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Poll: Bigger cultural impact: Tik Tok or Bad Romance?
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Kesha
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gaga
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Tan Mom
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
1) This thread is not about sales
2) TiK ToK sold more anyway
Laughing because it's true?  |
you took that out of context , i was speaking to KS about tik tok's replacer , it wasnt even directly about the threads main topic anymore
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Think:
- on the direction of music
- on the GP
- on use of language
- on fashion
- on behaviour and attitudes
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^ looking at the 'thinks' , itd looks like itd be a subjective thread.
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Originally posted by Optimus
Bad Romance of course. Its iconic and everyone knows that Rah-rah hook. tik tok is long forgotten
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Time to throw away your calendar from 2010. 
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Originally posted by Georges
If Tik Tok wasn't successful these songs wouldn't be even recorded.
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mess I don't know, hard to say. I think they are on par but I voted Bad Romance because knew that Tik Tok would win this.
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I would never say the rah rah Gaga line in public because i would be outing myself and also be embarrassing because most people here find Gaga embarrassing and an old fad.
If I sang tik tok, people laugh and bump and grind along  everyone loves ke$ha ro$e!!
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Bad Romance is forgotten and this is coming from a Gaga fan. Tik Tok wins.
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TiK ToK 
EDIT: Note the people who are saying Bad Romance...they all have something in common.
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Originally posted by BudBud
you took that out of context , i was speaking to KS about tik tok's replacer , it wasnt even directly about the threads main topic anymore
^ looking at the 'thinks' , itd looks like itd be a subjective thread.
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Still... it proves both of our points because
a) other songs were made after it to sound like it and replicate its success
b) TiK ToK is still the original with more impact and relevance today (Katy has many more successful songs than CG)
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Originally posted by Hug
TiK ToK
EDIT: Note the people who are saying Bad Romance...they all have something in common. |
Yeah, it's literally just another case of "Oh look Mother Monster's in another ATRL poll, better vote for her out of loyalty because I'm a good little Monster!" Like they're just lying to themselves. It's not just Gaga, nobody has a song bigger than TiK ToK since it was released.
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Originally posted by Yianni2004
The one with the grammy(s)
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Grammys are local to the US and don't have anything to do with cultural impact, though! 
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Think:
- on the direction of music
- on the GP
- on use of language
- on fashion
- on behaviour and attitudes
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Easily neither. Both were disposable pop music with little (and I'm talking extremely minimal) to no "cultural impact" in those areas.
Their greatest impact concerns the artists who made them.
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Yeah, it's literally just another case of "Oh look Mother Monster's in another ATRL poll, better vote for her out of loyalty because I'm a good little Monster!" Like they're just lying to themselves. It's not just Gaga, nobody has a song bigger than TiK ToK since it was released.
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Stop saying this.  Happy, Rolling In The Deep and Gangnam Style alone were all bigger than Tik Tok.
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Bad Romance, I'd say had the bigger impact overall despite Tik Tok having better sales. BR is lyrically superior, better production, had the better video, the fashion was a cut above Tik Tok etc etc.
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Originally posted by pika
Stop saying this. Happy, Rolling In The Deep and Gangnam Style alone were all bigger than Tik Tok. |
Happy only seems big because it was recent. Happy's impact and relevance 5 years from now will be NO WHERE NEAR as strong as TiK ToK's today.
Rolling In The Deep's impact was great, and right up there with TiK ToK, but it's inflated due to 21 being so big. 21 as a whole era and album was much bigger than the song itself. And aside from people liking the song for being a song, it didn't have much impact; nobody quotes its lyrics unless they're singing the song itself (unless you count sitting in a chair as impact hihi)
Everyone knows Gangnam Style was a fad. It was MASSIVE for a portion of time and it's fun to look back at for novelty purposes but its impact was very short-lived and instantaneous. It was a viral sensation, not a successful song with cultural impact in its own right.
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Y'all should chill. Tik Tok is not the biggest song of the last 5 years.
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Happy only seems big because it was recent. Happy's impact and relevance 5 years from now will be NO WHERE NEAR as strong as TiK ToK's today.
Rolling In The Deep's impact was great, and right up there with TiK ToK, but it's inflated due to 21 being so big. 21 as a whole era and album was much bigger than the song itself. And aside from people liking the song for being a song, it didn't have much impact; nobody quotes its lyrics unless they're singing the song itself (unless you could sitting in a chair as impact hihi)
Everyone knows Gangnam Style was a fad. It was MASSIVE a portion of time and it's fun to look back at for novelty purposes but its impact was very short-lived and instantaneous. It was a viral sensation, not a successful song with cultural impact in its own right.
