alongside "***"
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Originally posted by Aaron
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And the answer is no.
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Member Since: 5/29/2012
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The phrase "that's so gay" is homophobic because it compares gay people to something negative/ridiculous. Simple as that. It's sad some people are so blind to this.
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
I actually hear "that shirt is so gay" in a positive way often though because stereotypically they have the best fashion sense It's not meant in offense at all rather in praise. |
GoodBYE. Now you're saying using stereotypes is fine for positive praise. And I have NEVER heard someone use the word in the way that you're suggesting.
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by Starburst
Oh stop being so overdramatic, This is why straights think we're pathetic and weak. Look at you getting all upset over a word. You fairies are the reason we get no respect.
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Originally posted by ks_dollar
Gay people justifying the use of homophobic slurs... I'm baffled
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The word "gay" is now a homophobic slur?
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Member Since: 5/14/2012
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You, as a straight person, cannot tell me, a gay person, what I can and can't be offended by when it comes down to homophobia. If you say, "Oh that **** is gay" when referring to something as stupid or dumb, I have a right to be offended, because I'm sick of my sexuality being the go-to insult for everything. It's offensive, period.
If a tv show, or something else in the word is stupid, just say it's stupid. Why do you have to say "Oh that's gay?" If it's stupid, it's stupid. If it's dumb, its dumb. "Gay" has nothing to do with those two, and to continue to use the word and associate it with something negative is problematic.
And if you continue to use that word in a negative context, purposely and knowingly, you have a problem and might want to take that up with yourself.
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Originally posted by tittieslap
I live in NYC. I know people greet each other that way. I know people fight that way.But we're talking about people using derogatory words to describe something negative. Like you calling a bad outfit "Latino". It makes no sense and makes you sound like a damn 11 year old fool. It's the same thing with calling something negative gay. Like, are you a troll?
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I'm not talking about people using it derogatorily though. If I were, I would agree with you 100%
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The fact that people think it's okay to say "that's so gay" is wrong, especially to young lgbt people, its perputates the stereotype that it's wrong to be gay, bi, lesbian etc
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Originally posted by psychodj
You, as a straight person, cannot tell me, a gay person, what I can and can't be offended by when it comes down to homophobia. If you say, "Oh that **** is gay" when referring to something as stupid, dumb, or anything, I have a right to be offended, because I'm sick of my sexuality being the go-to insult for everything. It's offensive, period.
If a tv show, or something else in the word is stupid, just say it's stupid. Why do you have to say "Oh that's gay?" If it's stupid, it's stupid. If it's dumb, its dumb. "Gay" has nothing to do with those two, and to continue to use the word and associate it with something negative is problematic.
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That's what I'm saying. you choose what to be offended by
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I hear "that's so gay" virtually everyday. You probably mustn't leave your house that often to claim you 'haven't heard it in years'.
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
GoodBYE. Now you're saying using stereotypes is fine for positive praise. And I have NEVER heard someone use the word in the way that you're suggesting.
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
It's common as hell for people to say "whattup my *****!" to friends and "you're a ****" as a rude insult though. At least in the US
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Wow. Am gonna assume troll. Bye
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
*** is same thing. A ciggarette, a gay person, or an insult. It's not ignorant logic there are literally hundreds of essays arguing my points (alongside the opposing point)
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Oh my god. You know what, I'm already done with this thread (well, you). I'd recommend everyone else quit too. You'd find more logical, intelligent discussion with a loaf of bread.
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Originally posted by tittieslap
 The fact that you care so much about what straight people think is honestly sad. People should express how they feel, not try to appease or cater to them. |
Sorry that I don't want to be a victim my whole life. You guys don't want real acceptance, you just want to get treated like a special snowflake so that nobody gets to tell you you're wrong. It's just frustrating knowing I can't be accepted as a gay human being because most gays are too busy getting their panties in a bunch over this nonsense rather than making real progress and changes for our community.
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Member Since: 5/29/2012
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Originally posted by Goosey
The word "gay" is now a homophobic slur?
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If can be a slur when used to describe something negative, sadly. 
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by Ari Auris
I'm not talking about people using it derogatorily though. If I were, I would agree with you 100%
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But even if it's intentionally derogatory, isn't it the receivers fault for being offended? That's what you said.
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Originally posted by Vespertine
Oh my god. You know what, I'm already done with this thread (well, you). I'd recommend everyone else quit too. You'd find more logical, intelligent discussion with a loaf of bread.
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Amazing how close-minded you are and how incapable of reading
It's all up to what you choose as offensive and how to react to it.
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