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Poll: Whats Beyonce's next move?
View Poll Results: Whats Beyonce's next move?
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She still has enough time and promo to release a successful lead single!
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she tarnished all chances of having a successful lead single. Nothing can be done at the moment.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Britney Is Fierce
I think she can, otherwise she wouldn't have written so many songs for her new album, including the lead single Werk Bitch
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loooooooool. So naïve
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Eternium
Every mainstream artist has to look at commercial appeal, though. There's a reason "Grown Woman" was recorded so many different ways. A mainstream artist looking for commercial appeal isn't a bad thing, inherently, as long as they deliver quality.
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The reason it was recorded so many different ways was because that is how art works. It's a process, there are drafts and changes made. All were leaked. It's not like she recorded a pop, r&b, and country version. There are just slight changes.
And I agree that a mainstream artists has to look at commercial appeal, and I'm sure Beyonce does to some extent but I think she's more concerned about the music than the appeal it'll have. Otherwise she wouldn't have recorded an album like 4 in a climate of dance pop breakdowns. Then again, Beyonce isn't one to typically just follow trends, but even so, she still had songs that fit into the pop climate better than 4 did.
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omg @#the results
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Originally posted by swissman
The reason it was recorded so many different ways was because that is how art works. It's a process, there are drafts and changes made. All were leaked. It's not like she recorded a pop, r&b, and country version. There are just slight changes.
And I agree that a mainstream artists has to look at commercial appeal, and I'm sure Beyonce does to some extent but I think she's more concerned about the music than the appeal it'll have. Otherwise she wouldn't have recorded an album like 4 in a climate of dance pop breakdowns. Then again, Beyonce isn't one to typically just follow trends, but even so, she still had songs that fit into the pop climate better than 4 did.
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The different versions weren't just different takes, but full versions. I'm by no means bashing Beyoncé, but it's clear she wants commercially successful music, which is a good thing. An artist being motivated doesn't mean they're going to get desperate.
4 was very, very commercial. The album lacked any innovation (the closest she got was dub-step, which had already happened months before) and played up to the HAC sound, which is where the album-buying power is really at. She even had her Irreplaceable 2.0, which would make it WBT 3.0, "Best Thing I Never Had." That album has left me so disillusioned. Of course she did some songs incredibly right, such as "1+1," "Start Over," "Countdown," etc., but it was such a misfire. It makes sense that she's taking her time with her next release and I'm very here to see what she comes up with.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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I thought she was filming a new music video? Come on Bey, this is getting tiring Just officially do something instead of all these snippets and leaks please
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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I think her next move is to finish the tour first. I am pretty sure she have already recorded the songs for the album, but I am sure she is still in the process to put everything together(doing music videos, choose singles etc). There is a lot of work in the process. And being a perfectionist will even delay the album. But she has never said anything about the album, so there is no delay actually.
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Originally posted by Eternium
The different versions weren't just different takes, but full versions. I'm by no means bashing Beyoncé, but it's clear she wants commercially successful music, which is a good thing. An artist being motivated doesn't mean they're going to get desperate.
4 was very, very commercial. The album lacked any innovation (the closest she got was dub-step, which had already happened months before) and played up to the HAC sound, which is where the album-buying power is really at. She even had her Irreplaceable 2.0, which would make it WBT 3.0, "Best Thing I Never Had." That album has left me so disillusioned. Of course she did some songs incredibly right, such as "1+1," "Start Over," "Countdown," etc., but it was such a misfire. It makes sense that she's taking her time with her next release and I'm very here to see what she comes up with.
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Those different full versions weren't that dramatically different than each other, that was what I was trying to say. They wouldn't be different takes leaked, they'd be different drafts of the final song.
And I disagree that 4 was "very, very commericial". I agree that as a mainstream artist, Beyonce likely won't ever veer to far away from what is considered commercial music (hooks, verses, catchy lyrics, etc.) but 4 did have innovation. End of Time is something that sounds like nothing any other popstar as created, and Run the World (although a Major Lazer sample) is very unique. Countdown is a completely new type of song with so many different musical elements wrapped into it. I also wouldn't consider the video intro to RTW to be dubstep but that's another conversation. I do agree though that BTINH is the most commercial song on the album (and I actually hate that song). However it is not a We Belong Together 3.0 because that would suggest Irreplaceable sounds like that song. Is that what you're saying? I find no similarities between it, although I do think BTINH is one of many Irreplaceable copies.
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Originally posted by LMFAO
I think her next move is to finish the tour first. I am pretty sure she have already recorded the songs for the album, but I am sure she is still in the process to put everything together(doing music videos, choose singles etc). There is a lot of work in the process. And being a perfectionist will even delay the album. But she has never said anything about the album, so there is no delay actually.
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Exactly.
She's only said a new album could be out as early as April. Everything else was implied. I'm glad she never set a date and then had to push it back. I know we're in the dark but we also can't just assume something is true and then get mad when it turns out to be not true.
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I think she wants fall release as Sasha Fierce.Perhaps and hopefully,the single is coming next month!
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Originally posted by swissman
Exactly.
She's only said a new album could be out as early as April. Everything else was implied. I'm glad she never set a date and then had to push it back. I know we're in the dark but we also can't just assume something is true and then get mad when it turns out to be not true.
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I am happy that she didnt set a date as well, because either she would rush everything(not so good music) or delay it(which would not be good for her reputation).
