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Celeb News: ARTPOP Official Reviews: 61/100
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Sputnik was being satirical (at least that's my impression)
but much worse reviews were counted for Chris Brown's last album where there were attacks on his life rather than the album
unprofessional maybe but it's nothing new
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Metacritic should really review every review before adding it to their average.
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Oh. You're still alive and obsessed. I thought you might have gotten sold off to the highest bidder by now. Guess that crusty ***** isn't worth anything.
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Metacritic should really review every review before adding it to their average.
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Just because you didn't get sputnik's point and satirical review, doesn't mean the review should be disqualified. metacritic doesn't give a **** about our faves or their fans. they provide an average of popular critics' scores, that's it. not which ones will satisfy a fanbase.
Critics have a long history of being funny and rude. When they don't think something is good, it's kind of their job. Of all the reviews to disqualify, it definitely shouldn't be this one. They didn't even attack her personally.
Just accept that critics don't care for this album as much as her other ones. Maybe after the novelty wears off, you'll be able to.
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Just because you didn't get sputnik's point and satirical review, doesn't mean the review should be disqualified. metacritic doesn't give a **** about our faves or their fans. they provide an average of popular critics' scores, that's it. not which ones will satisfy a fanbase.
Critics have a long history of being funny and rude. When they don't think something is good, it's kind of their job. Of all the reviews to disqualify, it definitely shouldn't be this one. They didn't even attack her personally.
Just accept that critics don't care for this album as much as her other ones. Maybe after the novelty wears off, you'll be able to.
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tl;dr shut up, trash. No one cares nor asked for your biased, deluded opinion. Go finger yourself to Britney Jean, MDNA or some try hard indie act.
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tl;dr shut up, trash. No one cares nor asked for your biased, deluded opinion. Go finger yourself to Britney Jean, MDNA or some try hard indie act.
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lmao. but I actually liked ARTPOP, am not looking forward to BJ and those try hard indie acts are slaying the critics.
you sound like you've reached beyond meltdown mode right now. whatever will you do when this album underperforms not only critically, but commercially too?
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Just because you didn't get sputnik's point and satirical review, doesn't mean the review should be disqualified. metacritic doesn't give a **** about our faves or their fans. they provide an average of popular critics' scores, that's it. not which ones will satisfy a fanbase.
Critics have a long history of being funny and rude. When they don't think something is good, it's kind of their job. Of all the reviews to disqualify, it definitely shouldn't be this one. They didn't even attack her personally.
Just accept that critics don't care for this album as much as her other ones. Maybe after the novelty wears off, you'll be able to.
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It would have been satirical had he actually wrote the review for ARTPOP specifically and was actually that witty. But he just copied the format from another reviewer and posted it in the template form of ARTPOPs songs. That's ridiculous. I'd rather him give it a 0 than ******** his way through a review to half-ass it. Even people who read Sputnik are calling him out on it and the only ones who agree with the review are the ones who just don't like the album and thought it was funny. And while I got a giggle out of it, these types of reviews shouldn't be allowed to count because they're not reviews. But meh a lot other artist have their fair share of bad ones too. :/
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The Sputnik review is giving me LIFE!
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This album probably will end right around 65-70.
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Oh. You're still alive and obsessed. I thought you might have gotten sold off to the highest bidder by now. Guess that crusty ***** isn't worth anything.
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Now that was low even for you.
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HitFix review is mixed:
http://www.hitfix.com/news/lady-gaga...rtpop-review/2
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In many ways, Lady Gaga has always been a performance artist posing as a pop act these last few years. On her newest studio effort, “Artpop,” out Nov. 11, she concentrates more on the art, than the pop, and the album is worse for it.
The majority of “Artpop” is a meditation on fame, culture, fashion, sex, drugs, music and pop art (hence the Jeff Koons cover). That high-flying intersection may be where Lady Gaga lives now, but it’s feels like the end of lonely street. Largely cold and soulless (at least until the final few songs)—whether from the clinical, loud, electronic production or from Lady Gaga’s often mannered delivery and stilted lyrics —”Artpop” is for her the Little Monsters who loudly embrace their outside status buffeted by the shelter of Momma Monster’s umbrella. In some ways, Lady Gaga can be applauded for making an album that in no way aims for radio acceptance (though first single, “Applause” found it), but it’s going to be a hard sell to her mainstream fans.
Even when she’s poking fun at herself, as she does on “Mary Jane Holland”: “I know at the moment they think I’m a mess/but its alright because I’m rich as piss,” she sings, there’s a part that rings true. She used to be one of us, but now she is one of them, even if she wants to joke that she’s not. And don’t get me started on the pretension of having an album title in all caps.
