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Album: Avril Lavigne - 'Goodbye Lullaby'
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Haha, I actually just got into Avril this album. I loved My December, and when I heard Avril's story with this project, I decided to get the album. I love Everybody Hurts, WYWH, Darling and Remember When - so much better than Bionic.
But I am serious when I say I don't know where RCA could go with it. They are way too slow to move in the industry. They seem to let things die before making a move.
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WTH, Smile, WYWH
I don't think Smile will perform that well, but releasing WYWH is risky - if pop radio dosen't pick it up it will end the whole era. RCA won't release another single, if both the single and album are flopping.
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Well neither have flopped, per say. Underperformed, certainly. But RCA sucks. 
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Under My Skin had a single that reflected the album perfectly, and targeted the key audience of 16 million that bought Let Go, so it was natural that it sold so well.
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I was referring to how the second single performed better than the first single though they were both in the same scheme.
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Well neither have flopped, per say. Underperformed, certainly. But RCA sucks.
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WTH hasn't done too bad really - it has probably outpeformed HIAM. Mainly talking about the second single - the album will freefall in the next single flops.
That they do. They would make more money if they actually supported their artists; even if they don't like the projects.
For My December they had made an entire video for Don't Waste Your Time and yet they didn't even release it to radio. Interscope & Capital certainly show the way. RCA have so many talented artists and yet labels without much are destroying them.
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
WTH hasn't done too bad really - it has probably outpeformed HIAM. Mainly talking about the second single - the album will freefall in the next single flops.
That they do. They would make more money if they actually supported their artists; even if they don't like the projects.
For My December they had made an entire video for Don't Waste Your Time and yet they didn't even release it to radio. Interscope & Capital certainly show the way. RCA have so many talented artists and yet labels without much are destroying them.
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my first post had to be a good one, I was tempted to troll the christina boards  |
I love you 
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#18 itunes, Don't know why Forget you and coming home sudden rise. But she passed TTWE again.
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Member Since: 6/14/2007
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
I think RCA will give this album a max of three singles - but most likely 2 with videos and one without - or possibly even just two singles. Going by Christina and Kelly (Never Again & Sober, Not Myself Tonight & You Lost Me) it would seem likely that they will go (WTH & WYWH), although the ballads often flop, I think WYWH is at least more marketable than YLM and Sober.
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They should have and promote more than 2 singles!
WTH still out there and doing great soo yeah!
worldwide the album is selling good, yes US it's like the most important and it's kind of dissapointing but let's hope we have logetivity as Avril Lavigne always has, and this will obviously do better than Kelly or Christina pleaseeee
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There's an unauthorized use of my Girlfriend/What the Hell mashup at the beginning  |
ok I will give you credit on the description of the video! didn't put the original track because then YouTube will block it and I thought "oh that's the perfect option!"
but u should be happy that I use your work (that actually didn't know it was yours) 
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I didn't think the video was yours
Then you can you use it whenever you want, don't worry
I thought that a random Avril fan used it without credits but well, atrl dudes have permission to use it
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Member Since: 1/28/2010
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Haha, I actually just got into Avril this album. I loved My December, and when I heard Avril's story with this project, I decided to get the album. I love Everybody Hurts, WYWH, Darling and Remember When - so much better than Bionic.
But I am serious when I say I don't know where RCA could go with it. They are way too slow to move in the industry. They seem to let things die before making a move.
I think I would go:
WTH, Smile, WYWH
I don't think Smile will perform that well, but releasing WYWH is risky - if pop radio dosen't pick it up it will end the whole era. RCA won't release another single, if both the single and album are flopping.
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How comes WYWH is a risk when it's the only song that debuted on Hot 100 ??? May be it's not that impressived for Rihanna or Katy Perry but for an album that only sold 87k in its first week, the debut was impressived. Releasing another single is taking much bigger risk. On the other hand, the reaction of the general public for Sober wasn't good at all (despite Kelly's fans loved the song). Wish You Were Here has been recieved a generally positve reation so far
Never Again was nevert a strong single for Kelly. Despite it peaked at #8 on Hot 100, it fell to make Top 20 on CHR/Pop. It was dead immediately after its released just like Not Myself Tonight. Both My December and Never Again have been the worst flop of Kelly ever. My December debuted high just because Kelly was the 2005-2007 version of Gaga. She was very huge in those years.
