As I said previously, love is a general and broader term/reaction of our specific emotions. Hence, love doesn't exist exclusively but collectively.
I love this idea. It is so well-stated.
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Question for arkl: Did you even watch the Judge Judy clip on the two week tumultuous relationship case? You should watch it if you didn't. Really that clip from my perception is the last chapter of a short novel that had two threads: a scam artist and a giver. Although there was really no love about it except that the woman was falling for a man whom she met for couple days and willing to give her life up for him after a week or so ... absurd to even call it "love" when it is clearly her infatuation. However like you guys said and people already know that love can be defined by whatever ways you see.
I've also been thinking a lot more about you said on this matter, KT&T. It's interesting that you bring up the idea of infatuation, because I feel like that's probably the closest I've ever come to "loving" someone (in a romantic, not familial, sense). I think an important of love is that it must be shared; I think there has to be a sense of reciprocity there. I have begun to develop romantic interest in others before, but never anything that was serious enough to truly go anywhere.
Well at least in my country. Bullying was never really a big issue maybe because of the prevailing positive attitude that was imposed in all of us and maybe because of the unclassified factions in the school. The nerds can hang-out with the cheerleaders and everyone can easily compromise to each other's preference.
It's interesting to hear the way you phrased: "prevailing positive attitude that was imposed in all of us." Do you feel like that attitude is genuine then? Or just something that you feel like you have to present to others?
And regardless of the reason, I'm glad to hear that your school is not super-cliquey. Bullying was one of the worst things about my academic experience (it truly bordered on harassment at points), and that was definitely amplified by the perception that some students were better than others.
It's interesting to hear the way you phrased: "prevailing positive attitude that was imposed in all of us." Do you feel like that attitude is genuine then? Or just something that you feel like you have to present to others?
And regardless of the reason, I'm glad to hear that your school is not super-cliquey. Bullying was one of the worst things about my academic experience (it truly bordered on harassment at points), and that was definitely amplified by the perception that some students were better than others.
I'd like to call it as ethical. It has its bases on the principle of "do unto others what blah blah blah" and tot he aspect of reciprocating the good deeds that your fellow has done for you, "utang na loob" in our native tongue.
I'd like to call it as ethical. It has its bases on the principle of "do unto others what blah blah blah" and tot he aspect of reciprocating the good deeds that your fellow has done for you, "utang na loob" in our native tongue.
I mean, they told us that too, from kindergarten onwards, but sometimes people are just mean. I'm glad to hear that you didn't have to suffer through any negative experiences, though. That's the first step toward a better world, in general!
I mean, they told us that too, from kindergarten onwards, but sometimes people are just mean. I'm glad to hear that you didn't have to suffer through any negative experiences, though. That's the first step toward a better world, in general!
It's different with us, though. That was taught here but there's a feeling that we almost invented that moral instinct and that we are obliged to fulfill and apply it to our ourselves. It's really different here. And it has its subsequent pros and cons.
These two cases deal with a related subject that I also think is very interesting.
Child Beaten With a Belt
Stepdad Hits 3-year-old with a Belt
What do you think about parents physically punishing their kids? Does it qualify as abuse? Or is there a point at which it crosses over from being okay to being harmful? Do you think it's fair to the child? Should we allow people to be completely in control of how they discipline?
Well, for 17 years I did not believe in love. I was with random guys and didnt really care about them. I liked to be with them, but everything felt very materialistic. It seemed like what we were doing was to pleasure ourselfs with our bodies instead of trying to pleasure ourselfs spiritually.
My idea that love didnt exist was full of theories explaining the biological needs human beings have, and I was sure nothing would ever change my mind, plus, I am very stubborn. This January I got involved with a big friend and accidentally fell in love with him... What I felt when I was with him was completely different than with other guys. I actually didnt even like kissing before, it was too normal and didnt interest me, but when we kissed it was like the expression of what we felt about each other. It wasnt to simply kiss, it meant a lot more than that... At first when we were together everything else disapeared literally, I couldnt even know what he was doing, if he was touching me or not. It was like I was in another dimension where the only thing I was focussed on was in my heart beat and everything going on inside me, and his lips.
Admitting to anyone that I believed now that love existed was a HUGE step for me. I had had so many discussions on that subject with so many people and no one had succeded in making me believe in anything. Eventually I did tell him it was his fault that I believed in love. We were together for about two months, constantly breaking up and going back, because I couldnt stand to see that he didnt like as much as I did and then regreted to be apart from him.
At the end I broke up for good, and we stayed apart for two months while I tried to be with another person but couldnt forget him. A few weeks ago we tried to go back but the timing wasnt good and a few days ago he said he just wanted to be my friend
I feel like I'm broken inside and whats upsetting is that I wont find anyone like him again. This may sound a little exagerating but it's true. I find flaws in everyone I meet, no one will be as perfect as he is. He is probably the best person I have ever met, with a wonderful personality and a huge heart.
And how about that case? Whose side are you on? Do you believe that woman is crazy for doing what she did? Or do you understand where she is coming from? What would you do for love?
