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Discussion: The Janet disrespect HAS to stop!!!
Member Since: 3/18/2008
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I think she gets the amount of respect she deserves.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Jet
I never said she didn't have impact or influence others. Her stats don't come close to the legends of her time unfortunately.
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You're not making any sense. You says she's not a legend, when her legacy is as vast as Beyonce and Britney spears. 2 of the biggest female pop girls this century? And on top of that changed the landscape of KPOP. What more of legacy does one need to qualify as a legend?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I'm kinda on Jet side.
Janet is just not really memorable to people. At least in my circles. I ain't
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by LoveInStereo
Hm how about respect goes both ways and I don't respect artists that don't sing live, cancel all their dates and expect their fans to buy crap?
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She does sing like a third of her set live. Nobody goes to a Janet concert to hear her try to sing Miss You Much breathlessly while doing the chair routine. Also, please let me know what she has "expected" of you or bullied you into buying, and Janet Nation will reimburse you
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
That the Janet fans feel the most threatened by. Thought I'd finish the sentence for you.
I don't see Celine dion fans acting a fool in Christina aguilera or Leona Lewis threads.
Lead by example. Don't throw shade and get mad when it's throw back.
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Don't play coy. You don't see people opening threads every week asking, "is Beyonce bigger than Celine?" or "Britney vs. Whitney: career impact?" Don't think Janet fans really have anything nasty to say in Beyonce and Britney threads either -- I'm personally a fan of both! Of course people will get defensive when we're constantly being provoked with this kind of nonsense.
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Member Since: 6/13/2012
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
That the Janet fans feel the most threatened by. Thought I'd finish the sentence for you.
I don't see Celine dion fans acting a fool in Christina aguilera or Leona Lewis threads.
Lead by example. Don't throw shade and get mad when it's throw back.
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If you don't teleport your ass somewhere with that BS.
It's a known fact Beyonce fans are spiteful to any successful black woman, past or present. It's the reason why y'all always try to disregard the legacies of legends like Janet, Mary, Mariah, etc just to uplift Beyonce.
And why y'all are so hateful to Rihanna, because she's the only black woman that's been able to rival Beyonce in success over the years.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by Jet
I never said she didn't have impact or influence others. Her stats don't come close to the legends of her time unfortunately.
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Nobody cares about stats in the real world.
Chopin sold 0 records. Miles Davis & Kate Bush don't have "great stats"
Impact & influence is what makes a legend so I'm sorry but Janet is it.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Javan
You're not making any sense. You says she's not a legend, when her legacy is as vast as Beyonce and Britney spears. 2 of the biggest female pop girls this century? And on top of that changed the landscape of KPOP. What more of legacy does one need to qualify as a legend?
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Beyonce has also been influenced by Mariah and Whitney, Britney has been influenced by Madonna as well. I'm not knowledgeable about kpop so I can't speak on that but in America, Janet's impact is less expansive than that of the true legends. Sure her dancing inspired some people but her music (the most important thing) is kind of left behind in the past.
If you walk up to random people on the streets and ask which 5 women are the most influential musicians of all time, odds are Janet won't be mentioned at all. Sad but true.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Wicked
Nobody cares about stats in the real world.
Chopin sold 0 records. Miles Davis & Kate Bush don't have "great stats"
Impact & influence is what makes a legend so I'm sorry but Janet is it.
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Irony. In a previous thread yesterday, Rihanna fans were just arguing how touring stats weren't important because only singles and streams and albums count for a legacy. Nothing about impact, ironically.
But I now agree with what a Navy is suggesting. Impact > everything else.
Janet had some impact.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 5,580
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Originally posted by Hi_im_new
If you don't teleport your ass somewhere with that BS.
It's a known fact Beyonce fans are spiteful to any successful black woman, past or present. It's the reason why y'all always try to disregard the legacies of legends like Janet, Mary, Mariah, etc just to uplift Beyonce.
And why y'all are so hateful to Rihanna, because she's the only black woman that's been able to rival Beyonce in success over the years.
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Bey fans love Aretha, patti, Diana, Tina, Chaka, Donna, Ella, Nina, Billie, Gladys, Anita, Dionne, Barbra n such. The real legends
Continue to seek our validation.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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who still cares what ATRL thinks
its not like they have the power to make she less important than she is
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Member Since: 1/16/2011
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Originally posted by Jet
Beyonce has also been influenced by Mariah and Whitney, Britney has been influenced by Madonna as well. I'm not knowledgeable about kpop so I can't speak on that but in America, Janet's impact is less expansive than that of the true legends. Sure her dancing inspired some people but her music (the most important thing) is kind of left behind in the past.
