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Discussion: Ariana Managed to Recover But Gaga Didn't, why?
Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Letters From Adi
what did Ariana impact?
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Many ppl are getting skinnier and healthier, thanks to DW era.
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Um why are you comparing two artists not even in the same peer group
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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How did Gaga not recover?
Gaga is an artist who writes and makes music, and while Joanne is on iTunes, the truth is that that's what the album is all about. Would you still believe if they were not what you were taught to believe?
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Originally posted by Jude
Many ppl are getting skinnier and healthier, thanks to DW era.
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skinny =/= always healthy.
chubby people can be healthy too
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Originally posted by GoneHome
i walked into a straight club the other day and someone randomly said who's hotter, Gaga Katy Rihanna or Ariana and everyone gathered around and said Gaga. Then someone mentioned Katy and everyone said no and same for Beyonce and Ariana. Then PI came on and everyone started fist bumping and screaming the chorus.
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Nnnnn
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Letters From Adi
skinny =/= always healthy.
chubby people can be healthy too
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Fats and cholesterol are never considered healthy. Or do you consider high blood pressure, heart attacks, paralyzed due to stroke, etc healthy?
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Ariana makes good music and the public is still interested in her. And she's gorgeous.
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Their circumstances are completely different. Ariana's situation was a personality thing that had nothing to do with her music brand overall; Gaga's issue is at brand level. Ariana came across like a brat/asshole, but her brand as a whole was never considered passé/uncool/embarrassing. Gaga's brand was the paragon of a trend that became wildly popular, overdone and then fell sharply and completely out of favor; her entire identity as an artist (as far as the GP is concerned) was entangled with the rise and fall of that era. Just having to ride out a wave of negative press is very different from having to successfully complete a full brand rehab.
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Originally posted by Jude
Fats and cholesterol are never considered healthy. Or do you consider high blood pressure, heart attacks, paralyzed due to stroke, etc healthy?
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I said chubby, not obese.
I could make the very same arguement.
Anorexia is a good thing to you,I guess then.
Being underwight can lead to
-Osteoporosis
-Amenorrhea
-Infertility
-Hair loss
-Anaemia
-Weak immunity.
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Originally posted by Ascension
Their circumstances are completely different. Ariana's situation was a personality thing that had nothing to do with her music brand overall, Gaga's issue is at brand level. Ariana came across like a brat/asshole, but her brand as a whole was never considered passé/uncool/embarrassing. Gaga's brand was the paragon of a trend that became wildly popular, overdone and then fell sharply and completely out of favor; her entire identity as an artist was entangled with the rise and fall of that era. Just having to ride out a wave of negative press is very different from having to successfully complete a full brand rehab.
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True.
I still don't look at either girl for their personalities I'm here for the music not the #bling
Ashamed of what happened to Gaga in the long run like she hasn't even brought back a variation of the hair bow this era, queen of rebranding
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ascension
Their circumstances are completely different. Ariana's situation was a personality thing that had nothing to do with her music brand overall; Gaga's issue is at brand level. Ariana came across like a brat/asshole, but her brand as a whole was never considered passé/uncool/embarrassing. Gaga's brand was the paragon of a trend that became wildly popular, overdone and then fell sharply and completely out of favor; her entire identity as an artist (as far as the GP is concerned) was entangled with the rise and fall of that era. Just having to ride out a wave of negative press is very different from having to successfully complete a full brand rehab.
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So Ariana's backlash was personal while Gaga's was only abstract.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Letters From Adi
I said chubby, not obese.
I could make the very same arguement.
Anorexia is a good thing to you,I guess then.
Being underwight can lead to
-Osteoporosis
-Amenorrhea
-Infertility
-Hair loss
-Anaemia
-Weak immunity.
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Ariana is just skinny, not anorexic, shame on you.
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Originally posted by Jude
Ariana is just skinny, not anorexic, shame on you.
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Ariana suffers from hypoglycemia.
She should be eating carbs, not doing rigorous activities.
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How so do you mean. Gagas latest album debuted at number 1, Arianas latest could only manage number 2. Gaga opened with over 200k wheras ariana only did 175k, Gagas latest album is on track to outsell arianas total even though it has only just been released. Gaga "recovered" by getting to headline the largest stage in the world, the superbowl, ariana is doing jingleballs. I don't understand how one could reach the conclusion in the op
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Originally posted by CakeLike
How so do you mean. Gagas latest album debuted at number 1, Arianas latest could only manage number 2. Gaga opened with over 200k wheras ariana only did 175k, Gagas latest album is on track to outsell arianas total even though it has only just been released. Gaga "recovered" by getting to headline the largest stage in the world, the superbowl, ariana is doing jingleballs. I don't understand how one could reach the conclusion in the op
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Gaga doesn't have hit singles!!11!!1!
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Originally posted by J a y
Oh, that.
Wasn't sure if it was the faux penis scandal, (banned) sex toy mag cover, rosary beads, meat dress x2, the sick act, well.. I could go on and on.
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what
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by CakeLike
How so do you mean. Gagas latest album debuted at number 1, Arianas latest could only manage number 2. Gaga opened with over 200k wheras ariana only did 175k, Gagas latest album is on track to outsell arianas total even though it has only just been released. Gaga "recovered" by getting to headline the largest stage in the world, the superbowl, ariana is doing jingleballs. I don't understand how one could reach the conclusion in the op
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Ariana managed to score 2 top 10 hits this era. One is a solid top 5 hit.
Ariana's latest album is at 1.3B streams on Spotify while Joanne is only at 300K.
DW youtube views is at 310M, IY is at 375M, and STS is at 620M and is set to hit 1B this first quarter of 2017. All Joanne singles has yet to reach 100M.
Ariana has #1 pop song for this era.
Despite having huge streaming numbers, DW album still managed to sell 1M+ copies WW and certified is gold/platinum in almost all major countries+in many minor countries.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Jude
Ariana managed to score 2 top 10 hits this era.
Ariana's latest album is at 1.3B streams on Spotify while Joanne is only at 300K.
DW youtube views is at 310M, IY is at 375M, and STS is at 620M and is set to hit 1B this first quarter of 2017.
Ariana has #1 pop song for this era.
Despite having huge streaming numbers, DW album still managed to sell 1M+ copies WW and certified is gold/platinum in almost all major countries+in many minor countries.
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as if Purpose, 21 and ANTi didn't sell massively while being streaming giants
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