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Album: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way' (#1)
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Originally posted by Vin
Well, for instance...
There was a poll created about Born This Way: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110306.
Essentially, it's split 50/50. Now, if this poll was created before the lyrics were leaked, and asked, "Is Born This Way going to smash?" it would be split more like 90/10. There's backlash with those lyrics and some hype. Not that the song won't do well (as long as it has KILLER production), but it seems that although the "critics" are praising the record (most before even having heard the song), they aren't the ones that matter... the public does. And if ATRL is any reflection or considered a small cross-section of the general public... it would tell us that it may very well have a mixed reaction. She may have been better off just not releasing the lyrics to build hype and, instead, just performed at the Grammy's or waited to the songs official release.
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ATRL acted like Cannibal was the 2nd coming when that album leaked.
It flopped.
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The general public hasn't even read the lyrics, I assure you that.
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Originally posted by Vin
Well, for instance...
There was a poll created about Born This Way: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110306.
Essentially, it's split 50/50. Now, if this poll was created before the lyrics were leaked, and asked, "Is Born This Way going to smash?" it would be split more like 90/10. There's backlash with those lyrics and some hype. Not that the song won't do well (as long as it has KILLER production), but it seems that although the "critics" are praising the record (most before even having heard the song), they aren't the ones that matter... the public does. And if ATRL is any reflection or considered a small cross-section of the general public... it would tell us that it may very well have a mixed reaction. She may have been better off just not releasing the lyrics to build hype and, instead, just performed at the Grammy's or waited to the song's official release.
...Vin |
ATRL polls don't matter at all in terms of public or critical response. There's nothing you can take from them other than that they represent the opinion of the ATRL members who participated in the poll.
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Originally posted by Vin
Well, for instance...
There was a poll created about Born This Way: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110306.
Essentially, it's split 50/50. Now, if this poll was created before the lyrics were leaked, and asked, "Is Born This Way going to smash?" it would be split more like 90/10. There's backlash with those lyrics and some hype. Not that the song won't do well (as long as it has KILLER production), but it seems that although the "critics" are praising the record (most before even having heard the song), they aren't the ones that matter... the public does. And if ATRL is any reflection or considered a small cross-section of the general public... it would tell us that it may very well have a mixed reaction. She may have been better off just not releasing the lyrics to build hype and, instead, just performed at the Grammy's or waited to the song's official release.
...Vin |
Surprisingly the internet posters has been more receptive than ATRL at least from what ive seen on Entertainment Weekly and even on my facebook(5+ of my high school friends posted leaked lyrics yesterday, can you say secret stans)
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
ATRL acted like Cannibal was the 2nd coming when that album leaked.
It flopped.
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Beat me to the punch 
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Originally posted by Vin
Well, for instance...
There was a poll created about Born This Way: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110306.
Essentially, it's split 50/50. Now, if this poll was created before the lyrics were leaked, and asked, "Is Born This Way going to smash?" it would be split more like 90/10. There's backlash with those lyrics and some hype. Not that the song won't do well (as long as it has KILLER production), but it seems that although the "critics" are praising the record (most before even having heard the song), they aren't the ones that matter... the public does. And if ATRL is any reflection or considered a small cross-section of the general public... it would tell us that it may very well have a mixed reaction. She may have been better off just not releasing the lyrics to build hype and, instead, just performed at the Grammy's or waited to the song's official release.
...Vin |
No, she wanted people to get more excited about the release and that exactly what she's done. She's raised interest because for the first time some of her very own fans are doubting her and when she unleashes Born This Way she intends to eliminate all doubts.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
ATRL acted like Cannibal was the 2nd coming when that album leaked.
It flopped.
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I don't understand the praise that song gets.
Blow as well. Although it was insanely hot when it leaked. I burned it out a bit too much.
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Originally posted by Vin
Well, for instance...
There was a poll created about Born This Way: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110306.
Essentially, it's split 50/50. Now, if this poll was created before the lyrics were leaked, and asked, "Is Born This Way going to smash?" it would be split more like 90/10. There's backlash with those lyrics and some hype. Not that the song won't do well (as long as it has KILLER production), but it seems that although the "critics" are praising the record (most before even having heard the song), they aren't the ones that matter... the public does. And if ATRL is any reflection or considered a small cross-section of the general public... it would tell us that it may very well have a mixed reaction. She may have been better off just not releasing the lyrics to build hype and, instead, just performed at the Grammy's or waited to the songs official release.
...Vin |
DEATH at your FAILED ****ING Lack of logic.
1. you asked a question so you can purposly argue with the inevitable responces
2. you chose a poll to say there's a "split", yet you analyzed the data in the WRONG ****ing way because
a. The split is between whether or not people think the lyrics are inspirational or cotrived, neither of which indicated any perceived lack of anticipation
FAIL FAIL FAIL, 
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Well, explain them now. The floor is all yours. For the past page you've done nothing but offer non-construcitve criticism void of any imagination. PLEASE, tell us what YOU would like to hear. 
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If you really want to know, search the BTW threads by looking up my username and read my posts. My time is not worth proving myself to your ignorant self.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
I don't understand the praise that song gets.
Blow as well. Although it was insanely hot when it leaked. I burned it out a bit too much.
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I meant the album Cannibal.
But the song Cannibal is so bad, when she barks or wails or whatever it is she does
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Originally posted by Vin
Well, for instance...
There was a poll created about Born This Way: http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=110306.
