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Fan Base: Archived: Lady Gaga (#2)
Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 16,409
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Her basic pop music slayed so much like I dont understand the absolute need to sound so different.
Evolution is key for an artist but her sound or image for each era could've been extended for sure.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
Posts: 15,569
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Originally posted by iHype.
Taylor is an accurate comparison.
She disappeared from public mostly, her era stopped, and she didn't do anything huge after '22' underperformed.
Still yet, she came back, dropped a single with no prior hype, promotion, or announcements and is looking to debut at #1.
One Direction have literally been so irrelevant since 'Story of My Life' and can come back this year and likely drop a song and still have it skyrocket to #1 on iTunes.
Gaga can't send a song to #1 on iTunes anymore, Gaga can't sell out venues anymore, and she can't make an event for people to talk about. Her fanbase is diminished. She needs to get them back.
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The Beyonce comparison is also apt since she didn't have a mainstream hit during the entire 4 era, yet she still came back in a huge way.
Gaga wasn't -completely- gone from the public eye either. She still got publicity for being barred from touring in Jakarta, getting smacked upside the head by one of her dancers, crying on stage about Madonna making fun of her, launching the FAME perfume, and canceling her tour due to her hip. The only time she entirely flew under the radar was during her recent 3-month mid-era blackout.
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
Posts: 42,362
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Originally posted by GetYourAssInMyBed
All of this is completely false tho. Most of her artRAVE dates have been sold out so far. DWUW and all the promo singles went #1 on iTunes. And Gaga gets tons of headlines every day. She even got media coverage for her ****ing ice bucket challenge
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Not you unintentionally clocking yourself.
The PROMO singles all went #1 on itunes because of the pre-order effect...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 59,596
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Originally posted by TanguyMonsterr
She will never have a successful era again, simply because she's labelled as a "gay singer".
Sure, she's probably gonna have moderate hits like Applause, but that's all. She will never sell as much as before, never will be as powerful as before. Lady no more Gaga.
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As damaged as her brand is, she's still highly respected and is connected to far too many legends to simply "fade." She'll just have successful albums, not so successful albums. To her though, as an artist, this is probably great because it basically means she can do whatever the hell she wants without having to worry about the expectations.
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Member Since: 12/7/2010
Posts: 26,813
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God save Gaga. And her haters.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 4,839
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The over reactions in here are hilarious tho
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
Posts: 15,264
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PHILLIP MINUTO
@1iloveladygaga
Lady Gaga also said that she knew with this album they were coming for her throat. She said they always come for the 3rd album
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https://twitter.com/1iloveladygaga/s...96309378342912
She's still convinced it's not her/the messiness/the quality?! 
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
Posts: 42,362
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Beyoncé has had a much longer career and is hot, which appeals to the straights. It was much easier for her to rise (mostly from first weeks hype, her album still underperformed and flopped outside the US) than it will be for Gay singer Lady Gaga.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Not you unintentionally clocking yourself.
The PROMO singles all went #1 on itunes because of the pre-order effect... |
Forgot about that 
She can still sell out venues though!
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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To be fair, it would have been a moderate era if she hadn't given up halfway through the album run and not even commit to DWUW.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
Posts: 59,872
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Originally posted by H-I-M
The lack of promo also plays a major role. In Europe for example, her last big hit here was TEOG, no wonder that her albums sales were the pits here.
But then you have countries like Japan that also followed the trend and had her album sales go from 750K to 200 something K. I just don't get how the WHOLE WORLD can drop her at the same time.
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The whole world dropped her @ the same time 'cause her stanbase disappeared.
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Originally posted by GetYourAssInMyBed
All of this is completely false tho. Most of her artRAVE dates have been sold out so far. DWUW and all the promo singles went #1 on iTunes. And Gaga gets tons of headlines every day. She even got media coverage for her ****ing ice bucket challenge
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Nothing was false it's just as a whole she's lost the power.. 
Yes, she still sent songs to #1 on iTunes during ARTPOP, how long did they last at #1? 2 hours? How much did they end up selling by the end of the week? Compared to BTW singles?
Yes, she still sells out dates but are the venues not 2x smaller? Is she not giving away free tickets in Australia?
She gets no media coverage at all compared to BTW. She had a woman puke on her, the DWUW snippets were leaked by TMZ, and she has a Space performance yet the public has not caught on or cared about any of it. Any of that during BTW/TFM would've drove public CRAZY.
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Originally posted by Meowster
Taylor Swift has never hurt her own brand though (actually, she might be right now, but that is a different discussion). Gaga's issue, aside from that, is getting progressively darker and morbid at an alarmingly fast rate, something a good amount of her original fans did not like (and to be fair, you take several years to undergo a transformation like that, not two). And then she wanted to win back the fun and young crowd she lost with BTW with Artpop, but it turned away the fanbase she got from TFM and BTW who wanted something dark and meaningful.