Some of Lady Gaga’s biggest hits, like “Bad Romance,” or “Paparazzi” have featured different patches of songs stitched together, bonded by her mannered vocals. Along the beats or weird synths, there was usually a melodic chorus that glued the whole song together. That happens far less often here and the result is an collection of songs that sounds intentionally cacophonous and chaotic. She may be saying exactly what she wants to about the state of pop culture, but that doesn’t mean we’ll want to listen.
Working with a phalanx of producers here, from DJ White Shadow to Zedd, David Guetta, will.i.am, RedOne, Madeon and even Rick Rubin, what Lady Gaga could have really used here was a great editor to craft her ambition a little more tightly.
Track-by-track review of “Artpop”:
Aura: The opening salvo, also heard in “Machete Kills” is a campy, fun invitation to go on this trip with Lady Gaga and see her naked underneath the covers. The shape-shifting song opens with a sultry voice over by Gaga that recalls Shirley Bassey before switching to a kitschy, synth-laden, stuttering vocal portion. Eventually it moves into a catchy sung portion, where she questions if you want to see the girl who lives behind the aura. Rinse and repeat. Final word: Artpop. Welcome to the album. GRADE: B
Venus: Go on an interplanetary journey with the goddess of love in this trippy, EDM number around the planets. Sample lyric: “Uranus, don’t you know my ass is famous?” There’s a great disco tune in here centered around the “When you touch me I die...This could be love” chorus, but it gets buried in the space mission. Fun fact: “Venus” samples Zombie Zombie’s cover of Sun Ra’s “Rocket Number Nine.” GRADE: B
G.U.Y.: From Venus, we go to Eros, Greek god of love. “Let me be the girl under you that makes you cry,” she sings in this dancey track that features a refrain redolent, but less catchy, than “Bad Romance. She’s still on her space travels, but this track feels far more weighed down by its clunkiness. GRADE: C
“Sexxx Dreams:” She’s a nasty girl on this hypnotic track. Her boyfriend is out of town, so she’s left to masturbate and think of her lust object. Hey, at least it has a real bass line. GRADE: C
“Jewels N’ Drugs” featuring T.I., Too $hort and Twista: Lady Gaga largely cedes the spotlight to the three rappers here on this hip-hop industrial track. It’s fun to hear them share the mic in a strange bedfellows kind of way and Twista’s trademark fast delivery is a kick. GRADE: B
“MANiCURE”: Her aggressive vocal, like Annie Lennox’s in “I Want A Man” crossed with Joan Jett, drives this pulsating track, one of “Artpop’s” most accessible, about a serial killer. It shifts into industrial dance at the end, but still finishes strong. GRADE: B+
“Do What U Want” featuring R Kelly: The least Lady Gaga-like track on here is pop dance track with an ‘80s feel. Bolstered by a strong vocal by Lady Gaga, it still feels relatively generic, as she proclaims, “do what you want with my body,” though you can’t have her heart. Whether it’s a straight come-on or a retort to her detractors who commented cruelly on her weight fluctuations, it’s the odd man out on “Artpop.” GRADE: B-
“ARTPOP”: The title track serves as the album’s thesis statement. Under the guise of a romantic relationship, she wants to see if art and pop can live together in this sinewy, mid-tempo track. “Artpop can be anything,” she says. GRADE: B-
“Swine”: Opening with vocal hiccups before swelling into a strong vocal performance by Gaga, the track is a full-on dance track that makes one thing perfectly clear, Lady Gaga doesn’t think a lot of you. “I know, I know you want me/you’re just a pig inside a human body... squealer, squealer, squealer, you’re so disgusting.” She could be talking about the tabloid press, she could be talking about men. Who knows? One of the album’s more interested tracks. GRADE: A-
“Donatella”: Lady Gaga’s homage to Donatella Versace, that pokes fun at the shallow word of fashion, including bulimia and spray tans. “I’m a rich bitch/I’m the upper class,” may be the ultimate compliment to someone of this station, but for the rest of us, it plays like too much insider information. The trap-influenced dance break could be fun live. GRADE: D
“Fashion!”: The piano opening sounds so welcoming, that it’s all the more jarring when the electronic clash comes back in. Lady Gaga sounds great as she sings about wanting a love that’s not material, but the song drowns in its own pretension. GRADE: C
“Mary Jane Holland:” Lady Gaga singing in an exaggerated mannered tone, extols the virtue of Mary Jane, hanging in Amsterdam, and generally looks at the fame game. It’s a driving, throbbing track that includes call-outs and psychedelic turns. In other words, it’s more like a bad acid trip than a mellow high. GRADE: B-