These people are CRAZY. How does any 30 year old woman leave her life for a guy she has met in the internet 2 days ago?! I would do anything for love, I have already done some crazy things, but never for a guy I met 2 days ago.
Love is the spiritual connection between two persons on a very very high level. It's understanding another soul and knowing he understands you too. It's the best feeling on earth, to find the one person you know you would be happy your whole life with. It's to share everything you have and receive everything he has. It's to feel complete and happy with the most insignificant things he does.
Love is the most powerful feeling of all. It can damage you so much you would wish to die instead.
Question for supaspaz, Tinkerbell, and amandatheafter: Did you promote this thread more when I advised you two days ago? I am very disappointed in all three of you. Especially the team leader amandatheafter, you're not even in the discussion of Episode 2. Supaspaz you did a heck a job with this show. I applaud you for it!! Lack of promotion makes this thread loosing out to the other two. However, I can already see superb quality in this show and it shall not go unnoticed when we judge your threads.
I did try to promote it going to everyone's walls, but as I had said before to you, this 3 days I had almost no time to come online. I wish the finale can last a little longer
Supaspaz you are my hero, these subjects you chose are the most interesting of all. When the finale is over I hope this can still be discussed on ATRL because I would like to see everyone's opinion on these. Its a shame no one is comenting
PS: I must say that I think the majority of ATRL members live in a different time schedule so I cant keep up with the discussions...
a belt when he was only 3 wtf!
p.s its a bit unfair that Amanda got judge judy when Oprah is by like 100x more popular on the board and jerry springer is more popular to.
Love is the most powerful feeling of all. It can damage you so much you would wish to die instead.
I have to agree. I think love, or our perception of it, or our associations with it, is one of the most powerfully positive and powerfully destructive forces. And sadly, we really have no control over it. We just have to deal with how it affects us.
I believe in Love, definitely. I don't believe in soul mates, and I don't believe in destiny, or fate. I think that some people are better suited than others, but you can grow to love almost anyone.
The word 'love' is thrown around a little too often. People, especially young teenagers, assume they 'love' someone simply because they are dating, or they are attracted to one another.
I have been dating my boyfriend Mitch now for almost 3 years and I know I wasn't in love with him at first, it took time, just like every relationship. But now I know i'm in love. I feel physically ill when he's gone for too long, he feels the same way. It's little things like that that show you how you feel for one another.
I worry too much about him, He pisses me off sometimes and I know I do the same, but that's love. It's not perfect. It hurts. and it's definitely not easy, but what you get in return is sooo worth it, you don't mind. We wasn't destined for each other, we just ... happened. We may not be together forever, I may love other people years from now, but what I feel right now distracts me from all that, and I feel like this is the place I should stay, where I hope I will stay.
And other factors can definitely come into it, sex, money ect. They can blind you, delude you into thinking you're in love. Sometimes you don't know if you love someone, but eventually if you work at it, you'll know.
Well, for 17 years I did not believe in love. I was with random guys and didnt really care about them. I liked to be with them, but everything felt very materialistic. It seemed like what we were doing was to pleasure ourselfs with our bodies instead of trying to pleasure ourselfs spiritually.
My idea that love didnt exist was full of theories explaining the biological needs human beings have, and I was sure nothing would ever change my mind, plus, I am very stubborn. This January I got involved with a big friend and accidentally fell in love with him... What I felt when I was with him was completely different than with other guys. I actually didnt even like kissing before, it was too normal and didnt interest me, but when we kissed it was like the expression of what we felt about each other. It wasnt to simply kiss, it meant a lot more than that... At first when we were together everything else disapeared literally, I couldnt even know what he was doing, if he was touching me or not. It was like I was in another dimension where the only thing I was focussed on was in my heart beat and everything going on inside me, and his lips.
Admitting to anyone that I believed now that love existed was a HUGE step for me. I had had so many discussions on that subject with so many people and no one had succeded in making me believe in anything. Eventually I did tell him it was his fault that I believed in love. We were together for about two months, constantly breaking up and going back, because I couldnt stand to see that he didnt like as much as I did and then regreted to be apart from him.
At the end I broke up for good, and we stayed apart for two months while I tried to be with another person but couldnt forget him. A few weeks ago we tried to go back but the timing wasnt good and a few days ago he said he just wanted to be my friend
I feel like I'm broken inside and whats upsetting is that I wont find anyone like him again. This may sound a little exagerating but it's true. I find flaws in everyone I meet, no one will be as perfect as he is. He is probably the best person I have ever met, with a wonderful personality and a huge heart.
I can't say I know exactly how you feel, but I can at least relate to feeling heart-broken from some of my own experiences. I feel like, when we're young and we haven't lived so much yet, it's easy to think that our first love (which it sounds like this guy was for you) is the end-all, be-all of our romantic lives. But you should remember that he's just your first love, not your last love - and you can take him as your first growing experience as well. In the future, you will always remember him, because of the important place he holds in your life and your heart, but you will also find someone else just as special to spend the rest of your life with (if that's what you want).
p.s its a bit unfair that Amanda got judge judy when Oprah is by like 100x more popular on the board and jerry springer is more popular to.