Essentially, it's split 50/50. Now, if this poll was created before the lyrics were leaked, and asked, "Is Born This Way going to smash?" it would be split more like 90/10. There's backlash with those lyrics and some hype. Not that the song won't do well (as long as it has KILLER production), but it seems that although the "critics" are praising the record (most before even having heard the song), they aren't the ones that matter... the public does. And if ATRL is any reflection or considered a small cross-section of the general public... it would tell us that it may very well have a mixed reaction. She may have been better off just not releasing the lyrics to build hype and, instead, just performed at the Grammy's or waited to the songs official release.
...Vin |
DEATH at your FAILED ****ING Lack of Logic.
1. you asked a question so you can purposly argue with the inevitable responces
2. you chose a poll to say there's a "split", yet you analyzed the data in the WRONG ****ing way becauset the split is between whether or not people think the lyrics are inspirational or contrived, neither of which indicates any perceived lack of anticipation
FAIL FAIL FAIL, !!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
But the song Cannibal is so bad, when she barks or wails or whatever it is she does |
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I sure did not think Gaga would get a 4x platinum song with Bad Romance the first time I heard the demo...in fact I thought the album was going to be a flop and the song as well. Doubt is apart of the Gaga cycle...eventually faith will be restored.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I meant the album Cannibal.
But the song Cannibal is so bad, when she barks or wails or whatever it is she does |
Oh. It's a pop forum.
The song is not my favorite. The oh-woah-woah-oh's >>>>>
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I respect that kesha can write her own lyrics...even if she rhymes famous with anus....
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Originally posted by MrPeanut
The general public hasn't even read the lyrics, I assure you that.
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Valid point.
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Originally posted by Jewfro
ATRL polls don't matter at all in terms of public or critical response. There's nothing you can take from them other than that they represent the opinion of the ATRL members who participated in the poll.
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Invalid point. You must be observational, Jewfro. Every "Born This Way"/Lady Gaga poll... for the most part, had the majority of ATRLers and stans on the back of Lady Gaga and "Born This Way." And the first poll AFTER the lyrics were release... has ATLers split. I'm just pointing out an observation about how hype can affect a song's success for the worse.
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Originally posted by L/\DY G/\G/\
Surprisingly the internet posters has been more receptive than ATRL at least from what ive seen on Entertainment Weekly and even on my facebook(5+ of my high school friends posted leaked lyrics yesterday, can you say secret stans)
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Originally posted by Tysen
No, she wanted people to get more excited about the release and that exactly what she's done. She's raised interest because for the first time some of her very own fans are doubting her and when she unleashes Born This Way she intends to eliminate all doubts.
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Very well. That being said, I may joke about her and not be the biggest Lady Gaga fan, but I do hope the media doesn't unfairly try to tear her down. She's still an interesting part of the music industry.
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Originally posted by inspiration4
DEATH at your FAILED ****ING Lack of Logic.
1. you asked a question so you can purposly argue with the inevitable responces
2. you chose a poll to say there's a "split", yet you analyzed the data in the WRONG ****ing way becauset the split is between whether or not people think the lyrics are inspirational or cotrived, neither of which indicated any perceived lack of anticipation
FAIL FAIL FAIL, !!!!!!!!!! |
Damn, you know what's disappointing about this post? The fact that you had actually posted something very insightful the other day that I really respected, and I can almost say, changed my view slightly on a certain issue... and then I read this mess. Unfortunate. Inspiration, you have just failed.
...Vin
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Gorls, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but must we really fight so? At the end of the day, we all adore Lady Gaga and no matter what she does now we know she'll slay with this album, so let's just relax a bit. Of you don't have something insightful to say, say nothing. If you do want to say something, do it kindly. On February 13th, we will let the stans go to war. But for now, let us keep it calm, gurls, and enjoy the silence before the storm.
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Originally posted by Vin
Damn, you know what's disappointing about this post? The fact that you had actually posted something very insightful the other day that I really respected, and I can almost say, changed my view slightly on a certain issue... and then I read this mess. Unfortunate. Inspiration, you have just failed.
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My post was very unclassy, and it felt dirty typing it lol. But i did so only because you came across as an extreme troll. It's hard to believe you misconstrued the results of the poll in such a major way, especially after asking a "gotcha" question. 
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Originally posted by Vin
Valid point.
Invalid point. You must be observational, Jewfro. Every "Born This Way"/Lady Gaga poll... for the most part, had the majority of ATRLers and stans on the back of Lady Gaga and "Born This Way." And the first poll AFTER the lyrics were release... has ATLers split. I'm just pointing out an observation about how hype can affect a song's success for the worse.
Very well. That being said, I may joke about her and not be the biggest Lady Gaga fan, but I do hope the media doesn't unfairly try to tear her down. She's still an interesting part of the music industry.
Damn, you know what's disappointing about this post? The fact that you had actually posted something very insightful the other day that I really respected, and I can almost say, changed my
view slightly on a certain issue... and then I read this mess. Unfortunate. Inspiration, you have just failed.
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OMG 
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Originally posted by inspiration4
My post was very unclassy, and it felt dirty typing it lol. But i did so only because you came across as an extreme troll. It's hard to believe you misconstrued the results of the poll in such a major way, especially after asking a "gotcha" question. |
Dude, I'm not doing anything but having a conversation. Why do people on ATRL get so up in arms when having a conversation or debate about an artist. It's either... "Like my artist! If you don't... GTFO of this thread!" That doesn't make any sense. You don't have to be a "troll" just because you're questioning an artist. I like having back and forth conversation. I enjoy Ke$ha (and many other artists) but I don't take it personally or report anyone that doesn't like her. Ridiculous.
...Vin
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