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Discussion: Is Kelly Clarkson Iconic?
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Originally posted by Cas
The true icons are these who have been in the industry for 20-30 years and managed to get into peole's minds. Madonna, MJ, The Beatles - these are ICONS...
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No they are LEGENDS. Pretty big difference.
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Originally posted by Cas
The true icons are these who have been in the industry for 20-30 years and managed to get into peole's minds. Madonna, MJ, The Beatles - these are ICONS...
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Um, no. Those are legends. Exit the thread if you don't even know the definition of an Icon vs a Legend.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
No, those are legends.
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Yassss, educate that child!
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Originally posted by Ryan
When you talk about iconic, Beyoncé encompasses everything that an icon should be. She's followed in the paths of other legends who came from groups -- Michael Jackson, Gladys Knight, Diana Ross, etc., and parlayed that into an equally (in her case even greater) successful career.
You know who Beyonce is. The strength of her catalog speaks for itself. The acclaim speaks for itself. Her style and fashion is copied by everyday women. She's culturally relevant in every sense of the word.
And unlike some of the women previously discussed, the strength of her success comes with almost a decade in the business as a solo star. Her iconic status was built over the course of her career.
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Tell em
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by Ryan
When you talk about iconic, Beyoncé encompasses everything that an icon should be. She's followed in the paths of other legends who came from groups -- Michael Jackson, Gladys Knight, Diana Ross, etc., and parlayed that into an equally (in her case even greater) successful career.
You know who Beyonce is. The strength of her catalog speaks for itself. The acclaim speaks for itself. Her style and fashion is copied by everyday women. She's culturally relevant in every sense of the word.
And unlike some of the women previously discussed, the strength of her success comes with almost a decade in the business as a solo star. Her iconic status was built over the course of her career.
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Originally posted by iEatYaBRAINS
They are just... 
Not these people thinking Lady Gaga is iconic.
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I mean, Beyonce prolly but Lady gaga 
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Member Since: 9/21/2011
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I could be a biased opinion, but Beyonce is truly an Icon!
The world knows her name, which stands as unique.
Only four albums, and she still holds this tittle with 75 million sold.
Destiny's Child stands as the second best selling girls group (only behind the Spice GIrls) with 50 million albums sold.
Only artist to do such broad aspects of R&B AND Pop, and dominate in both.
16 grammy's.
'Nuff said. Try Me.
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Originally posted by YoYo
Assuming that the same number of people would attend her shows if she doubled her ticket prices? |
Neither you nor I can make that assumption, but the purpose of touring is to gain followers and get your name out there more. Katy did that.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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bee are famous because of her talent
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by Cas
The true icons are these who have been in the industry for 20-30 years and managed to get into peole's minds. Madonna, MJ, The Beatles - these are ICONS...
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I agree. NONE of today's stars are "icons" or viewed as such in the real world outside the stanbases.
Michael, Barbara, Madonna, Tina, David and a select others are the only musical figures with such a distinction. An icon is someone whose inspired and left an imprint for musicians of later decades to follow.
NONE of our faves have reached that level of respect yet.
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Originally posted by Kats
If her tickets were priced as high as the other pop stars, she would be making double that. Still, she had a 98% capacity overall for the tour, that is successful.
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If her tickets were as high as the other pop stars (like britney), they probably wouldn't sell anywhere near as much as they do at their current price tbh...
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Member Since: 11/18/2011
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Beyonce is the ICON for 21st century female empowerment. You all are ****ing STUPID if you think otherwise.
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at people saying 'no'. she obviously is, whether you like her or not.
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Well Beyonce is the pop star betewn Brit, Alicia,gaga,tina,adel,riri,Katy,Kesha that have been in the game the longest and have been the most longevilitie !!!!!!!
And she hasn't have a single album flop!!!!!
Since 1996 till now!!!!
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Originally posted by Glamazon
Beyonce is the ICON for 21st century female empowerment. You all are ****ing STUPID if you think otherwise. |
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Originally posted by nadjajhanelle
at people saying 'no'. she obviously is, whether you like her or not. |
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by Ryan
When you talk about iconic, Beyoncé encompasses everything that an icon should be. She's followed in the paths of other legends who came from groups -- Michael Jackson, Gladys Knight, Diana Ross, etc., and parlayed that into an equally (in her case even greater) successful career.
You know who Beyonce is. The strength of her catalog speaks for itself. The acclaim speaks for itself. Her style and fashion is copied by everyday women. She's culturally relevant in every sense of the word.
And unlike some of the women previously discussed, the strength of her success comes with almost a decade in the business as a solo star. Her iconic status was built over the course of her career.
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by jafet
Well Beyonce is the pop star betewn Brit, Alicia,gaga,tina,adel,riri,Katy,Kesha that have been in the game the longest and have been the most longevilitie !!!!!!!
And she hasn't have a single album flop!!!!!
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 yaaassss jafet stann!!!
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Yes. Of course she is 
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
I agree. NONE of today's stars are "icons" or viewed as such in the real world outside the stanbases.
Michael, Barbara, Madonna, Tina, David and a select others are the only musical figures with such a distinction. An icon is someone whose inspired and left an imprint for musicians of later decades to follow.
NONE of our faves have reached that level of respect yet.
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Actually a lot of people I talk to about music with see Beyonce as an icon in the general public. I just had a conversation with one of my friends yesterday and her exact words were "Beyonce is the epitome of what a star should be." And she is only a general music listener.
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