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Celeb News: More details on 5H mess
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I just realised that all these girls auditioned to be solo artists on X Factor. So being in a girl group was only ever a stepping stone for any of them who was serious about wanting to be a solo artist. So I kind of have to respect Camila for sticking to her guns and serving her time on the group before moving on to what she really wanted.
It kind of makes me think the other girls don't have the same ~artistic integrity~ Camila does and only care about being famous, even if that fame is part of a group because that's better than being solo and not famous. Camila is risking losing that fame by leaving the group and going solo because that's what she really wanted to do all along. Good for her!
If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself: would the other girls still be staying in the group together if they never got signed after X Factor? If they never had a hit? 
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This explain those 2 petty explanation from 5H management, off course they will try to end Camila because now all of the focus will be for Camila.
Zara better watch out because Camila is coming.
Isnt Camila being the only one in iTunes top 10 fom Epic right now?
L.A Reid nnnnnnn mess, thats why he's been very supporting both with IKWYDLS and Bad things.
Also L.A Reid never really liked girl group so its telling something
Poor Ot4, tho, not Camila single handedly end their career just like that.
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Originally posted by Marla Singer
I just realised that all these girls auditioned to be solo artists on X Factor. So being in a girl group was only ever a stepping stone for any of them who was serious about wanting to be a solo artist. So I kind of have to respect Camila for sticking to her guns and serving her time on the group before moving on to what she really wanted.
It kind of makes me think the other girls don't have the same ~artistic integrity~ Camila does and only care about being famous, even if that fame is part of a group because that's better than being solo and not famous. Camila is risking losing that fame by leaving the group and going solo because that's what she really wanted to do all along. Good for her!
If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself: would the other girls still be staying in the group together if they never got signed after X Factor? If they never had a hit? 
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Exactly. Camila follows her heart and always true to her heart.
But i also understand that OT4 probably would never have a chance at solo career, thats why they were trying everything they can to keep Camila in the group. It must be really hard for her these past months wheewwww... no wonder so many shady moments from OT4 to her, i'm just glad that despite all the pressure and all she is still choosing to be happy and follow her heart.
Brave queen 
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Originally posted by Marla Singer
It kind of makes me think the other girls don't have the same ~artistic integrity~ Camila does and only care about being famous, even if that fame is part of a group because that's better than being solo and not famous. Camila is risking losing that fame by leaving the group and going solo because that's what she really wanted to do all along. Good for her!
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It is literally the opposite 
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Originally posted by Pinter
Exactly. Camila follows her heart and always true to her heart.
But i also understand that OT4 probably would never have a chance at solo career, thats why they were trying everything they can to keep Camila in the group. It must be really hard for her these past months wheewwww... no wonder so many shady moments from OT4 to her, i'm just glad that despite all the pressure and all she is still choosing to be happy and follow her heart.
Brave queen 
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Originally posted by Marla Singer
I just realised that all these girls auditioned to be solo artists on X Factor. So being in a girl group was only ever a stepping stone for any of them who was serious about wanting to be a solo artist. So I kind of have to respect Camila for sticking to her guns and serving her time on the group before moving on to what she really wanted.
It kind of makes me think the other girls don't have the same ~artistic integrity~ Camila does and only care about being famous, even if that fame is part of a group because that's better than being solo and not famous. Camila is risking losing that fame by leaving the group and going solo because that's what she really wanted to do all along. Good for her!
If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself: would the other girls still be staying in the group together if they never got signed after X Factor? If they never had a hit? 
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Camila wouldn't be who and what she is without 5H.
At the very least, she could have fulfilled the contract before thinking about her own endeavours.
Didn't even have the decency to discuss it with the other members herself. That's the kind of person she is.
She's a selfish bitch. Don't twist it.