She has several different fanbases under the mask of one, all wanting different things, so she was in a lose/lose situation from the get go. A lot of people jumped ship to Lana (twice: the pretentious crowd to BTD and then the "dark and meaningful" crowd to Ultraviolence. Ironically, she herself is losing fans at an alarming rate too) and the success and fun fans seemed to gravitate toward Katy Perry.
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Red was controversial to her Country fans. WANEGBT was barely Country, IKYWT fully Pop. Even Nicki has damaged her brand SO MUCH overtime, and can still have so much of a hit every few weeks and SO MUCH media coverage.
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Originally posted by GetYourAssInMyBed
she will come back, I'm sure of it. She can't just be gone. all she needs to do is release a song that get's the GP interested again |
I also like to think this, but honestly everyday she continues to make more bad decisions and her power just fades more and more. I'm so scared for her. 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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The sad thing is that people actually still consider her ugly/weird and think that she has trash music ( which is true for ARTPOP  ) and have a completely bad perception of her. But I don't think she will be in that situation forever, it's not really about her, if the people like the music and the songs they hear, they will buy it regardless of who sings it. If she sends a song to radio that might be well-liked, not something with atrocious lyrics or something only her fans like, then the radio will give it a chance and it will do something for her.
Then again, the tricky part might be getting people to buy her album. But if she promotes everything well, she can do it.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Not you unintentionally clocking yourself.
The PROMO singles all went #1 on itunes because of the pre-order effect... |
Venus also got blocked by Story Of My Life.
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Member Since: 12/7/2010
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Few things Gaga needs to work on before her next pop era:
1. Fashion - she can look sexy (GUY) but she more often looks like a total mess 
2. Forget about gays
3. Work on her performances
4. Work on her dancing skills, she's getting worse and worse
5. Stop being pretentious, forget about exaggerating. Keep it classy (ARTPOP promo pic #1)
6. Work with famous producers (Max Martin, Dr. Luke, Shellback, RedOne)
7. Stop promoting ART, focus on commercial, relatable lyrics
8. Stop hiring random people for her videos.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 16,409
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It felt like only yesterday 
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
Posts: 42,362
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Originally posted by iHype.
The whole world dropped her @ the same time 'cause her stanbase disappeared. |
But how and why ? Gaga was literally selling out STADIUMS in Japan and France 12 months before ARTPOP's release. So how can her fans all disappear AT THE SAME time ? Even in Japan, even tho the drop there isn't as dramatic as in the rest of the world.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
Posts: 27,547
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Originally posted by BadMonster
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ARTPOP is a decent album, as I've always said. The media was out for her the moment her and Katy were releasing at the same time 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
Few things Gaga needs to work on before her next pop era:
1. Fashion - she can look sexy (GUY) but she more often looks like a total mess
2. Forget about gays
3. Work on her performances
4. Work on her dancing skills, she's getting worse and worse
5. Stop being pretentious, forget about exaggerating. Keep it classy (ARTPOP promo pic #1)
6. Work with famous producers (Max Martin, Dr. Luke, Shellback, RedOne)
7. Stop promoting ART, focus on commercial, relatable lyrics
8. Stop hiring random people for her videos.
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I dont even like you that much but where's the lie ?
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
Posts: 59,872
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Ugh, everything is just digging her into a deeper and deeper hole.
She shoulda cancelled the damn C2C era. It's so USELESS. None of the singles will make impact, the album won't make impact.
I know she wants those Grammys, but damn ugh.
She could've ended ARTPOP, and Spring 2015 came with a new Lead Single.
BTW sized radio-deal. SO Pop Friendly. Sell out friendly. **** if she doesn't like how generic it is. She NEEDS a #1 hit.
Something to put her image back to 'Oh so friendly Just Dance Gaga'. Something people go, 'Did you hear that new Gaga song? It's actually good.  '.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by iHype.
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Nothing was false it's just as a whole she's lost the power..
Yes, she still sent songs to #1 on iTunes during ARTPOP, how long did they last at #1? 2 hours? How much did they end up selling by the end of the week? Compared to BTW singles?
Yes, she still sells out dates but are the venues not 2x smaller? Is she not giving away free tickets in Australia?
She gets no media coverage at all compared to BTW. She had a woman puke on her, the DWUW snippets were leaked by TMZ, and she has a Space performance yet the public has not caught on or cared about any of it. Any of that during BTW/TFM would've drove public CRAZY.
I also like to think this, but honestly everyday she continues to make more bad decisions and her power just fades more and more. I'm so scared for her. |
She's playing the same venues she played for the BTWB. She got a lot of media coverage. especially when ARTPOP flopped. Everyone was talking about that and the media went crazy for the puking and the DWUW video snippets. You are really overreacting. Like seriously. She will come back easily. I won't be able to convince y'all now but she will. You can't just write her off so soon
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