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Poll: Is "Applause" only being dragged because it's Gaga?
View Poll Results: Is the stan world overreacting?
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Of course - a #6 debut would not be dragged at all if this were Katy, Rihanna, etc.
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Yes, but people are only living this up b/c monsters like to brag on Gaga (though all fans do this).
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Not at all. #6 in week one is terrible, shameful, and career-ending. Lady Gaga is a flop.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
Who cares if we over-hyped her. I mean especially not someone named Ke$ha's Chart. I mean, which chart? What numbers? Don't you do the same? "C'mon", you're not fooling anyone.
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The Shade
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by JC_Arrow
Well now they're only helping the monsters because they're actually giving them an idea how to react on such an occasion, in an instance when their fave flops. Watch the monsters drag harder than ever before when Gaga triumphs once again.
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True but I feel like that always goes on back and forth between fanbases. It's always online warfare between some. Not much you can do about it when some of the fans only use their fave as an avatar for their battles.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by lightstheyblindme
What I got from this is that Katy delivers low-calibur music so consistently that she never "underperforms" whereas Gaga has set the bar so high that even an amazing single isn't up to par with what people expect from her. Sounds about right.
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what???
Literally all Katy singles except for TOY and WUIV have gone 3x Plat I believe
That's by underperforming at all
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 23,368
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Originally posted by DimmiFenty
This.
But it will all come down to Album sales for GaGa.
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all hell will break looose if she doesnt debut higher than her previous album.
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Member Since: 6/30/2011
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I hate it because it genuinely sucks & I said this when people were still praising Applause & making threads like 'Did Applause overshadow Roar?' before it flopped.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by Allie
I hate it because it genuinely sucks. & I said it did when people were still praising Applause & making threads like 'Did Applause overshadow Roar?' the day she rush-released it.
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fffff at it being the exact opposite too
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Member Since: 8/1/2008
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Originally posted by Rolland
We all know the problem is that monsters didn't hesitate to say she was the biggest act of the decade, that she was the new queen of pop, that no one could ever match her success and well time has spoken. Deal with it.
So, she's going even harder this time with promotion. Good to know, you won't be able to say it's due to lack of promo when she fails, if she does of course. What is most likely going to happen though.
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And that's just the way it is
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
Who cares if we over-hyped her. I mean especially not someone named Ke$ha's Chart. I mean, which chart? What numbers? Don't you do the same? "C'mon", you're not fooling anyone.
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You know what's sad? The fact that "Die Young" did way better than "Applause" with less promo. But let's not go off-topic.
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Member Since: 7/13/2010
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Originally posted by JC_Arrow
all hell will break looose if she doesnt debut higher than her previous album.
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I dont think anyone expects her to debut with larger numbers than the BTW album. In the US or Worldwide......
I dont think any fans of pop girls should have those expectations.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Probably because most of the Monsters were so confident she was going to break records and sell +500K the first week, not to mention these same members were going at every artist the past year and a half.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by White Tigers
what???
Literally all Katy singles except for TOY and WUIV have gone 3x Plat I believe
That's by underperforming at all
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In my post I said she "never underperforms." I literally said the opposite of what you interpreted from my post
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
True but I feel like that always goes on back and forth between fanbases. It's always online warfare between some. Not much you can do about it when some of the fans only use their fave as an avatar for their battles.
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meh. it's all for the fun in it. right now, wars between fanbases is what makes the music industry interesting. and for Gaga always being the center of it all is VERY interesting indeed.
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Member Since: 5/16/2011
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
Who cares if we over-hyped her. I mean especially not someone named Ke$ha's Chart. I mean, which chart? What numbers? Don't you do the same? "C'mon", you're not fooling anyone.
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Gurl don't bring Ke$ha to this thread, nobody's talking about her, at least her lead single was #2 on billboard, not #6 and her fan base is weak, gaga's fan base is the strongest one, and she still flopping.
STAY ON TOPIC
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Originally posted by liberalmusiclover
Yes, tbh. No one would drag Rihanna, Beyonce, or Britney for a #6 debut. It's just that she tried to overshadow Katy and the song itself that is actually being dragged by the media though.
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this sentence is not true at all
Rihanna is a special case where she releases every year out of the blue and she almost always ha a song still charting when she releases...and her first week sales are dragged but she usually always climbs once the video and airplay effect kicks in
Beyonce was already dragged for her first week sales and so would Britney because you know how ATRL loves picking on her and calling her career dead and what not
The sad bitter truth is that literally everyone (even the Kats) were expecting Gaga to do much better...when she made the rush release announcement...ppl expected her to zoom to the top and smash WW RIGHT OUT THE GATE...but she didnt
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Member Since: 7/23/2012
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Applause is getting dragged because it isn't that great of a bop and the GP just isn't here for it. Just a simple situation known as an "Under-performing Lead Single".
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by lightstheyblindme
In my post I said she "never underperforms." I literally said the opposite of what you interpreted from my post
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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Originally posted by $ebert
Gurl don't bring Ke$ha to this thread, nobody's talking about her, at least her lead single was #2 on billboard, not #6 and her fan base is weak, gaga's fan base is the strongest one, and she still flopping.
STAY ON TOPIC
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Die Young didn't debut at #2 though; it had to climb to that position on the charts. It's possible that Applause will climb too.
Anyway as for the topic, yes, I think the song is being dragged because it's Gaga.
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Member Since: 11/29/2011
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idk why y'all keep feeding the frenzy tbh. anyone who expected gaga to debut with huge ass numbers after born this way left such a bad taste in the public's mouth is a fool. it's going to take time for her to regain her full audience, if she does it at all. so let the other fan bases have their moment, let them call her a flop, let them drag her. we all know she had her foot on everyones' fave's neck from 2009-2011, so of course they're going to jump on the opportunity to drag her since one of her singles didn't do as well as expected.
debuting in the top 10 is a good feat for any artist, even in gaga's case coming off the heels of a messy era and a break.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
Unfortunately, and what's worse is that because a lot of the monsters weren't expecting the draggings, they didn't know how to react. Making some look even more foolish!
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It's rather entertaining if you'd ask me. I mean who would think y'all would have an excuse for Ariana Grande debuting with more sales.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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yes
the VMA performance will make or break this song I think. she needs to tone down the theatrics maybe and make sure her dancing and singing is on point. gives her the advantage over katy whose award show performances tend to be.....
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by liberalmusiclover
Yes, tbh. No one would drag Rihanna, Beyonce, or Britney for a #6 debut. It's just that she tried to overshadow Katy and the song itself that is actually being dragged by the media though.
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Have you seen the threads made today?
It would be worse than if it happened with Katy.
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