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Poll: Opinion of the USA
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View Poll Results: How does your nation view the United States?
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Positively
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39.80% |
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Neutrally
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55 |
27.36% |
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66 |
32.84% |
Member Since: 2/17/2012
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I've never had anybody scoff at me or anything in Europe because I'm American. I've had people be nice to me and my family cause we're American though.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 18,282
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Originally posted by (Cole)
I disagree. I think that patriotism is generally blind support of the country you live in, and blind support of anything is usually not the best. It leaves room for a lot of ignorance.
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That's not what the word patriotism means.
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Member Since: 2/15/2010
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Originally posted by Mr. Know It All
"Top 10 countries that has best education system."
Grammar? Or translator error?
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.com sis. 
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
Posts: 21,274
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Okay, well I'm too lazy to read through 12 pages to find out the center of this debate, so I'll just say:
I'm an American, born and raised, and I really love this country. Many people here are obviously... not good, but the ideas and morals the nation is founded on are extremely solid, and I believe afford everyone the basic necessities and opportunities necessary to succeed. In theory. I'm also grateful to live in a community where I'm given the above necessities and opportunities.
When I go outside the country, I've noticed that a lot of people in other areas tend to be biased against Americans — not to the extent of the common stereotype, but still noticeable enough to be annoying, or sometimes hurtful. Myself being the flawless human being that I am, they always warm up to me once I introduce myself and make an effort to reflect positively on my society, but we generally just tell people that we're from Canada (  ), and they react in a more positive way.
Oh, and education, resources, literacy, tolerance, and all that **** are generally very good here, at least where I live. Yay us.
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Member Since: 1/11/2012
Posts: 14,421
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Originally posted by SpecialK
LOL. Get your ass out and widen your perspective. You will soon realise how America is in no way a microcosm of the world. As for your point on how knowing who the President of Canada will impact your life, it's called general knowledge. Without ANY knowledge of the world around you, it will be impossible for you to identify with and strike conversation with citizens outside of the United States.
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 So basically, I just need to know about Canada so that if I happen to go to Canada, I can strike up a conversation about their "president"?  I have general knowledge, I know were the most important countries are on the map, etc. But that information doesn't help me in my daily life. Like at all.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
Posts: 12,811
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This is a pretty nice convo for the most part tbh.
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Member Since: 8/17/2010
Posts: 3,155
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Originally posted by Kats
Which would mean you believe in most cases it is blind support, which simply isnt true on any level.
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You're really good with hyperbole. 
And yes, I do think that nationalism is very often blind support. But it's not like I have anything to back that up with other than anecdotal evidence, so it's nothing more than an opinion. Like many other posts in this thread, including yours.
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
Posts: 1,698
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Okay, well I'm too lazy to read through 12 pages to find out the center of this debate, so I'll just say:
I'm an American, born and raised, and I really love this country. Many people here are obviously... not good, but the ideas and morals the nation is founded on are extremely solid, and I believe afford everyone the basic necessities and opportunities necessary to succeed. In theory. I'm also grateful to live in a community where I'm given the above necessities and opportunities.
When I go outside the country, I've noticed that a lot of people in other areas tend to be biased against Americans — not to the extent of the common stereotype, but still noticeable enough to be annoying, or sometimes hurtful. Myself being the flawless human being that I am, they always warm up to me once I introduce myself and make an effort to reflect positively on my society, but we generally just tell people that we're from Canada ( ), and they react in a more positive way.
Oh, and education, resources, literacy, tolerance, and all that **** are generally very good here, at least where I live. Yay us. |
That's perfectly on topic (well, anything would be on topic at this point) and wonderfully insightful. Thank you. 
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Member Since: 1/11/2012
Posts: 14,421
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Maybe I was being ambiguous when I said Oreos. It wasnt a pack of Oreos. It was literally like 2 or 3 Oreo cookies from her hand like she was feeding a monkey in a ****ing zoo. That **** is disrespectful.
