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Discussion: Taylor is a 'basic white girl'
Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
I get that. But for how long ? Again, as a jew, some of my very recent ancestors were sent to freaking Auschwitz, yet I don't think it gives me the right to a constant victim status. I would have the right to complain if jews were significantly worse off today than other people and thankfully that's not the case, and in my mind what gives blacks the right to complain is not that Jefferson owned slaves 220 years ago or that someone on the internet says 'basic black girl' but precisely their average financial situation which is worse than other race, the way their treated by the police, their lack of presence in prestigiious educational institutions etc.
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And if you can't see the connection between Jefferson owning black bodies 220 years ago and the prison industrial complex, or the economic exploitation of blacks now, I'm going to need you to go do some more research. Thats all.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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i will say that "black people cry more tears than the pacific ocean" is...definitely pretty bad and messed up though ._. people are such a mess with these stereotypes and i can't believe they really feel justified
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
Posts: 52,363
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Originally posted by Damien M
Cry all you want about black people. No one gives a ****.
The girl remains a dumb, trashy redneck with no discernible talent. Garbage artist, garbage stans.
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the shitstorm and faux-racist cries this comment will cause
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Can we just have a racism discussion thread or something so this kind of thread isn't being made once a week? ![toofunny2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/toofunny2_zpsb54f2d2d.gif)
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Member Since: 11/29/2010
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
Stop. Your second sentence is ripe with ignorance and racism. ![Ace Reject](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/c74c86fd.gif)
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It was not meant as an insult. Just humorous remark. ![@michael.](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/micheal_zps45ccf519.gif) So touchy.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Fact is, based off of the sociology definion of racism, no one on atrl can be racist becaus no one here has real power, except maye mods.
There is no real racism in pointin out Beyonce is black or Lucy Liu is yellow, because no one here has the power to subjugate them to an oppressive system
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
Posts: 20,242
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Originally posted by Scotty
Can we just have a racism discussion thread or something so this kind of thread isn't being made once a week? ![toofunny2](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/toofunny2_zpsb54f2d2d.gif)
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It would be closed like this one will be soon.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 7,253
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Originally posted by I Am Music
A stupid insult is not the same as when people try to shut down the opinions of minorites because they dont want to hear them. Which btw has a ugly history that is ingrained in peoples heads even other blacks.
I will say that the insult needs to go
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Isn't that what each side is trying to do here though? Shut the other one down? That's how I'm reading it anyway. I'm not. I'm trying to say two wrongs don't make a right and it's that simple, but people over complicating ****
All kind of racial insults need to go for sure
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Originally posted by Javan
You lack perspective. Oppressed and marginalized groups may feel the need to be passionate, aggressive and yes even patronizing. It's mostly encouraged. You're argument is striking similar to those MRA that cry about Whoopi making that comment about her cutting her husbands penis off, claiming it to be misandry. It's unnecessary. Give it up.
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How do I lack perspective? You don't even know who I am to say such an assumption
No, I won't give anything up.
I have no idea what that reference is.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
Posts: 28,853
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Originally posted by muddysquirrel
They are basic black girls? Because they are all doing this oversexaualized routine that is considered cool in urban culture.
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Are you racist? Because not you attempting to call the Urban community oversexualized when the same can be said for Pop. It's not some exclusive fad only people of color utilize.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
Posts: 6,744
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
It's kind of true though. I'll give you that whites are not far behind, probably the Atlantic...
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No, it's not true at all. No tears or victimization to be had. Just facts and validity regarding what it means to be subjected to racism.
But you have told me you are white, and it seems like you are another person just trying to downplay racism to benefit off of your own advantages.
So you are either:
a) doing what I just said above
b) actually stupid and have no perspective at all
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
Posts: 7,072
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Fact is, based off of the sociology definion of racism, no one on atrl can be racist becaus no one here has real power, except maye mods.
There is no real racism in pointin out Beyonce is black or Lucy Liu is yellow, because no one here has the power to subjugate them to an oppressive system
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Member Since: 2/20/2012
Posts: 24,225
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Fact is, based off of the sociology definion of racism, no one on atrl can be racist becaus no one here has real power, except maye mods.
There is no real racism in pointin out Beyonce is black or Lucy Liu is yellow, because no one here has the power to subjugate them to an oppressive system
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![ahh](images/smilies/images/smilies/ahh.gif)
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Member Since: 5/13/2011
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She's more of a basic off-white girl.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
Posts: 3,221
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Originally posted by accelgors
no because most complaints of cultural appropriation made on this forum are totally stupid. it has nothing to do with thinking critically and a lot more to do with not being so high on your own pretentious entry level sociology cloud that you lose all sense of reality
these things exist and can be problems but this forum is filled with people that have just read about racism and oppression and are now ready and excited to call out literally everything as racism, and that's why they get rejected so harshly
there's some pretty racist people on here but i get the feeling that you're talking about people that are perfectly innocent and just not pretentious
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Quick question. Why are white supremacist apologists always so quick to devalue sociology as a discipline? Anytime someone produces a perspective that is seen as sociological they are automatically dismissed as if their comments have no merit. Just because it has you pressed doesn't mean that the person who said it just looked up "Institutional racism" on Wikipedia. ![skull](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/faces/skull_zpsksni5fmm.gif)
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
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chilluminati clocking ya'll like that tho
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by YouDaIcon
And if you can't see the connection between Jefferson owning black bodies 220 years ago and the prison industrial complex, or the economic exploitation of blacks than I'm going to need you to go do some more research. Thats all.
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Well there is a link obviously but sadly what has been done cannot be undone so people should focus on the present. However, I don't think there's a link between that and a 'basic black girl' comment, for example.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
Posts: 19,718
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
I get that. But for how long ? Again, as a jew, some of my very recent ancestors were sent to freaking Auschwitz, yet I don't think it gives me the right to a constant victim status. I would have the right to complain if jews were significantly worse off today than other people and thankfully that's not the case, and in my mind what gives blacks the right to complain is not that Jefferson owned slaves 220 years ago or that someone on the internet says 'basic black girl' but precisely their average financial situation which is worse than other race, the way their treated by the police, their lack of presence in prestigiious educational institutions etc.
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How about until reparations are paid out? Does that seem fair? Let's be real, Jews got a whole damn country out of the ordeal. Blacks got more racism. Can you believe it was only 50 years ago that blacks couldn't vote? That's just one generation off.
Can you see why they would still be a bIT upset? The wounds are fresh.
And they've been supplemented with salt.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 7,253
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
No it actually isn't. No one defending calling Taylor a "basic white girl" is saying white = basic. They are saying she is a "basic white girl". There are plenty of non-basic white people, it's not a generalization or degrading. Saying "black peoples tears could fill up the Pacific Ocean" over how much they complain is a generalization and degrading.
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If white doesn't equal basic, then why include white in there to begin with? Why not simply say, "she is basic"?
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Fact is, based off of the sociology definion of racism, no one on atrl can be racist becaus no one here has real power, except maye mods.
There is no real racism in pointin out Beyonce is black or Lucy Liu is yellow, because no one here has the power to subjugate them to an oppressive system
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fff That's not how it works. They are inherently subjugated to an oppressive system by simply existing in the skin that they do. On the premise of sociology, racism has a systematic basis not personal or individual one.
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Member Since: 3/4/2014
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No one in American culture/race showdown threads seems to mention any indigenous races of the North American continent
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