[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by atrlster

It didnt sell that well though. At the time, everyone considered her GH to be a flop. How do you go from having Diamond albums to only having your GH only go Platinum. And this was in 2004 when the sales climate was still good

And considering they had to wait 10 years for the GH instead of only 5 for Britney, I'd say people definitely wanted that re-experience or whatever you're talking about

It sold around the same amount as eminems GH album and any other GH album released around that time. Don't even try it lol. It's current sales are good, same can't be said about keeps getting better.

And obviously they didnt feel like re-experiencing her music, hence why X's GH album flopped.

[rihannabiggestfan]

lol.

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I unfortunately think so though

[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by atrlster

Your logic is so terrible

When you have successful singles, album sales go up.
If the single isn't that successful, the album sales tend to be lower.
This single didn't do that well, yet its album sales performed as if KGB was big

Although maybe its hard for you to understand that, since 3 was a big hit, but the album sales of that GH were still low

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My logic is terrible, yet here you are comparing a second GH album to a first GH album
I hope you realize how stupid that is.

Also Keeps getting better was still a top 10 hit. The album sales were terrible, even madonnas 3rd GH album celebration (with no hits) performed better.

[atrlster]

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

It sold around the same amount as eminems GH album and any other GH album released around that time. Don't even try it lol. It's current sales are good, same can't be said about keeps getting better.

And obviously they didnt feel like re-experiencing her music, hence why X's GH album flopped.

Again, Christina's GH in 08 only one had single and went Gold. Who else did that? Not a flop by any means.

The ignorance Eminem's Greatest Hits is 3x Platinum.
And it actually came out a year later too
So yeah, Britney's GH was a huge flop for that time period

[Nicole]

What OriginalQueen is saying is that you can't dismiss single sales and airplay because not having those on your side is why you're done. You can't say "well her album didn't sell because she had not hits!"

[atrlster]

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

My logic is terrible, yet here you are comparing a second GH album to a first GH album
I hope you realize how stupid that is.

Also Keeps getting better was still a top 10 hit. The album sales were terrible, even madonnas 3rd GH album celebration (with no hits) performed better.

The only thing stupid is you making excuses for why that second GH sold so low. Again, I acknowledged that it was not going to sell as well as the first GH. But to sell that low with a huge hit single? Nobody expected that second GH to sell that low. Don't tell me you predicted it would sell that amount

And Celebration has sold less than Keeps Getting Better, so you're wrong on that count.
Celebration has outsold The Singles Collection which had a hit though. And like you said Celebration, had no hits

[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by Nicole

What OriginalQueen is saying is that you can't dismiss single sales and airplay because not having those on your side is why you're done. You can't say "well her album didn't sell because she had not hits!"

Exactly!

[Mastamaind]

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

My point exactly.
Hence why we can't compare the singles collection to keeps getting better.

Then why are they counting it as a flop studio album? 'Burlesque' was a soundtrack. Crossroads had a soundtrack?

Christina's only real flops are 'Bionic' and 'Lotus' and let's be real, they're decent pop albums for the market. They were promoted badly. 'Your Body' was slowed down. 'Let There Be Love' should have been the lead single. Christina isn't even that fat, with a couple of months on the gym she could have recovered her sexy body. The problem is that Christina after 'Stripped' lost a lot of focus. She has to improve a lot her quality control and singing. Quality control to be able to select good songs and direct a good production and singing lessons to unveil the potential of her strong voice. And some improvement of her image, it's not such a sin to want to look the best.

If she really put her mind to it, was really focused and was able to work hard on her weak points she could totally have a huge hit album.

[devotedtokesha]

Yes. She's done.

[Arcane_Sky]

Nope. She's a bionic lady, she'll rise and bloom like a lotus.

[Icannot]

Originally posted by Big Hoops

All Good Things....

You should know.

She is done.

[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by atrlster

Again, Christina's GH in 08 only one had single and went Gold. Who else did that? Not a flop by any means.

The ignorance Eminem's Greatest Hits is 3x Platinum.
And it actually came out a year later too
So yeah, Britney's GH was a huge flop for that time period

So basically both her album and single flopped?
You can try to come up with as many excuses as you'd like but fact still remains, the GH album flopped. Also Keeps getting better was a radio-friendly hit and X actually took time to promote it, yet the single performed badly. This is even more indication that her career is indeed "done". You know you're screwed when you can't even be a singles artist anymore.

And I was talking about the WW sales, so no it wasn't a flop.
Keep trying

[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by atrlster

The only thing stupid is you making excuses for why that second GH sold so low. Again, I acknowledged that it was not going to sell as well as the first GH. But to sell that low with a huge hit single? Nobody expected that second GH to sell that low. Don't tell me you predicted it would sell that amount

And Celebration has sold less than Keeps Getting Better, so you're wrong on that count.
Celebration has outsold The Singles Collection which had a hit though. And like you said Celebration, had no hits

I never had any high expectations for her 2nd GH album.
But hey at least she got a hit single from it.
X flopped in both the singles and albums department.

And again I was talking about WW sales. Pretty sure that Celebration outsold keeps getting "better".

Anyways it's not like I'm trying to deny that the singles collection was a flop. I'm well aware of its atrocious sales. Thank god that britneys still able to get solo hits though.
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[atrlster]

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

So basically both her album and single flopped?
You can try to come up with as many excuses as you'd like but fact still remains, the GH album flopped. Also Keeps getting better was a radio-friendly hit and X actually took time to promote it, yet the single performed badly. This is even more indication that her career is indeed "done". You know you're screwed when you can't even be a singles artist anymore.

