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News: Shootings/explosion in Paris
Member Since: 8/10/2012
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RIP to all the victims. What a terrible tragedy.
Side note: The amount of ignorance and stupidity in here. Smh.
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Member Since: 3/8/2012
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Rest in peace to the victims. Also people need to stop generalizing Muslims because of the extremists. Muslims is a LARGE and DIVERSE group of individuals, and it is WRONG to judge them based on the actions of the few. Stop, and don't let your anger make your thinking so clouded. It is EASY to jump to saying things like "Muslims are like this and like that", but if you'd actually get to know many Muslim people you will find out that your expectations and preconceptions of them are WRONG. So please, lets not continue this cycle of hatred and educate ourselves. Once again horrible incident, and rest in peace to the victims.
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Originally posted by hooky
So the quote in the OP...
If this is legit, then why didn't we already know about it? I thought governments were supposed to be looking at this stuff?
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Like they're gonna look on a gaming website
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Jan
1. STOP accepting migrants (not refugees, because men in their 20s-30s are not refugees, moreover, most of them aren't even from Syria) instantly.
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I don't agree with everything said... but this is pretty accurate, at least to some extent. Whenever you look at war refugees in history, they're primarily women and children (sometimes married men or older men too) Men in 20s-30s are one of the least represented groups most of the time, since they're typically the ones fighting. And this tends to be continual across cultures too. That's not to say there's no 20-30 YO single male refugees, but them making up the majority of these refugees, honestly, makes no sense. Why would the refugee statistics inexplicably change in this one case? Considering Isis DID send people in through refugees, it legitimately makes more sense that these guys have ties to Isis (similar age to most of these extremists, most of these extremists do appear to be male, etc.) than that refugee statistics suddenly and bizarrely changed in this one instance.
I feel bad for any genuine refugees, but they legitimately should stop taking them in. It's a security risk at this point.
Can't speak to if they're Syrian or not.
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ATRL Contributor
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Originally posted by hooky
So the quote in the OP...
If this is legit, then why didn't we already know about it? I thought governments were supposed to be looking at this stuff?
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They are, unfortunately they cannot prevent every terrorist attack.
I posted this earlier but it was improper timing.
We need not give our intelligence networks a hard time, they are doing their best to protect us.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-33417300
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Alan Palomo
Like they're gonna look on a gaming website
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You'd think someone ON that site would report it to the Paris government though? Or the site itself. I mean, it's possible it's nothing, but these terrorism threats are usually taken seriously just on the off chance they're... you know, not nothing
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Originally posted by J a y
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I kinda put more blame on the site. Aren't they usually supposed to report stuff like this, even if it seems like a hoax?
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Originally posted by Butters
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Oh god
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
Are you ****ing serious right now? You have GOT to be a troll.
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Or just a major idiot. Like... who says that? lol
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by gagacasanova
Oh god
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The government needs to look into that site. What the **** else do they know?
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Originally posted by Repo
I kinda put more blame on the site. Aren't they usually supposed to report stuff like this, even if it seems like a hoax?
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I understand your point, but if someone had posted it on atrl, do you think any of us would have taken it seriously?
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Repo
You'd think someone ON that site would report it to the Paris government though? Or the site itself. I mean, it's possible it's nothing, but these terrorism threats are usually taken seriously just on the off chance they're... you know, not nothing
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No you're right, but I don't know any people who take gamers serious (besides gamers themselves). I'm on another site that's threatened the government and people involved in the politics and they haven't done anything.
It shows you how well they really pay attention. On another note: that website is freaking me the **** out.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by J a y
I understand your point, but if someone had posted it on atrl, do you think any of us would have taken it seriously?
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Fair point. Though I'd still like to think the site administration would maybe just pass some info along. Even if it was just "This was probably a hoax, but it's probably worth looking into just in case."
That said... I'm pretty sure if we see it now, we're probz gonna take it more seriously
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Originally posted by Alan Palomo
No you're right, but I don't know any people who take gamers serious (besides gamers themselves). I'm on another site that's threatened the government and people involved in the politics and they haven't done anything.
It shows you how well they really pay attention. On another note: that website is freaking me the **** out.
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Wait, really? If it's common, that would explain not passing it along. I've never been on a site where people regularly make terrorist threats/warnings, gov attacks, etc.
Not sure if it's fair to say they paid no attention. If they shrugged it off, sure. But the internet is HUGE. Let's be real, the FBI wouldn't look through ATRL for terrorism threats. There's no logical reason to unless they're tipped off
What else is it saying? Not reading through
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Member Since: 5/1/2011
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While this might sound unsensitive or that i'm trying to diminish the proportions of this tragedy but...
Tragedies like this happen almost every day in lots of places around the world, the media is acting like this is the end of the world just cause it happened in a first world country and one of the most important cities in the world...
The media should put the spotlight like they're doing right now in other places too, human lifes are worth the same no matter where they are
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by EOMM92
While this might sound unsensitive or that i'm trying to diminish the proportions of this tragedy but...
Tragedies like this happen almost every day in lots of places around the world, the media is acting like this is the end of the world just cause it happened in a first world country and one of the most important cities in the world...
The media should put the spotlight like they're doing right now in other places too, human lifes are worth the same no matter where they are
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Seven simultaneous, planned out attacks in a supposed-to-be-prepared first world country AFTER said country has dealt with the same terrorist repeatedly isn't quite on the same level. I'm not saying the tragedies aren't serious elsewhere too. Human life has value. But this showed off Isis and its abilities/reach far more than if they target a poorly prepared third world country or something
Most media is also centered around first world countries. Logically speaking, they're going to focus on local issues or major issues that happened to a country they have closer ties too, especially if it involves an already well known terrorist organization.
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Originally posted by EOMM92
While this might sound unsensitive or that i'm trying to diminish the proportions of this tragedy but...
Tragedies like this happen almost every day in lots of places around the world, the media is acting like this is the end of the world just cause it happened in a first world country and one of the most important cities in the world...
The media should put the spotlight like they're doing right now in other places too, human lifes are worth the same no matter where they are
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There's always one
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Quote:
Originally posted by EOMM92
While this might sound unsensitive or that i'm trying to diminish the proportions of this tragedy but...
Tragedies like this happen almost every day in lots of places around the world, the media is acting like this is the end of the world just cause it happened in a first world country and one of the most important cities in the world...
The media should put the spotlight like they're doing right now in other places too, human lifes are worth the same no matter where they are
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like the 43 people who died in the Beirut bombings literally yesterday.
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Member Since: 6/6/2012
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Toronto
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Originally posted by Repo
Fair point. Though I'd still like to think the site administration would maybe just pass some info along. Even if it was just "This was probably a hoax, but it's probably worth looking into just in case."
That said... I'm pretty sure if we see it now, we're probz gonna take it more seriously
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Maybe, I'm definitely more wary of suspicious packages / luggage / people etc on and in public areas and transport.
We have reminder signs on transport in London, as does New York. It's such a rarity and very unexpected though.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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My condolences goes out to all the people that has lost their loved ones in this grim day. It's gruesome to think these ISIS people can have this much power and cause so much harm to countless numbers of innocent people.
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