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Lmaooo @ this article basically confirming it's not just the GP that sees Camila as the breakout superstar/lead singer of 5H, but the label does as well!
I love how she already has an album in the works and 4H have an uncertain future.
Talent wins!
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Originally posted by Dominiqtrix
It's like 99% of the people here either lack basic reading comprehension skills or didn't even open the article, only read these topics on first page that are making it seem like this article exposed Camila when in fact had several points backing her statement and calling out 5H.
No, she's not going against LA Reid and Epic and they're not backing 5H. In fact, it says Epic is investing heavily in Camila's solo career and has been sending her to studio sessions with top producers like Benny Blanco and Diplo and they might not even give the other 4 a third album.
Billboard's source says Camila did go to sit-downs with a therapist but they became a scenario of 4 against 1 and were very unproductive. It also says she instead opted to have one-on-one conversations with each member during their tour bc that was more effective than group conversations.
She couldn't stay in the group if she still wanted to make solo music: "The group's management made it clear that if she wanted to make any more solo music, it wouldn't work for them”
It also points out the massive decline of TMG on radio after the way they horribly handled the announcement and it questions if 5H is getting backlash, not Camila like y'all say.
It also mentions jealousy going on in the group and how Camila was blindsided by their statement.
And to finish, something to get y'all mad:
"One thing that isn't being debated, however, is Cabello's potential as a breakout star. While it's not unusual for one member of a group to try his or her hand at a solo career -- even while still attached to the group, as Beyoncé did while still in Destiny's Child -- it is rather uncommon for someone to stand out in a collective as much as Cabello has over the past years. In terms of collaborations, her top 20 hit with Mendes highlighted Cabello's breathy delivery, while her authoritative turn on Machine Gun Kelly's "Bad Things” launched the fledgling rapper into the Hot 100 top 10. Yet Cabello has also demonstrated -- through her hilariously self-deprecating Snapchat antics, revealing interview quotes and intimate interactions with her 3.2 million Twitter followers -- a superstar's knack for connecting with fans and standing out from her surroundings."
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Eh you're being a bit hypocritical.... They only stated TMG had been falling on radio to indicate why promo for the song has come to a halt, nothing to do with the whole situation.
Also jealousy was only mentioned via an opinion of a radio host.
The whole she couldn't make solo music is false. The group and management were only not here for fifth harmony taking a break so camila could release an album. They had every right to kick her out.
And lastly her followers don't mean anything. Sure she had success off one heavily promoted discounted critically panned single with a racist homophobe but she won't always receive this backing. Just look at zayn he is 10x bigger than camila and he got paid dust with his album that sold twice as much as fifth harmony's.
Y'all C stans love to act like she is some Beyonce type figure who is bigger than the rest of the other four girls which is just false. Try again.
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Originally posted by J a y
Camila wouldn't be who and what she is without 5H.
At the very least, she could have fulfilled the contract before thinking about her own endeavours.
Didn't even have the decency to discuss it with the other members herself. That's the kind of person she is.
She's a selfish bitch. Don't twist it.

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She did discuss it. Omg it is literally so delusional to even think that camila never talked about going solo with the other girls. Or that there was no communication at all given the fact that they spent most of their time this year together. Camila just didnt show up to the formal group meetings because, in past meetings, she usually feels attacked and feels like its always 4vs1.
There is NO WAY the girls didn't know WAY BEFORE LAST MONTH that camila wanted out of 5h.
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Originally posted by Dominiqtrix
It's like 99% of the people here either lack basic reading comprehension skills or didn't even open the article, only read these topics on first page that are making it seem like this article exposed Camila when in fact had several points backing her statement and calling out 5H.
No, she's not going against LA Reid and Epic and they're not backing 5H. In fact, it says Epic is investing heavily in Camila's solo career and has been sending her to studio sessions with top producers like Benny Blanco and Diplo and they might not even give the other 4 a third album.
Billboard's source says Camila did go to sit-downs with a therapist but they became a scenario of 4 against 1 and were very unproductive. It also says she instead opted to have one-on-one conversations with each member during their tour bc that was more effective than group conversations.
She couldn't stay in the group if she still wanted to make solo music: "The group's management made it clear that if she wanted to make any more solo music, it wouldn't work for them”
It also points out the massive decline of TMG on radio after the way they horribly handled the announcement and it questions if 5H is getting backlash, not Camila like y'all say.
It also mentions jealousy going on in the group and how Camila was blindsided by their statement.
And to finish, something to get y'all mad:
"One thing that isn't being debated, however, is Cabello's potential as a breakout star. While it's not unusual for one member of a group to try his or her hand at a solo career -- even while still attached to the group, as Beyoncé did while still in Destiny's Child -- it is rather uncommon for someone to stand out in a collective as much as Cabello has over the past years. In terms of collaborations, her top 20 hit with Mendes highlighted Cabello's breathy delivery, while her authoritative turn on Machine Gun Kelly's "Bad Things” launched the fledgling rapper into the Hot 100 top 10. Yet Cabello has also demonstrated -- through her hilariously self-deprecating Snapchat antics, revealing interview quotes and intimate interactions with her 3.2 million Twitter followers -- a superstar's knack for connecting with fans and standing out from her surroundings."
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THIS ****ING TEA!!!

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Originally posted by Tinashebanks
Y'all C stans love to act like she is some Beyonce type figure who is bigger than the rest of the other four girls which is just false. Try again.
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She's definitely not a Beyonce, but she IS bigger than the other 4 girls. That's not even a personal opinion.
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Originally posted by J a y
Camila wouldn't be who and what she is without 5H.
At the very least, she could have fulfilled the contract before thinking about her own endeavours.
She's a selfish bitch. Don't twist it.