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Okay, well then I can see why you'd be offended. I can't relate, but I sympathize. It's unfortunate that you've had that kind of encounter and that it's affected your views of me as an American.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 18,282
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Originally posted by madonnas
Not too much on American education, sis. America is generally considered to have basically the best higher education.
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We do have higher college dropouts rates than most countries. Although, that is arguably because of the amount students we send to college, rather than the quality of the education.
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
Posts: 41,067
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Myself being the flawless human being that I am, they always warm up to me once I introduce myself and make an effort to reflect positively on my society, but we generally just tell people that we're from Canada ( ), and they react in a more positive way. |
I can't tell if you're being serious or not but maybe part of the problem is Americans who actually are nice and educated and openminded say they're from someplace else so people continue to have a negative view on Americans because they don't think they've met any good ones (when they actually have and they just weren't aware of it).
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Member Since: 5/21/2009
Posts: 11,151
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When Americans literally are dragging their own country, knowing absolutely NOTHING about the correlation between economic downfall, unemployment with international affair, you know it's time to stop wasting your time arguing. 
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
Posts: 1,698
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
This is a pretty nice convo for the most part tbh.
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I've been enjoying it, too. Interesting and helpful.
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Member Since: 11/7/2011
Posts: 2,338
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Originally posted by ethan
So basically, I just need to know about Canada so that if I happen to go to Canada, I can strike up a conversation about their "president"? I have general knowledge, I know were the most important countries are on the map, etc. But that information doesn't help me in my daily life. Like at all. |
Grammatical flaw + Arrogance there again. How insular can you be? I suppose you don't have any Canadian friends LIVING IN AMERICA.
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
Posts: 20,576
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Originally posted by Golden
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But where's your country in higher education. America has THE best colleges in the world.
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
Posts: 9,381
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Originally posted by Golden
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you as a person saying "I'm clearly more educated than you" is an arrogant thing to say.
also,
http://www.globalfirepower.com/
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Member Since: 8/20/2011
Posts: 12,590
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The US is based off of where you live.
Some areas are more patriotic than others (believe it or not). Some areas are more giving to the homeless than others. Some areas have better education than other. It all comes down to where you live. It is hard to generalize the country because you could live in the same state but the way you are brought up comes down to the street you live on.
For example you could say you live in NY the state. Most people generalize New York as growing up in a huge city which is not true. You could grow up in New York and live on a farm. City school educations differ from rural area education. Also your feelings socially would be different too.
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Member Since: 10/17/2011
Posts: 1,788
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Originally posted by NE.
When Americans literally are dragging their own country, knowing absolutely NOTHING about the correlation between economic downfall, unemployment with international affair, you know it's time to stop wasting your time arguing. |
"economic downfall" "unemployment"? Know nothing?
Quick, what is the U6 rate?
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Member Since: 10/7/2011
Posts: 20,627
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Originally posted by (Cole)
You're really good with hyperbole.
And yes, I do think that nationalism is very often blind support. But it's not like I have anything to back that up with other than anecdotal evidence, so it's nothing more than an opinion. Like many other posts in this thread, including yours. |
No, you're just not good with claiming what you just posted.
Except I live here, I see the headlines, and patriotism in America for the most part has a lot to do with our freedoms, which clearly isn't based on blind support like you seem to think but knowledge and gratitude of our national laws.
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
Posts: 21,274
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Originally posted by Guernica
I can't tell if you're being serious or not but maybe part of the problem is Americans who actually are nice and educated and openminded say they're from someplace else so people continue to have a negative view on Americans because they don't think they've met any good ones (when they actually have and they just weren't aware of it).
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That's so true. 
Well when I say 'generally' I really mean about 10 or 15 times ever...
I know that doing that could prevent someone else in a different country from seeing what a nice, legitimate American behaves like, but it's also so much easier to tell a small lie and be treated well than to be completely honest and have people look down on you. It reflects on ignorance from both sides tbh.
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