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Gangnam Style sold 22 million copies WW, it's the best selling digital song of all time, literally. It was more than just a hit song like Tik Tok, it was a phenomenon. the other 2 songs did better on the charts and Rolling in the Deep is very much so quoted while Happy is a mass appealing demographic song. Just stop this Tik Tok impact you're talking about really isn't that big.
although it is more remembered than Bad Romance, i agree.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Sam Jay
Still... it proves both of our points because
a) other songs were made after it to sound like it and replicate its success
b) TiK ToK is still the original with more impact and relevance today (Katy has many more successful songs than CG)
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i think we are all right in this subjective thread 
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
Happy only seems big because it was recent. Happy's impact and relevance 5 years from now will be NO WHERE NEAR as strong as TiK ToK's today.
Rolling In The Deep's impact was great, and right up there with TiK ToK, but it's inflated due to 21 being so big. 21 as a whole era and album was much bigger than the song itself. And aside from people liking the song for being a song, it didn't have much impact; nobody quotes its lyrics unless they're singing the song itself (unless you count sitting in a chair as impact hihi)
Everyone knows Gangnam Style was a fad. It was MASSIVE for a portion of time and it's fun to look back at for novelty purposes but its impact was very short-lived and instantaneous. It was a viral sensation, not a successful song with cultural impact in its own right.
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^ not you dismissing these songs like that , tik tok was big but its not the founder of music
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I find ATRL's double standard/hypocrisy when it comes to Lady Gaga hilarious. One minute you have people saying she peaked with 'Bad Romance' and that she'll never have anything quite like 'Bad Romance' ever again and the next minute you've got people saying things like, "no one remembers 'Bad Romance' anymore."
'Tik Tok' was a big hit and that's it. 'Bad Romance' was a big hit and a cultural phenomenon. It's what pushed Gaga from popstar to mega-popstar. 'Tik Tok' did nothing for Ke$ha as a popstar. It didn't lead her to sell 1m copies first week with her next record. It didn't lead her to gross over $400m on tour. It didn't lead to Grammys, critical acclaim, or one of the biggest popstar peaks in history. It didn't do anything at all other than top the charts. 'Bad Romance' was when people turned their head and started paying attention to Gaga. It's when record producers started saying "wow, we've gotta pay attention to this girl". After that, even Ke$ha herself started dressing like Gaga because everyone wanted a piece of her success.
Deny it all you want, Gaga is four hundred times more successful than Ke$ha ever will be and it's all because of what 'Bad Romance' did for her.
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Originally posted by pika
Gangnam Style sold 22 million copies WW, it's the best selling digital song of all time, literally. It was more than just a hit song like Tik Tok, it was a phenomenon. the other 2 songs did better on the charts and Rolling in the Deep is very much so quoted while Happy is a mass appealing demographic song. Just stop this Tik Tok impact you're talking about really isn't that big.
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Receipts for that figure would be appreciated.
This thread is not about sales, it says so in the OP.
Gangnam Style wasn't a hit song because of the song, it only blew up because of the video and because people thought it was funny. Nobody quotes the lyrics because nobody knows what is says (besides "Oppa Gangnam Style" or whatever) and the dance. There were multiple things that made the song a hit and least of them was the song itself. It was a phenomenon I agree, which I why I don't consider it comparable to TiK ToK as the biggest song of the last 5 years as it was so much more than that. That would be like saying an album track on 21 was the biggest song of the last 5 years because it sold more than TiK ToK... it's not comparable.
All three of those songs (Happy, Rolling In The Deep, TiK ToK) went #1 for weeks WW... not sure how you think one did better than the other in that regard? Rolling In The Deep is not quoted it's sung there's a difference ("We could have had it all" and "Don't stop, make it pop" are like not even comparable in terms of any kind of iconic) and TiK ToK was just as mass-appealing as Happy. I think you're forgetting JUST how big it was since it was released 5 years ago as apposed to Happy's 1 (not even) and RITD's 3 or so.
This Happy and Rolling In The Deep impact you're talking about really isn't that big.
Word of advice: saying "Just stop" as one of your arguments really isn't a very good idea and just makes it look as if you're running out of options.
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