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Celeb News: Slate magazine on Rihanna's success
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Originally posted by KΔΥ.ΒΣΣ
And the fact that people are so anxious to mention her in the same sentence as these legends, whether it be good or bad, speaks volume in itself. Good or bad, people can't seem to keep her name out of their mouths. She must be doing something right.
She's manufactured, but she's dabbled in country, europop, house, hip-hop & R&B, reggae, dance, and rock and excelled/ been successful in all. Being a so called "chameleon" works for her. Y'all always say people will get tired of her, but why is she having one of the most successful years of her career while most of her contemporaries are falling short?
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I think it's always the Rihanna stans that throw the word LEGEND around while discussing her. That's when everyone else has to come in and rectify the situation.
And just because she recorded a song with an acoustic guitar doesn't make it country.
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Her best moments are indeed the ones that show off her roots (Man Down, Rude Boy, What's My Name, etc.). I love her most when she does reggae, or some form of it.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by G4L
mad? 
Britney is so unique and not manufactured at all.
I hope that will help you sleep at night 
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and since you didn't reply to my statement before, i will repeat it: the article has hateful undertones. they aren't even trying to show any type of objectivity when discussing rihanna's success and her career. the person clearly has an agenda. But of course ATRLers will take anything they read as gospel if it's similar to their own personal opinion of an artist. |
I never said she wasn't though, I said all commercial pop stars are manufactured to some extent. It's just that Rihanna makes it painfully obvious and doesn't back it up with much talent or memeroable performances to put her on the same level as her peers. That's what the article is about. 
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Originally posted by Wilkes
It's not, I need the receipts though. Where are those monsters?
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"Bad Romance" was written by RedOne and co-written by Lady GaGa.
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Member Since: 8/15/2010
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Originally posted by ****y On Venus
I honestly could care less about her as a person. As long as the music is something I like, I'm here for it.
Would it be nice to see it bit more of her personality? Yes. Does she need to do that to make great music? No.
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She's not big then, to achieve true 'success' you have to really put your personality on show and strike a chord with a certain demographic that truly love you and not just your music.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
I really don't know what people want from Rihanna these days.
Despite being her most critically praised, Rated R was panned commercially, saved only by the one upbeat song placed on the album. She's given deep, introspective, emotionally-fueled work and the public wasn't here for it. She is an artist first and foremost and has to do what sells. Don't let this article or anyone else fool you into believing every other artist isn't doing the same.
Rihanna will never live up to the standards set by Britney, Beyonce, Janet, or Madonna - not because the talent, achievements and credits aren't there - but because people don't want to see it. People always have issues with their faves or icons of their time being outshined by someone newer. You see it all the time with people saying things like "No one will ever be on the same level as Michael/Madonna/Beatles, etc.
A 1 hit wonder? Sorry no. A 1-hit wonder reaches success based on the music. Stan, neutral, and hater alike have to admit that a large portion of the time, Rihanna sells based on her name alone. That is no 1-hit wonder. She is a brand and people love it.
Some may say Rihanna is none of these things, doesn't have the talent or chops to match her success, but I do have to ask, why are nearly all the heavyweights in the industry in support of her?
Jay-Z doesn't work with just anybody. Kanye doesn't work with just anybody. Adele, arguably the biggest star in the world at the moment, who doesn't even make pop music has publicly stated she wants to work with her. Coldplay NEVER collaborates with anyone, yet chose Little Miss Sunshine herself to be apart of their recent album. Britney damn Spears has never been featured on any song save a Rihanna track.
I'm far more inclined to believe these nobody "music critics" and stans of other artists are the ones delusional rather than a good portion of the industry.
Flop magazine. Flop article. Flop thread.
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Perfectly said 
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Member Since: 5/13/2011
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Btw, the dragging about her styles in the article are too much.
Rih just wanna be free
Rih just wanna be Rih
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Member Since: 3/6/2011
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Originally posted by Wilkes
It's not, I need the receipts though. Where are those monsters?
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Interview with Fernando Garibay:
THR: She’s credited as a co-writer on most songs from Born This Way, what percentage of the songwriting would you say she’s responsible for?
Garibay:*She doesn't need anyone to write a hit song. A lot of times, it’s 100% her. She's generous enough to give the producers who worked on this album a percentage of the songwriting for the production and whatever contributions we gave in arrangement or a few lyrical suggestions here and there.
Source: http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/news/...ng-born-193459
It's well known in the industry that Gaga writes her own lyrics. She's written for other artists and was always a songwriter. She's credited on all her songs as a writer and many have confirmed her lyrics are, aside from suggestions here and there, completely from her.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by Nicole
She does or she wouldn't still be here, but her massive success doesn't match her starpower.
I don't usually pull the no #1 album card, but it means something.
How an album opens has to do with the singer's starpower.
How an album keeps selling has to do with the hit songs that are on it.
Rihanna's albums always open relatively soft based on her name, but tend to keep selling based on the hits they contain.
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Granted, the number one albums do showcase star power but someone is still buying the music and supporting her and a large part of that is because of Rihanna.
There are people out there who listen to her music to hear her.
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Member Since: 9/21/2010
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
But yet you seem to notice me, this thread is open for discussion among the entire board. And I never implied nor said I "hated" Rihanna, the **** son? stop reaching 
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The only time we see u up for any type of discussion is when its something negative. You say you stan for Britney but when was the last time we've seen you defended her? Where were you when she was slandered by her tour reviews?? But back to the topic at hand, you, or the article can't change the fact that she is a STAPLE in Pop music. This means that she MUST be doing something right to have ppl talk about her constantly and riles people's feathers. With success comes hate, let's hope she continues.