And I was talking about the WW sales, so no it wasn't a flop.
Keep trying

Again, you haven't shown any proof that the GH was a flop. It went Gold. For 2008 standards, it did well. You have yet to show any proof of it not doing well.

But I've shown you how Britney's GH have flopped to their time period

MP: Platinum
Eminem's GH: 3x Platinum

Singles Collection: 200K or something
Celebration: About 350K

And you want to say Singles Collection is Britney's 2nd GH so it wont sell as well.
Yet it had a hit single.
And it went up against Madonna's 3RD GH without a hit and still couldn't outsell it

And I don't think the single was that radio friendly. It's not immediately melodic imo, and it was a bit too electronic for that time period. Dance music was about to break out, but that period was still very urban. And every dance song at the time had rhythmic influences. That didn't

And no, you weren't talking WW sales. We have been talking about its USA stats this whole time! How pathetic is it to suddenly cling to WW figures because you have nothing else

[atrlster]

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

I never had any high expectations for her 2nd GH album.
But hey at least she got a hit single from it.
X flopped in both the singles and albums department.

And again I was talking about WW sales. Pretty sure that Celebration outsold keeps getting "better".

Anyways it's not like I'm trying to deny that the singles collection was a flop. I'm well aware of its atrocious sales. Thank god that britneys still able to get solo hits though.
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Except you were denying it But glad you were able to admit it since the excuses ran out

[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by atrlster

Again, you haven't shown any proof that the GH was a flop. It went Gold. For 2008 standards, it did well. You have yet to show any proof of it not doing well.

But I've shown you how Britney's GH have flopped to their time period

MP: Platinum
Eminem's GH: 3x Platinum

Singles Collection: 200K or something
Celebration: About 350K

And you want to say Singles Collection is Britney's 2nd GH so it wont sell as well.
Yet it had a hit single.
And it went up against Madonna's 3RD GH without a hit and still couldn't outsell it

And I don't think the single was that radio friendly. It's not immediately melodic imo, and it was a bit too electronic for that time period. Dance music was about to break out, but that period was still very urban. And every dance song at the time had rhythmic influences. That didn't

And no, you weren't talking WW sales. We have been talking about its USA stats this whole time! How pathetic is it to suddenly cling to WW figures because you have nothing else

Scanning gold for a first GH album is not considered a success sweetie.
The sales are terrible.

And you didn't show anything?
We are talking about the current sales.
Aren't you always the one who keeps telling the army to stop living the the past.
Well then take your own advice. Britney's current sales for the GH album makes it successful.
That's the end of it. As for the singles collection well I'm aware that it flopped tremendously - my point was that you can't compare it to keeps getting better because its a second GH album.

Keeps getting better was a catchy song IMO, but all of this is pretty much irrelevant - seeing as the song underperformed which makes the whole situation even worse. She wasn't even able to get a hit. I guess she should have gone with a less electro sounding hit

Lmfao no sweetie I've been talking about WW sales this entire time. I always do in arguments like these. The "total" sales are what matter.

[OriginalQueen]

Originally posted by atrlster

Except you were denying it But glad you were able to admit it since the excuses ran out

Where exactly did I say that the singles collection wasnt a flop?
Stop putting words in my mouth.

[atrlster]

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

Scanning gold for a first GH album is not considered a success sweetie.
The sales are terrible.

And you didn't show anything?
We are talking about the current sales.
Aren't you always the one who keeps telling the army to stop living the the past.
Well then take your own advice. Britney's current sales for the GH album makes it successful.
That's the end of it. As for the singles collection well I'm aware that it flopped tremendously - my point was that you can't compare it to keeps getting better because its a second GH album.

Keeps getting better was a catchy song IMO, but all of this is pretty much irrelevant - seeing as the song underperformed which makes the whole situation even worse. She wasn't even able to get a hit. I guess she should have gone with a less electro sounding hit

Lmfao no sweetie I've been talking about WW sales this entire time. I always do in arguments like these. The "total" sales are what matter.

Since when did GHs have to be platinum to be considered the lowest threshold for success? Get with the program "sweetie". The standards have changed. It's not about your first or second GH, but about the time period. You do realize that platinum now means more than it did in 2004 right? lol

I showed how Britney's GHs didnt sell as well as you thought they did for their time period. And how KGB did decently well for its period. Do you even know how many other GHs it did better than? If you really think KGB did so badly, what do you consider those other GHs?

And what does the Army living in the past have to do with this? Their inability to move forward is irrelevant to this discussion

And your WW argument might fly, if not for the fact that this entire discussions stems from stuff you responded to concerning USA stats

Originally posted by ThaMusicLover

Keeps Gettin' Better sold more in the U.S than the last Britney's compilation, and Burlesque was gold with 640,000 copies sold, and without a single and promotion.

Originally posted by atrlster

Pinks GH had two HUGE hits and went platinum

First of all Christina's GH only had one moderate hit, was exclusive to only one retailer -Target, and was still able to go Gold. I think says a lot

Originally posted by OriginalQueen

Where exactly did I say that the singles collection wasnt a flop?
Stop putting words in my mouth.

Look back on the last page if you want to relive your excuses

[Big Hoops]

Originally posted by Icannot

You should know.

She is done.

[PopBoi]

If the voice and a generic lead single didn't help her get on radio, nothing will. She's done.