I was thinking about that, which is why I tried to make this show only tangentially related to the actual "Judge Judy." I was hoping interesting discussions on universal subjects like drugs, love and bullying would ignite ATRL members. And I've heard some really interesting things so far. But obviously, it's very difficult to compete with fighting midgets and the Big O!
I have to agree. I think love, or our perception of it, or our associations with it, is one of the most powerfully positive and powerfully destructive forces. And sadly, we really have no control over it. We just have to deal with how it affects us.
So true. The only thing we can do is to choose the best way to handle it when it's over. It is so hard
I think that some people are better suited than others, but you can grow to love almost anyone.
This is an interesting point. I agree with and disagree at the exact same time! On the one hand, I think love takes time and work; it has to grow. This idea of love at first sight is just infatuation in my opinion - those "other factors" getting in the way. But I don't know about loving anyone. I think there's probably a "type" that we for that we are more suited to be compatible with. Sometimes, we become interested in someone outside of our "type," and that's when we think love is crazy or unexpected.
I believe in Love, definitely. I don't believe in soul mates, and I don't believe in destiny, or fate. I think that some people are better suited than others, but you can grow to love almost anyone.
The word 'love' is thrown around a little too often. People, especially young teenagers, assume they 'love' someone simply because they are dating, or they are attracted to one another.
I have been dating my boyfriend Mitch now for almost 3 years and I know I wasn't in love with him at first, it took time, just like every relationship. But now I know i'm in love. I feel physically ill when he's gone for too long, he feels the same way. It's little things like that that show you how you feel for one another.
I worry too much about him, He pisses me off sometimes and I know I do the same, but that's love. It's not perfect. It hurts. and it's definitely not easy, but what you get in return is sooo worth it, you don't mind. We wasn't destined for each other, we just ... happened. We may not be together forever, I may love other people years from now, but what I feel right now distracts me from all that, and I feel like this is the place I should stay, where I hope I will stay.
And other factors can definitely come into it, sex, money ect. They can blind you, delude you into thinking you're in love. Sometimes you don't know if you love someone, but eventually if you work at it, you'll know.
You learned to love him? I find that impossible for me, I cant make myself love anyone on purpose
I can't say I know exactly how you feel, but I can at least relate to feeling heart-broken from some of my own experiences. I feel like, when we're young and we haven't lived so much yet, it's easy to think that our first love (which it sounds like this guy was for you) is the end-all, be-all of our romantic lives. But you should remember that he's just your first love, not your last love - and you can take him as your first growing experience as well. In the future, you will always remember him, because of the important place he holds in your life and your heart, but you will also find someone else just as special to spend the rest of your life with (if that's what you want).
I certainly hope I can love someone again as much as I loved him. I have been talking to some people and they told me their first love was the one they loved the most. They had more realtionships afterwards and are very happy, but feel they could never love someone as much as they loved their first love. And having so much love for someone without being able to give it, is such a waste
I was thinking about that, which is why I tried to make this show only tangentially related to the actual "Judge Judy." I was hoping interesting discussions on universal subjects like drugs, love and bullying would ignite ATRL members. And I've heard some really interesting things so far. But obviously, it's very difficult to compete with fighting midgets and the Big O!
Unfortunately it is. People are generally more interested in akward weird simple things than in subjects as deep as these. Its a shame
a belt when he was only 3 wtf!
p.s its a bit unfair that Amanda got judge judy when Oprah is by like 100x more popular on the board and jerry springer is more popular to.
They were asked to pick one of three things: Justice, Chaos, Influence. =\
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I was thinking about that, which is why I tried to make this show only tangentially related to the actual "Judge Judy." I was hoping interesting discussions on universal subjects like drugs, love and bullying would ignite ATRL members. And I've heard some really interesting things so far. But obviously, it's very difficult to compete with fighting midgets and the Big O!
No supaspaz and MonsterRoco, you guys are not going the parody route like the others. There are lots of crazy things going in the court as well. My observations on the threads show that while Sats and Matty&Dj. used their friends to help them get the conversation going and encourage more parody postings. While in this thread, I see a cleaner image, less chaotic, real formal and interesting discussion. Sara did get her friends Pedro and Joao but they are not talking much. :S
As I said before quality and quantity will count. The scoring and judging format is posted in the game thread. 0 to 100 points for view counts which is shared among 3 threads which currently you earn 22 points. Oprah show gets 37 points. Jerry Show gets 41 points. This is speaking in points as of now. The quality of the threads will be judged and that will be out of 200 points.
Still promote promote promote. A thread filled with interesting discussion is wasted and will not look highly successful to the judges if it's a conversation between you arkl.
You guys are doing better today. ... again I understand now with Sara's situation. *sad face*
These people are CRAZY. How does any 30 year old woman leave her life for a guy she has met in the internet 2 days ago?! I would do anything for love, I have already done some crazy things, but never for a guy I met 2 days ago.
Lack of promotion makes this thread loosing out to the other two. However, I can already see superb quality in this show and it shall not go unnoticed when we judge your threads.
I wish the finale can last a little longer 
... again I understand now with Sara's situation. *sad face*