If you walk up to random people on the streets and ask which 5 women are the most influential musicians of all time, odds are Janet won't be mentioned at all. Sad but true.
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No impact on music when she's one of the reasons why R&B and hip hop are so closely related nowadays?
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Don't play coy. You don't see people opening threads every week asking, "is Beyonce bigger than Celine?" or "Britney vs. Whitney: career impact?" Don't think Janet fans really have anything nasty to say in Beyonce and Britney threads either -- I'm personally a fan of both! Of course people will get defensive when we're constantly being provoked with this kind of nonsense.
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There was a bey vs Celine thread not to long ago. And it didn't turn into a blood bath. Because both sides are secure in the talent that was pit against each-other. You Janet fans hit below the belt and expect us to take the high road. No ma'am. Ain't nobody provoking y'all. The ongoing thread wasn't even made by a bey fan. But y'all take on any excuse to spew the vicious venom.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Drag ATRL the way Janet is DISRESPECTED on this forum is beyond pathetic when she makes better music than most other pop girls
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by Jet
I wish Janet fans weren't so insecure. They always feel like every criticism of her is a personal attack which is pathetic. Janet isn't a legend and majority of her music is forgotten, that doesn't take away from her accomplishments but don't pretend like it's not the truth.
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Just like with Beyoncé..you'll have an aneurysm if someone was to say this about Bey.
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Member Since: 6/13/2012
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
Bey fans love Aretha, patti, Diana, Tina, Chaka, Donna, Ella, Nina, Billie, Gladys, Anita, Dionne, Barbra n such. The real legends
Continue to seek our validation.
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All of those women you just named would consider Janet a legend as well. But continue to be bitter. Just know that Beyonce knows the deal, & has always shown homage to the woman she's clearly been inspired by.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
Posts: 21,185
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Originally posted by Jet
Beyonce has also been influenced by Mariah and Whitney, Britney has been influenced by Madonna as well. I'm not knowledgeable about kpop so I can't speak on that but in America, Janet's impact is less expansive than that of the true legends. Sure her dancing inspired some people but her music (the most important thing) is kind of left behind in the past.
If you walk up to random people on the streets and ask which 5 women are the most influential musicians of all time, odds are Janet won't be mentioned at all. Sad but true.
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so this means you literally go on streets asking random people who are the most important females on music just to have some receipt on a music board
i wish i was this deticated for other things in life
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Auburn
No impact on music when she's one of the reasons why R&B and hip hop are so closely related nowadays?
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I literally said on the previous page that I acknowledge the fact that she has had impact and influence on music. What are you reading?
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
Posts: 32,819
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Originally posted by OnMyCoolJ
There was a bey vs Celine thread not to long ago. And it didn't turn into a blood bath. Because both sides are secure in the talent that was pit against each-other. You Janet fans hit below the belt and expect us to take the high road. No ma'am. Ain't nobody provoking y'all. The ongoing thread wasn't even made by a bey fan. But y'all take on any excuse to spew the vicious venom.
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You can't group me with "you Janet fans" when it's usually only like 3 people who engage in that sort of pettiness. If anything I try to stay away from those kinds of threads because there's just nothing to be gained. I never claimed it's Beyonce fans specifically targeting Janet either, but you can't deny that ATRLers love using Janet's name to stir the pot.
It's cool that you act so above it when you're right there throwing shade at Janet in any thread you can, too.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Hi_im_new
All of those women you just named would consider Janet a legend as well. But continue to be bitter. Just know that Beyonce knows the deal, & has always shown homage to the woman she's clearly been inspired by.
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Bey is a respectful person and would say something nice about lumidee if she was asked. What does that have to do with the Janet fans and their FEAR of acknowledging Bey's slayage? All those women have praised bey. Janet's brother was the biggest bey Stan of all. Why y'all so upset?
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by Hi_im_new
All of those women you just named would consider Janet a legend as well. But continue to be bitter. Just know that Beyonce knows the deal, & has always shown homage to the woman she's clearly been inspired by.
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And this is what eats up some of her stans. Like Beyoncé has said out of her mouth several times how Janet has influenced her..like, I just can't. It doesn't diminish Beyoncé's success, but you have to pick your battles wisely. Janet's impact knows no bounds.
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