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What was the contract she didn't fulfill? Have you read it? Which part(s) of the contract did Camila break?
I'm genuinely asking because I've seen a lot of people say the same thing as you, so there must be some kind of source. And I'm interested in seeing a contract so messed up that it wouldn't allow any member of the group to leave it. It's also interesting because we haven't heard anything about Camila being sued - I'd imagine she would be if she had really broken any legally binding agreement.
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5H management were so wrong for publishing those 2 explanation essays. Epic must be fuming and probably would cancel 4H3 
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Originally posted by GabrielLavigne
She's definitely not a Beyonce, but she IS bigger than the other 4 girls. That's not even a personal opinion.
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Combined I meant.
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Originally posted by Tinashebanks
Eh you're being a bit hypocritical.... They only stated TMG had been falling on radio to indicate why promo for the song has come to a halt, nothing to do with the whole situation.
Also jealousy was only mentioned via an opinion of a radio host.
The whole she couldn't make solo music is false. The group and management were only not here for fifth harmony taking a break so camila could release an album. They had every right to kick her out.
And lastly her followers don't mean anything. Sure she had success off one heavily promoted discounted critically panned single with a racist homophobe but she won't always receive this backing. Just look at zayn he is 10x bigger than camila and he got paid dust with his album that sold twice as much as fifth harmony's.
Y'all C stans love to act like she is some Beyonce type figure who is bigger than the rest of the other four girls which is just false. Try again.
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What does being bigger than the rest of the girls have to do with her CHOOSING to follow her own path? Why are you so annoyed that people support her? 
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Originally posted by GabrielLavigne
She did discuss it. Omg it is literally so delusional to even think that camila never talked about going solo with the other girls. Or that there was no communication at all given the fact that they spent most of their time this year together. Camila just didnt show up to the formal group meetings because, in past meetings, she usually feels attacked and feels like its always 4vs1.
There is NO WAY the girls didn't know WAY BEFORE LAST MONTH that camila wanted out of 5h.
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True. In their own statement 5H say they knew (at least) several months beforehand and were trying to change her mind. And she gave them official notification that she was leaving a month before she did - that's probably the bare minimum she was obliged to give, but she had obviously made it clear long before then that she wanted to leave.
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Member Since: 12/22/2010
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Originally posted by J a y
Camila wouldn't be who and what she is without 5H.
At the very least, she could have fulfilled the contract before thinking about her own endeavours.
Didn't even have the decency to discuss it with the other members herself. That's the kind of person she is.
She's a selfish bitch. Don't twist it.

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She fulfilled her contract. Not sure if you get how the law works, but she wouldn't be able to leave if that weren't the case.
She pursued her solo endeavors the same way the others did. The fact that Normani is stuck doing YouTube covers and Marian is collaborating with unknown people is not her fault.
The other girls want her to put her own career on hold so they can succeed. It's too bad for them (and you)
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Originally posted by TheFireLexus
What does being bigger than the rest of the girls have to do with her CHOOSING to follow her own path? Why are you so annoyed that people support her? 
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You can't read. You're being a mess on five different threads at the same time congrats.
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Originally posted by Dominiqtrix
It's like 99% of the people here either lack basic reading comprehension skills or didn't even open the article, only read these topics on first page that are making it seem like this article exposed Camila when in fact had several points backing her statement and calling out 5H.
No, she's not going against LA Reid and Epic and they're not backing 5H. In fact, it says Epic is investing heavily in Camila's solo career and has been sending her to studio sessions with top producers like Benny Blanco and Diplo and they might not even give the other 4 a third album.
Billboard's source says Camila did go to sit-downs with a therapist but they became a scenario of 4 against 1 and were very unproductive. It also says she instead opted to have one-on-one conversations with each member during their tour bc that was more effective than group conversations.
She couldn't stay in the group if she still wanted to make solo music: "The group's management made it clear that if she wanted to make any more solo music, it wouldn't work for them”
It also points out the massive decline of TMG on radio after the way they horribly handled the announcement and it questions if 5H is getting backlash, not Camila like y'all say.
It also mentions jealousy going on in the group and how Camila was blindsided by their statement.
And to finish, something to get y'all mad:
"One thing that isn't being debated, however, is Cabello's potential as a breakout star. While it's not unusual for one member of a group to try his or her hand at a solo career -- even while still attached to the group, as Beyoncé did while still in Destiny's Child -- it is rather uncommon for someone to stand out in a collective as much as Cabello has over the past years. In terms of collaborations, her top 20 hit with Mendes highlighted Cabello's breathy delivery, while her authoritative turn on Machine Gun Kelly's "Bad Things” launched the fledgling rapper into the Hot 100 top 10. Yet Cabello has also demonstrated -- through her hilariously self-deprecating Snapchat antics, revealing interview quotes and intimate interactions with her 3.2 million Twitter followers -- a superstar's knack for connecting with fans and standing out from her surroundings."
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Originally posted by Marla Singer
I just realised that all these girls auditioned to be solo artists on X Factor. So being in a girl group was only ever a stepping stone for any of them who was serious about wanting to be a solo artist. So I kind of have to respect Camila for sticking to her guns and serving her time on the group before moving on to what she really wanted.
It kind of makes me think the other girls don't have the same ~artistic integrity~ Camila does and only care about being famous, even if that fame is part of a group because that's better than being solo and not famous. Camila is risking losing that fame by leaving the group and going solo because that's what she really wanted to do all along. Good for her!
If you think I'm wrong, ask yourself: would the other girls still be staying in the group together if they never got signed after X Factor? If they never had a hit? 
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This tea tho
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People barely know her. Good luck with that career of yours, Camila.
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