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Discussion: Archived: The K-Pop Discussion Thread (#1)
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
Some of you are just too delusional. SNSD have already achieved an all-kill and they'll remain unbothered.
I'd be quite surprised if Wonder Girls didn't achieve an all-kill. It's too easy for idols to get an all-kill nowadays. What matters is the album sales. And when it comes to album sales, no other girl groups can do as well as SNSD.
Trick, The Boys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be My Baby.
And also, get your fact straight, SNSD do not just release an album because they want to win year-end awards. Tiffany has already said that they didn't expect to win any awards anyways and they just wanted to release an album for their fans.
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SNSD didn't make an all-kill, they weren't #1 on Cyworld. 
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
Ch boo
SM and everyone knows the tea. That album was rushed so they could snatch those awards.
I don't care about individual tracks
As a whole
Wonder World > The Boys
An All Kill award which plenty of huge idols don't have won't change the facts.

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Seriously though, taste varies. Each group has good albums and bad ones.
I don't think SNSD could snatch those awards from Super Junior., whose album sales is above 300.000 copies.
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
Some of you are just too delusional. SNSD have already achieved an all-kill and they'll remain unbothered.
I'd be quite surprised if Wonder Girls didn't achieve an all-kill. It's too easy for idols to get an all-kill nowadays. What matters is the album sales. And when it comes to album sales, no other girl groups can do as well as SNSD.
Trick, The Boys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be My Baby.
And also, get your fact straight, SNSD do not just release an album because they want to win year-end awards. Tiffany has already said that they didn't expect to win any awards anyways and they just wanted to release an album for their fans.
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Wonder Girls have been absent from the Korean music scene for a year and a 1/2 now. Their fans have been dying for them to reappear that whole time, so they're not going to go unnoticed now that their comeback is upon us. Their single will smash, they will earn a ton of awards, and the album is going to sell. The hype is through the roof.
Sales aside, though, the Wonder Girls delivered one of the best K-pop releases of this year, and unfortunately, The Boys is nowhere near that list. If anything, it's one of the worst K-pop albums of this year. Sales are great, but quality is better, and the WG have SNSD beat in that area.
Ch...maybe SNSD wanted to do an album for the fans, but do you think that was SM's intent? SM obviously rushed the album out so they could get the awards.
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
I'm calling those who said SNSD could never achieve an all-kill in the previous page. I don't know what you are talking about but Super Junior did achieve an all-kill with Mr.Simple and TVXQ apparently did.
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no, they didn't. They're monsters in album sales, but when it comes to digital sales they're pretty basic, always on top 10 but never on top.
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
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The album, not the single. 
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alright, I stayed to watch you guys DRAG HA!

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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
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You really read the whole article?
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Wonder Girls have been absent from the Korean music scene for a year and a 1/2 now. Their fans have been dying for them to reappear that whole time, so they're not going to go unnoticed now that their comeback is upon us. Their single will smash, they will earn a ton of awards, and the album is going to sell. The hype is through the roof.
Sales aside, though, the Wonder Girls delivered one of the best K-pop releases of this year, and unfortunately, The Boys is nowhere near that list. If anything, it's one of the worst K-pop albums of this year. Sales are great, but quality is better, and the WG have SNSD beat in that area.
Ch...maybe SNSD wanted to do an album for the fans, but do you think that was SM's intent? SM obviously rushed the album out so they could get the awards.
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I can't at you guys attacking the myth that SM wanted SNSD to win awards. What awards? GDA? Are you kidding me? SM clearly knows that Super Junior is going to win that one.
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Upon its online release at midnight on August 2nd, the fifth album of Super Junior has achieved an “all-kill” on various Korean music charts. The actual album will hit stores on August 3rd. Soompi will deliver all of their comeback performances over the weekend so make sure you stay tuned!
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
I can't at you guys attacking the myth that SM wanted SNSD to win awards. What awards? GDA? Are you kidding me? SM clearly knows that Super Junior is going to win that one.
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Like they wouldn't put an SNSD album out, too, just for more safety. They wouldn't put all their eggs in one basket. 
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
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Yes, they would. Their chart had Shy Boy at #1 for 5 weeks, gurl please
EDIT: The others already spilled the tea, so... 
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Well, sorry about the Super Junior all-kill thingy.
SM artists usually do not do really well digital-wise.
Don't even like Super Junior so there's no point trying to defend them furthermore.
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
Well, sorry about the Super Junior all-kill thingy.
SM artists usually do not do really well digital-wise.
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SNSD and f(x) are digtal monsters. maybe u're trying to say SM Male Artistis. 
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Originally posted by Rominho.
SNSD and f(x) are digtal monsters. maybe u're trying to say SM Male Artistis. 
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I can only see SNSD doing well in both digital and album sales.
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well, for me Wonder World is a solid album, no fillers, some epic tracks and an incredible title track. The album is pure win 
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Originally posted by Halien4Life
underrated gem... 
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The melody, instrumental, Yuibin, THE ADLIBS,
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Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
Some of you are just too delusional. SNSD have already achieved an all-kill and they'll remain unbothered.
I'd be quite surprised if Wonder Girls didn't achieve an all-kill. It's too easy for idols to get an all-kill nowadays. What matters is the album sales. And when it comes to album sales, no other girl groups can do as well as SNSD.
Trick, The Boys >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Be My Baby.
And also, get your fact straight, SNSD do not just release an album because they want to win year-end awards. Tiffany has already said that they didn't expect to win any awards anyways and they just wanted to release an album for their fans.
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LMAO
An all-kill is extremely hard to get. BoA didn't even come close.
SNSD has no input in anything they do, they are the definition of manufactured.
SNSD didn't choose to release an album. SM did
and LMAO SNSD does not have one GOOD album or ep, All their title tracks are amazing (The Boys is arguable, in fact the album is the worst of the year) but the rest usually suck.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ashley Rocks
Well, sorry about the Super Junior all-kill thingy.
SM artists usually do not do really well digital-wise.
Don't even like Super Junior so there's no point trying to defend them furthermore.
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BoA: Sells more albums nowadays. No.1, Atlantis Princess and My Name were #1 songs, but Hurricane Venus only managed to get #3.
f(x): Sell albums and singles, but I don't think they made an all-kill already.
SNSD: Amazing album sales, only huge 1st week digital sales.
CSJH The Grace: Responsible for bringing back the girlgroup frenzy, but they're flopping now 
SHINee: Great album sales, good digital sales, but never saw them doing an all-kill.
SuJu: The best album sales alongside DBSK, but they never had a digital #1.
DBSK/TVXQ: Amazing album sales, good digital sales, but I don't remember watching them get digital #1's since a long time. Mirotic was #4 digitally IIRC, but they won the year-end because of the 500K album sales. The #2 album sold 130K 
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