“Dope”: Lady Gaga at the piano, with a little electronic, accompaniment, is an absolutely unbeatable combination (especially given Rick Rubin’s rumored production). This is a show stopper of a love song, as she declares, pushing her powerful voice, that she “needs you more than dope.” Her voice trails off a cappella at the end of the ballad in a tragic, resolute way. GRADE: A
“Gypsy”: A piano-based ballad about living the gypsy life that quickly goes into a bouncy rocker, with the same drive as “Marry the Night.” “I don’t want to be alone forever/but I can be alone tonight,” she sings as she compares herself to “The Wizard of Oz’s” Dorothy. It’s Lady Gaga at her poppiest and it’s one of “Artpop’s” few songs, where, like the Tin Man, she finds her heart. GRADE: A
“Applause”: “Artpop’s” first single is propulsive, driving track is a layered, dance twirler about how Gaga lives for, you guessed it, “Applause.” Opening with a staccato beat (a la “Paparazzi”) as Lady Gaga sings in a very mannered, dramatic fashion, “I stand here waiting for you to beat the gong/to crash the critics saying, ‘Is it right or is it wrong’?,” “Applause” has been in the top 10 for weeks. GRADE: B+
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And they also have this article titled 9 Signs Lady Gaga has Lost Her Way:
http://www.hitfix.com/news/9-signs-l...s-lost-her-way
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Lady Gaga's newest album, "Artpop," comes out Monday. While an album from Momma Monster is always cause for excitement (and it looks like this one will have a strong opening of 450,000 copies or so), there are several signs that look like Lady Gaga has lost her way a bit.
Even before news broke this week of her split with longtime manager Troy Carter, several of us at HitFix felt like her career was a little unsteady, whether it was the feeling that the songs leaking from "Artpop" weren't as compelling as past material or her grab to propel fans to buy multiple copies of "Applause" to juice it up the charts or even just the fact that she doesn't seem to be having much fun anymore, here's a look at a few ways Lady Gaga seems to have lost her path a little. Here's hoping the missteps are only temporary.
1. Alienating fans by focusing on her fame
Lady Gaga has always been self-referential about her own stardom (a nod to Andy Warhol, who the pop superstar has always pegged as one of her main inspirations) that added another interesting layer to her music - and in some sense actually made her more relatable than ice queens like Madonna, Christina Aguilera or Rihanna. But while the conceit somehow added to her appeal in the past, there's a sense as of late that she's taken it as far it could go, and that fans are now starting to rebel against all the musical egocentrism. Take "Applause," "ARTPOP's" first single that - while it managed to peak at number four on the Billboard Hot 100 - never seemed to catch fire the way Katy Perry's straightforward empowerment anthem "Roar" seemed to, for example. With lines like "If only fame had an I.V., baby could I bear/Being away from you, I found the vein, put it in here," "Applause's" qualities as a catchy pop tune (which it is) have in some ways been overshadowed by the nakedly self-indulgent lyrical content. Going forward, perhaps moving in a more thematically-accessible direction would be wise for Mother Monster.
2. She doesn't seem to be having fun anymore
As odd as it may seem, one of the biggest signs that Lady Gaga seems to be losing her way a bit is she just doesn’t seem to be having much fun. She’s too caught up in the Fame Game and clutching onto her superstardom: For example, every artist makes use of social media these days to build the hype, but luring fans to buy multiple copies of “Applause” in hopes of flying to a festival to meet her (one fan allegedly bought 300 copies) or tweeting virtually nothing but promo missives about where/how/when to purchase “Artpop” feels like it’s all work for someone who used to so clearly love playing and her connection to her fans.
3. The case of the missing music videos
Lady Gaga seemed unbeatable when it came to over-the-top, delightful and (sometimes) dance-heavy videos. Clips like "Bad Romance," "Telephone" and "Paparazzi" had strong concepts and striking looks. So far, we've gotten "Applause" (and its weak lyric video), and I can hardly remember much about it beyond the boob-based costume changes and that little clapping move. For such a visual artist, I find myself craving more music videos at this point in the hype cycle, especially since her live performances have underwhelmed, too, thus far.