The amount of the single will depend on how her 2nd/3rd/4th single does. If her 3rd single still does well, RCA will release the 4th single. Because time have changed, selling singles are as important as selling album now 
Anyway, welcome to ATRL
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
To be honest, I think the main problem with both Christina and Avril is they waited far too long and in a brutal pop world, fans moved on. Avril also is getting slightly tired with her single formulations. While What The Hell has done okay, it is pretty much a sub-standard Girlfriend and it dosen't really fit the current lanscape of pop music. I'm not sure if it was the right single choice, considering it dosen't even closely reflect the album. I really don't think first week sales could have been much worse in the US.
My December was far less pop friendly than Goodbye Lullably, but kelly had a strong lead single and stood strong on her album. Sure it didn't come close to breakaway standards, but it still produced a platinum album and single with extremely limited label support.
I think RCA will give this album a max of three singles - but most likely 2 with videos and one without - or possibly even just two singles. Going by Christina and Kelly (Never Again & Sober, Not Myself Tonight & You Lost Me) it would seem likely that they will go (WTH & WYWH), although the ballads often flop, I think WYWH is at least more marketable than YLM and Sober.
However I can't see in cracking the top 40 on billboard. Really with the possible singles from this album, it's sort of doomed, especially with RCA.
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4 8 avril lavigne rca/rmg 30,206 -65%
goodbye lullaby
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14 12 AVRIL LAVIGNE What The Hell 5943 5380 563 30.992
+ 66 spins
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+ 0.751 AI
Good AI update!!!
Keep requesting this song on radio!!!!!
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AVRIL LAVIGNE - What The Hell: 39.060 (+ 0.901)
Almost 1M AI! lol 
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AVRIL LAVIGNE - What The Hell: 39.060 (+ 0.901)
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I think the requests worked 
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Requests are working! Keep going guys
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Out of top 40 in UK on midweek updated. Huge drop in third week but it's pretty much expected since WTH is totally dead there  . She really needs a new single in Europe. Damn RCA, you should release a single in Europe first. If Avril wants Push, just let her release it in Europe alone. Better have a song on radio than nothing at all :-/
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Nice .
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Worldwide album chart (Bigger table)
Pos Pos+ Artist and Title Days Peak Pts Pts+
1 = Adele - 21 25 1(25) 20338 -360
2 = The Strokes - Angles 6 2 19632 -365
3 +1 Bruno Mars - Doo-Wops & Hooligans 25 2 13724 +497
4 -1 Rihanna - Loud 25 2 13022 -853
5 +1 Green Day - Awesome As **** 6 5 12302 +1933
6 -1 Chris Brown - F.A.M.E. 6 5 11438 +308
7 +1 Armin van Buuren - A State of Trance 2011 6 4 10913 +846
8 -1 P!nk - Greatest Hits...So Far 25 4 10096 -161
9 = Guns N' Roses - Guns N' Roses: Greatest Hits 25 5 9210 +734
10 +32 Joe Bonamassa - Dust Bowl 2 10 8374 +4537
11 = Eminem - Recovery 25 8 7125 -200
12 -2 Rise Against - Endgame 13 2 7050 -1337
13 = Mumford & Sons - Sigh No More 25 10 6610 -34
14 = ABBA - ABBA Gold 25 14 6538 +277
15 +2 Panic! At the Disco - Vices & Virtues 3 15 6468 +550
16 -4 R.E.M. - Collapse Into Now 20 2 6409 -436
17 +4 Lady GaGa - The Fame Monster 25 7 6332 +642
18 -2 Yellowcard - When You're Through Thinking, Say Yes 2 16 5512 -560
19 +1 Rumer - Seasons of My Soul 25 9 5422 -278
20 -2 Adele - 19 25 12 5393 -498
21 +3 The Black Eyed Peas - The E.N.D. 25 12 5096 -66
22 +8 Beth Ditto - Beth Ditto - EP 20 5 5026 +602
23 -4 Avril Lavigne - Goodbye Lullaby 20 2 5016 -813
24 -1 Muse - The Resistance 25 16 5003 -205
25 = Coldplay - Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends 25 11 4939 -21
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falling so fast :-/
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Member Since: 4/26/2010
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I have a feeling the second single is taking so long because Avril won't release anything other than 'Push' and RCA want a Max Martin song 
Even 'I Love You' would be a great second single. Please, we just NEED another single!
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she needs 50AI to enter top 20 radio songs!
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