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Member Since: 4/1/2010
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11 pages in a hour.
This is evidence that clearly people feel nothing about her just as the article suggests. I mean, even outside the forum it's not like her single is #1 on itunes on ANY countries chart, or like she's performing for a sold out 34k concert tonight or anything. Clearly the masses just don't care. I sSeeE NO LIesS!!!1
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All the pressed bitches, All the pressed bitches, All the pressed bitches, Now put your hands up... Oh Oh Oh
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Member Since: 8/15/2010
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Originally posted by Яeo.
"Bad Romance" was written by RedOne and co-written by Lady GaGa.
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No, this is false.
IDK where it is but Gaga gives everyone who contributes to the song's musical interpretation with a song writing credit.
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Originally posted by longjohn9898
Interview with Fernando Garibay:
THR: She’s credited as a co-writer on most songs from Born This Way, what percentage of the songwriting would you say she’s responsible for?
Garibay:*She doesn't need anyone to write a hit song. A lot of times, it’s 100% her. She's generous enough to give the producers who worked on this album a percentage of the songwriting for the production and whatever contributions we gave in arrangement or a few lyrical suggestions here and there.
Source: http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/news/...ng-born-193459 |
There.
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
Then you simply disagree, the point is that Britney has already proven herself long ago and is embedded in pop culture. The same can't be said for Rihanna, Rihanna is still in her prime and still has A LOT to prove, the masses don't take her serious as a performer, vocalist, or anything because she has yet to have any highly memeroable defining moments in her career, she delivers consistent lackluster performances. It's going on 7 years now....
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I agree with you that britney has already proven herself and rihanna still has a long way to go and has to prove herself, but i disagreed mainly with you saying that she has nothing to prove NOW. Britney has that mentality which is probably she doesn't dance/perform to the best of her abilities.
But anyway.....this isn't the place for this discussion. 
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Member Since: 6/10/2009
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Originally posted by iBeyoncé.
The Truth has been revealed.
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I stan for Beyonce and know that **** aint true.
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
I really don't know what people want from Rihanna these days.
Despite being her most critically praised, Rated R was panned commercially, saved only by the one upbeat song placed on the album. She's given deep, introspective, emotionally-fueled work and the public wasn't here for it. She is an artist first and foremost and has to do what sells. Don't let this article or anyone else fool you into believing every other artist isn't doing the same.
Rihanna will never live up to the standards set by Britney, Beyonce, Janet, or Madonna - not because the talent, achievements and credits aren't there - but because people don't want to see it. People always have issues with their faves or icons of their time being outshined by someone newer. You see it all the time with people saying things like "No one will ever be on the same level as Michael/Madonna/Beatles, etc.
A 1 hit wonder? Sorry no. A 1-hit wonder reaches success based on the music. Stan, neutral, and hater alike have to admit that a large portion of the time, Rihanna sells based on her name alone. That is no 1-hit wonder. She is a brand and people love it.
Some may say Rihanna is none of these things, doesn't have the talent or chops to match her success, but I do have to ask, why are nearly all the heavyweights in the industry in support of her?
Jay-Z doesn't work with just anybody. Kanye doesn't work with just anybody. Adele, arguably the biggest star in the world at the moment, who doesn't even make pop music has publicly stated she wants to work with her. Coldplay NEVER collaborates with anyone, yet chose Little Miss Sunshine herself to be apart of their recent album. Britney damn Spears has never been featured on any song save a Rihanna track.
I'm far more inclined to believe these nobody "music critics" and stans of other artists are the ones delusional rather than a good portion of the industry.
Flop magazine. Flop article. Flop thread.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Originally posted by Wilkes
She's not big then, to achieve true 'success' you have to really put your personality on show and strike a chord with a certain demographic that truly love you and not just your music.
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But there's also a large demographic that like soulless pop music.
Your personality/spirit isn't always a factor in success.
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Member Since: 4/15/2011
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Originally posted by Яeo.
"Bad Romance" was written by RedOne and co-written by Lady GaGa.
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No
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by myNAMEisJAYR
I stan for Beyonce and know that **** aint true.
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When I tell you I screamed. Whoever wrote this article clearly isn't here for Rih.
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by Яeo.
"Bad Romance" was written by RedOne and co-written by Lady GaGa.
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Now you're just making up things.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by Яeo.
How you ever thought of the reason why has been making hit after hit for 6 years straight without people getting bored?
Honestly, other than Beyonce, I don't see any other artist that shine based solely on their talent. Their 'startpower' is based on controversies and acts that gets the media attention.
People just love Rihanna's exotic voice, and throughout the years she has gained people and artists respect through the whole world. Everyone desires her. Every one knows her. She's one of the most successful artists today, if not, the. Even though people never give her the credit, but her albums sell a lot. GGGB sold 8m+, Rated R 4m+, Loud 5.8m+, and who knows how much TTT will sell.
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No,
Everyone loves the TRACKS, that doesn't mean they like Rihanna. Sure she adds to the tracks but any popstar can attach their names to it and make it a hit. Rihanna isn't shinning based off of her "talent". If her talent includes picking the right tunes that make the cut, than I guess I agree with you in some way.
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