She didnt set a date in the first place, so we can only blame ourselves for expecting an album when she didnt even announce anything about the album.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by LMFAO
I am happy that she didnt set a date as well, because either she would rush everything(not so good music) or delay it(which would not be good for her reputation).
She didnt set a date in the first place, so we can only blame ourselves for expecting an album when she didnt even announce anything about the album.
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Well we can also blame all the people she's worked with who spilt false tea, but maybe they did think it was true in the first place.
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Originally posted by Eternium
The different versions weren't just different takes, but full versions. I'm by no means bashing Beyoncé, but it's clear she wants commercially successful music, which is a good thing. An artist being motivated doesn't mean they're going to get desperate.
4 was very, very commercial. The album lacked any innovation (the closest she got was dub-step, which had already happened months before) and played up to the HAC sound, which is where the album-buying power is really at. She even had her Irreplaceable 2.0, which would make it WBT 3.0, "Best Thing I Never Had." That album has left me so disillusioned. Of course she did some songs incredibly right, such as "1+1," "Start Over," "Countdown," etc., but it was such a misfire. It makes sense that she's taking her time with her next release and I'm very here to see what she comes up with.
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Bur the album didn't have a tiny bit of dubstep, not even an influence of it
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Originally posted by swissman
Those different full versions weren't that dramatically different than each other, that was what I was trying to say. They wouldn't be different takes leaked, they'd be different drafts of the final song.
And I disagree that 4 was "very, very commericial". I agree that as a mainstream artist, Beyonce likely won't ever veer to far away from what is considered commercial music (hooks, verses, catchy lyrics, etc.) but 4 did have innovation. End of Time is something that sounds like nothing any other popstar as created, and Run the World (although a Major Lazer sample) is very unique. Countdown is a completely new type of song with so many different musical elements wrapped into it. I also wouldn't consider the video intro to RTW to be dubstep but that's another conversation. I do agree though that BTINH is the most commercial song on the album (and I actually hate that song). However it is not a We Belong Together 3.0 because that would suggest Irreplaceable sounds like that song. Is that what you're saying? I find no similarities between it, although I do think BTINH is one of many Irreplaceable copies.
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Right. She's definitely looking for the most commercial/quality version of the song, which is a great thing. I'd be here for her scrapping it, though, and just releasing a "Fantasy"-type song. If R&B is really making a comeback, it just feels wrong for Beyoncé to open her era with a song like "Grown Woman," especially since she's the biggest name in R&B since Mariah.
I'd love to take this discussion else where so we don't get warning points for going off-topic, but yes I do believe "We Belong Together" had a huge amount of influence on "Irreplaceable" and "Best Thing I Never Had." "End of Time" has that painfully 90s chorus, so I've never seen the appeal to that song.
Regardless of how we differ on feelings to 4, I agree with you that Bey is looking for the best way to approach this era and that excites me. She even went and basically rejected huge promotional campaigns to focus on making the material the best she could, so I'm expecting her to come back really hard.
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Originally posted by swissman
Well we can also blame all the people she's worked with who spilt false tea, but maybe they did think it was true in the first place.
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I wonder why. Beyonces team maybe lied to them(The Dream, Neyo) because they have a history of opening their mouths when they shouldnt.
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Originally posted by swissman
Well we can also blame all the people she's worked with who spilt false tea, but maybe they did think it was true in the first place.
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The Dream & Ne-Yo
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Originally posted by LMFAO
I wonder why. Beyonces team maybe lied to them(the dream, Neyo) because they have a history of open their mouth when they shouldnt.
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And they clearly opened their mouth yet again
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I really don't know, I guess she will pull an Kanye and release a single without any type of promo because she had so many chances. But I guess if the music is good she will have one of her biggest eras yet .
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Eternium
Right. She's definitely looking for the most commercial/quality version of the song, which is a great thing. I'd be here for her scrapping it, though, and just releasing a "Fantasy"-type song. If R&B is really making a comeback, it just feels wrong for Beyoncé to open her era with a song like "Grown Woman," especially since she's the biggest name in R&B since Mariah.
I'd love to take this discussion else where so we don't get warning points for going off-topic, but yes I do believe "We Belong Together" had a huge amount of influence on "Irreplaceable" and "Best Thing I Never Had." "End of Time" has that painfully 90s chorus, so I've never seen the appeal to that song.
Regardless of how we differ on feelings to 4, I agree with you that Bey is looking for the best way to approach this era and that excites me. She even went and basically rejected huge promotional campaigns to focus on making the material the best she could, so I'm expecting her to come back really hard.
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I think it's a stretch to assume they are making more versions to look for the most commercial one, rather than just the best one they can make.
And I can actually see how WBT could influence Irreplaceable in that as a hugely popular mid-tempo R&B song, it would inspire others to make those songs as well, but a lot of those types of songs were coming out at the time (Be Without You by Mary J. Blige is an example) and as it was originally written for Ne-Yo himself and the song content is very different I don't see it as a WBT 2.0. It's not as clear an influence as Irreplaceable was to Take a Bow, for instance.
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Originally posted by TSGH
So long as she doesn't resort to playing casinos in Vegas and singing silly theme songs to movie adaptations of old 80s cartoons after getting fired from a judging gig on a reality tv show, I'm good.
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You could've come up with something more creative but well...
Anyway, she shot a video for her first single, didn't she? I guess an october release for the single and album out in november/december
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