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Poll: Is "Applause" only being dragged because it's Gaga?
View Poll Results: Is the stan world overreacting?
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Of course - a #6 debut would not be dragged at all if this were Katy, Rihanna, etc.
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Yes, but people are only living this up b/c monsters like to brag on Gaga (though all fans do this).
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Not at all. #6 in week one is terrible, shameful, and career-ending. Lady Gaga is a flop.
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what did you expect?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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yes!
Britney had Slave 4 U which peaked at #29 and Madonna had Hung Up which peaked at #7 and nobody says nothing
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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It's not a good song and by Gaga standards, it's underperforming pretty badly ATM. I won't call it a flop just yet though
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Member Since: 6/25/2012
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Yes and No
This is an underperformance for her level of star power and the song is mediocre
on the other had its being dragged harder because it is her
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Originally posted by Rama
Yes. Nothing to be suprised when you are world's biggest/most powerful musician.
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Too bad Rihanna has snatched her crown
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I guess she hasn't met expectations since The Fame Monster so that's why they call her a "flop" when in reality, she's always been far from being one.
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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It's the monsters' faults.
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Member Since: 1/2/2012
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
It's also being dragged because all of the Monsters had out of this world predictions for its first week and overall slayage, none of which has happened and that's always going to make you fresh meat on this site, no matter who the artist is.
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All of this.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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The reason she's getting dragged is because that the monsters got way too cocky and so did Lady gaga so i guess it's karma.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by marcella
well, you monsters started it all with 'this gonna be number 1 for 20 weeks' or 'gaga will be back so strong' and 'she will save pop music'
personally, for a lady gaga lead single i think the song is extremely weak. you can say about her what you want but her last lead singles used to be monsters...
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don't judge a whole fan-base by a few delusional individuals who rushed into judgement too soon
I'm not going to judge the Xtina fans for thinking that lotus was going to redeem Bionic or the ke$ha fans when They thought Warrior was going to be a Major smash
I hope you got the metaphor
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It's because the Monsters hyped it to the high heavens and ripped anyone who doubted her in the beginning. Once the shitshow began, most people jumped on the bandwagon, including the Monsters themselves.
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It's because of the LM. It's not the haters who were almost sure she could pull of 1+ million debut week and destroy Katy.
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It's being dragged for two reasons.
1. It's genuinely a bad song, let alone a lead single choice.
2. In the weeks prior to Applause being released, the little Monsters were all saying things like
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omg!!111! This will END Kety!!@#!#!
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YASS!#$ ANTHERM of our GENERATION, APPLAUSE WILL BREAK ITUNES
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Applause will BREAK first weeks records !)#
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So not only did Gaga release a bad song, she also didn't live up to the expectations of her fanbase, or any fanbase for that matter. The other fanbases are just giving the monsters what they've been giving us for years.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
Yes and No
This is an underperformance for her level of star power and the song is mediocre
on the other had its being dragged harder because it is her
To bad Rihanna has snatched her crown
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Rihanna has to snatch her Tour Gross Level + Awards
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
Too bad Rihanna has snatched her crown
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Forbes ranks Gaga as the most powerful musician.
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Member Since: 9/26/2011
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Yes mostly. But there are artists who are expected to do well on opening week. If it would have been first single for Taylor with same result, there also would have been lot of dragging. Same for Adele, when Skyfall was released and didn't sell tons, I remember threads like "Is Adele over?" etc.
Looking on all aspects Applause underperformed, for Gaga single.
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No, but that is the biggest reason. People are also dragging the song because it's her worst lead single and didn't debut at #1 with 1M+ sales.
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Originally posted by Cherry
#3 sales debut with 218,000 first week - one of the highest first week sales of 2013 - and a top ten start on the Hot 100, with stability and longevity looking likely due to large streaming points from the music video and several things yet to come - an upcoming VMA performance, an upcoming iTunes performance that will be streamed worldwide, a major ad campaign that will appear on 33,000 movie screens nationwide beginning next week, and who knows what other tricks Gaga has up her sleeve.
Now, I don't know about you, but this seems like a good start to me... even if it may not have been as colossal as a certain, unnamed peer of Gaga's.
So is "Applause" being dragged just so that detractors can have something, even the littlest thing, to use against the most powerful musician in the world, or is its performance truly the worst thing that could happen to her? Discuss. And don't be ashamed to answer honestly - the poll is anonymous.
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Where has this "Cherry" user been all my life??
And, to answer the question, yes. The other stanbases are doing the most because they know their faves have zero integrity, songwriting ability, versatility, critical acclaim, or global appeal when compared to the queen of pop. It's pathetic and everybody can see right through it and they should just stop.
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Member Since: 11/20/2010
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No it's you all little monsters saying that she's the Queen a rivolutionar and all that stuff so an underwhelming single from her most anticipated album it's pretty bad
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Yup, because of the way she talks about her music. "Art this, Pop that, reverse Warholian this, pop culture that." You would expect her to deliver a song that isn't so basic and painful to listen to.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Bad single in my opinion.
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