4. Splitting with her manager Troy Carter
It's never a good sign when you split with a manager -- who helped make you a star -- only a week away from the release of your new album. "Creative differences" have been the pullquote over the parting-of-ways, though more reports indicate Carter's input was snipped early on in the "Artpop" cycle. Gaga obviously had a vision for "Artpop": Carter could have been cut out of the loop because he didn't share or like that vision, or had no way to help her translate that vision to the masses. Or it could be that managers, in many cases, can be an artist's only source of "no" when all others say yes and that no longer flies for the pop singer. For a man who helped her sell millions of albums, and send her on some of the most tight, best-selling concert tours of the past decade, Carter's role as a "no-man" seems to be fairly important, especially with a challenging new era in Lady Gaga's lifeline.
5. Deciding to put the R Kelly song on her album and not the Cher duet
Look, it's not that we don't like R. Kelly (we do! We really, really do!), but the math is simple: 2 divas + 1 great song = album track. Gaga has never relied much on guest artists in the past, but for "ArtPop," she misstepped by including her Kellz collab "Do What U Want" while ignoring "The Greatest Thing," her deliciously over-the-top disco duet with Cher. The ladies teamed for the tune last year and it was expected to be on at least one of their upcoming albums, but it has yet to be released officially. Instead, "ArtPop" includes "Do What U Want" -- a morally questionable, repetitive electro crawler that's just too tame.
6. Style over substance: she always artfully combined both, now the music seems to be getting lost
Love or hate tunes like "Just Dance," "Bad Romance" and "The Edge of Glory," all of them offered up solid songwriting to go along with the catchy production. Gaga's new stuff, on the other hand, seems to err far more on the "slick and empty" side of things, whether it be the mindless space-disco of "Venus" ("Have an oyster, baby/It’s Aphrod-isy/Act sleazy") or the catchy-but-slight R. Kelly-assisted sex banger "Do What U Want." Has Mother Monster simply run out of inspiration, or does she still have more to say? While her first couple of singles seem to point to the former, tracks like the vulnerable Rick Rubin-produced "Dope" hold out hope that maybe, just maybe, there are more layers of Gaga yet to be revealed.
7. She has reached a weird insular level of fame that we just can't relate to
Lady Gaga was always seen as a bit of a misfit, by design. She embraced her Little Monsters who saw themselves reflected in her no matter how famous she got. But now, it feels like she’s living in such rarified air that she’s no longer relatable. When she’s singing about hanging out with Donatella Versace, that’s a conceit that few fans can relate to. As we mentioned earlier, she’s concentrating too much on her own fame, but it’s more than that. Fans loved her because she was different: very attractive, but not cookie-cutter beautiful; shapeshifting in her appearance and dress; not afraid to speak out on issues that matters, like gay marriage. Now, she feels like she’s living alone in the Haus of Gaga surrounded by people on her payroll she considers friends (or not, depending upon the lawsuit filed by her ex-employee).
8. Resorting to Twitter feuds with Perez Hilton, etc instead of espousing her former Love All vibe
Even if you weren’t a fan of her music, it was impossible to not be a fan of Lady Gaga’s heart. Whether she was speaking out at gay rights rallies or putting her money where her mouth was by starting a “Born Brave” bus that showed up at her concerts to counsel kids who were being bullied, she felt like a champion of the underdog. But now it seems she’s more interested in Twitter feuds with Perez Hilton and other detractors then remembering her Love All messages of yore. She’s tarnishing her own brand when she resorts to such tactics.
9. "Artpop" -- as an album concept -- isn't resonating
"I live for the applause, applause, applause…" Got it Gaga. That makes sense, especially since "The Fame" as a concept made sense. This long-form attempt at commentary about art as entertainment and pop music as art -- as admirably ambitious as that is -- isn't striking a chord like "Fame" and "Born This Way" did. Of course, Gaga can make any damn album she damn well pleases, but the "pop" part of that equation gets lost when you're losing listeners at so-called "art." Just like Justin Timberlake is pumping out songs about suits and ties in economically unstable and vulnerable times, Gaga is making dense, insular statements during a time when people might not want that from their pop.
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that Sputnik review is the best and arguably the shadiest one Ive ever read,
they are basically saying its just another pop album by Gaga ,hence why they even gave it a 50(same as BTW) .....they are indifferent if you will about the album ........
And reporting it is a waste of your time,there have been worse reviews that have been accepted ,this one is actually not even bad ......just not easy to understand at first.
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People loosing their minds because of metacritic score.
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This album probably will end right around 65-70.
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Omg really?! Bold prediction.
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Wow the reviews are very mixed. I like the album, but she could have got rid of a couple songs.
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