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Discussion: Billboard: Why "Fancy" is smashing
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by ~ joćo.
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I thought it did a lot better then that
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Honestly ya'll cant come at billboard for making a long ass list I mean they're billboard they're gonna do that. The song is catchy, both iggy and charli contribute the same to it and the video helped a lot thats all there is to it
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Originally posted by Graduation
What that poster was getting at was how some people dismiss Iggy's success by saying it's only due to her being white. Which is ridiculous, as evidenced by how lousy Kreayshawn performed. Iggy is clearly a better rapper, works with better artists, etc.
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What seems to be the issue is people thinking that mentioning that her being white gives her an advantage is equivalent to saying that her being white is the ONLY reason.
Nobody ever said that. There are other factors, along with her being white that have attributed to her success.
But lol @ the Kreayshawn comparison. Iggy is far more marketable than Kreayshawn, her music is way more pop friendly/mainstream, she is better looking, not as controversial, has way more people pushing for her, her beats/songs are way better etc. Fancy is catchy, pop friendly and has a unique/memorable video I'm sure all of that has helped attribute to the success of the song as well.
But, she is also white and that can not be overlooked. That's all we're saying
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Originally posted by Aatthew
Because Kreayshawn didn't have a marketable image or even marketable music.
Iggy has found success because she is a beautiful, blonde white female who makes pop music with hip-hop influence, has catchy hooks, and has top notch videos. ALL of what I said has helped her as well as her ability to know what is best for her/business-orientated mindset.
Kreayshawn had none of that lol and that's why she didn't find success. Her image/music wasn't something the GP could latch on to.
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Kreayshawn not marketable?
People went nuts over Gucci Gucci
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She definately had pop influenced songs on her album "Go Hard"- big budget video, catchy hook, etc..
So now what? Find another excuse
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Charli is the only reason, let's be clear here.
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Originally posted by Graduation
What that poster was getting at was how some people dismiss Iggy's success by saying it's only due to her being white. Which is ridiculous, as evidenced by how lousy Kreayshawn performed. Iggy is clearly a better rapper, works with better artists, etc.
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I think the people who are saying she is having this success because she is white are saying so thinking that if the song was performed by a rapper of color, would the results be the same? I don't think they are throwing Iggy and her talent out the window and saying her success is purely because she is white.
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Member Since: 5/16/2012
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Originally posted by TMTURKEY
Okay since Kreayshawn is trash then why isn't Snow Tha Product happening?
Why didn't Brooke Candy happen yet?
Exactly stop trying to knock somebodies succes because their race. Nobody would be complaining if Nicki was in Iggy's shoes RN
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People are just stating that her race helped get her to where she is now. There's nothing wrong with pointing out the obvious.
They aren't trying to say that Iggy has only found success because she is white and, if they do think that, they have to realize that there are a number of other things Iggy has and has done that are beneficial to her and her brand. She overall is more marketable to a larger audience than many of her rap contemporaries.
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Originally posted by Aatthew
Because Kreayshawn didn't have a marketable image or even marketable music.
Iggy has found success because she is a beautiful, blonde white female who makes pop music with hip-hop influence, has catchy hooks, and great videos. ALL of what I said has helped her as well as her ability to know what is best for her/business-orientated mindset.
Kreayshawn had none of that lol and that's why she didn't find success. Her image/music wasn't something the GP could latch on to.
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The fact people are actually trying to put Iggy and Kreayshawn on the same level solely because they are white.
Nobody is saying Fancy smashed because she's white. They are just saying race was a factor.
Let's just be real, Gucci Gucci probably wouldn't have went viral if she wasn't white. Race played a factor there too. Lesser known black rappers make songs like Gucci Gucci all the time and it goes unnoticed. It's just how things are. Denying it is pointless because it still happens.
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Originally posted by goldsoundz
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Originally posted by Sinister
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*light screams*
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people in this thread. "It wouldn't have been #1 without this and this and this and this"
So basically it wouldn't have been #1 if you completely change the song mess
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Member Since: 5/16/2012
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Originally posted by TMTURKEY
Kreayshawn not marketable?
People went nuts over Gucci Gucci
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She definately had pop influenced songs on her album "Go Hard"- big budget video, catchy hook, etc..
So now what? Find another excuse
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Is there something wrong with you? Like....
Kreayshawn isn't marketable (to the general public) at all.
If so, her label would have been able to do more with her and her music.
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Lol people saying Kreayshawn didn't have a specific aesthetic she was being marketed to, I actually remember people raving about her interesting DIY looks back then. It was obvious she was going to be a fad though because she had no versatility/more to offer and that "online" crowd moves along fast (as other female rappers have also experienced more recently).
Iggy worked harder (put out more projects, visuals, tours) than most other up & coming female rappers in the past few years, idk why people ignore that too.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Of course iggy being white and attractive is also a factor to why shes more marketable & successful, being white is almost always an advantage, I thought this was kind of mutually known
just look at Eminems sales I know ya'll gonna bring in other white rappers but hes the only one whos good (I guess), better then Kanye better then Jay-Z at his prime or Wayne at his prime? thats all debatable but unless im wrong hes outsold them all & him being white is a factor there
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Snow Tha Product is latina
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Originally posted by jomarr
So you agree that Iggy has potential so why should her success be accounted for her being white? I honestly thought Iggy was black before I saw the 'Work' video. This is not about race. If Nicki did the song, it will still be a big hit. It has that pop formula, Catchy, care-free lyrics and infectious beat.
It's a pop song and we all know pop is a hot commodity in the singles charts. I personally prefer Rap and Rock that's why I don't check on the BB Hot 100. I only do when I want to hear what the Top 40 is bringing on the table currently.
The last time I checked the full chart was back in 2013. I do check out the Rap Tracks and Rock Tracks charts a couple of times a month.
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I have always thought Iggy was GREAT. I have been a fan for years now. I don't think her success should be accounted for her being white, but I am also not naive enough to not admit that her being white, does help. And I agree if Nicki did the song, it would smash as well, but she has a history with Pop and that should be expected.
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Originally posted by Lethal
No, not everything in the world is revolved around race. We don't live in the 60's anymore, I'm not saying blacks aren't discredited but to say that this issue has anything to do with Iggy is dumb. And it is very racist to assume someone is only successful because of their race. That's literally the definition of racism. Iggy is successful because of talent, whether you can acknowledge that or not is not my problem tbh.
As another poster mentioned, notice how Ariana and Charli are also white yet you're specifically targeting Iggy. The excuses need to stop.
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This whole post is ignorance and it's clear you haven't developed an awareness of the world.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Consider me a prophet of some sort.
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This kinda post just showed how truly "troll" you are.
No matter whos right whos wrong, you will always be the one who post the last.
Stay Pressed tho,
Your opinions are invalid to Iggy's success.
Your opinions are invalid to her fans.
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Originally posted by Alvajay
Of course iggy being white and attractive is also a factor to why shes more marketable & successful, being white is almost always an advantage, I thought this was kind of mutually known
just look at Eminems sales I know ya'll gonna bring in other white rappers but hes the only one whos good (I guess), better then Kanye better then Jay-Z at his prime or Wayne at his prime? thats all debatable but unless im wrong hes outsold them all & him being white is a factor there
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You're right about Em.
But about Iggy, no. Yes, being white definitely is an advantage but having a catchy song ready for summer IS the reason of the song's success.
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Originally posted by Monster
This whole post is ignorance and it's clear you haven't developed an awareness of the world.
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D, book ha.
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Originally posted by Crystal.
Charli is the only reason, let's be clear here.
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This tbh.
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