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News: Jill Stein talks about post election, Hillary & Trump, etc.
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Jill Stein talks about post election, Hillary & Trump, etc.
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Why did Hillary Clinton, the odds on favorite, backed by the establishment, lose this election?
Jill Stein: Hillary Clinton wasn’t the only one who lost the election. The American people were the real losers, in an election that offered voters a lose-lose proposition from the outset. The distressing outcome reflects the convergence of a toxic election, a ruthless economy, a corrupt media establishment, and a predatory political system.
The result was not a triumph for anyone, including Donald Trump, whose supporters were largely voting against Hillary Clinton and the political establishment, rather than for him. Over 80% of Americans were disgusted by the election, in which the two most disliked, untrusted presidential candidates in history were rammed down our throats. 76% of voters were screaming for debates to include Gary Johnson and myself, so they could learn about other choices and hear real issues debated, like war, austerity, rigged corporate trade deals, living wages, mass incarceration and surveillance, healthcare and higher education as human rights, climate catastrophe and generational debt. Yet the media faithfully circled the wagons around the political establishment. In the end, 72% of voters knew essentially nothing about our insurgent Green Party campaign. It’s hardly surprising this hyper-corrupt election came to a bad end.
While Hillary Clinton actually won the popular vote, she lost critical support, and ultimately the election, because her campaign represented the elite neoliberal establishment in a year when voters were clamoring for change. Working people hurt by the hollowing out of the U.S. economy saw her as more interested in serving Wall Street than helping Main Street. Her campaign failed to dispel widespread feelings that the Clintons were awash in cronyism, corruption and dishonesty. To many Americans across the political spectrum, she came to symbolize everything that is wrong with Washington DC.
Nefarious strategy within the Democratic National Committee also contributed to the Democrats’ loss, including the secret promotion of Donald Trump to give Clinton a supposedly beatable extremist opponent, and the sabotage of Bernie Sanders, who by all indications would have handily beaten Donald Trump.
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On history in the Democratic Party of blaming the Greens for their losses
Despite disinformation from Democratic Party operatives, third parties did not contribute to Clinton’s loss. 61% of Green Party voters would have stayed home given the choice of only Trump and Clinton. 14% of Green voters would otherwise have voted for Trump, and 25% for Clinton. So in the absence of our campaign, not one state would have flipped into Clinton’s camp. Gary Johnson’s votes would have enabled a Clinton victory only in Michigan, whose 16 electoral votes would not have changed the outcome of the election.
Those who are railing against third parties as the source of Trump’s victory are flat wrong, mathematically and politically. Silencing opposition voices is not a solution for a democracy on life support. To the contrary, we need more voices, especially voices not financed and controlled by oligarchy. And we need a voting system that liberates people to vote their values not their fears. Democracy is not a question of who do we hate the most. It needs an affirmative vision, a moral compass. For that, we need the simple fix of ranked choice voting, a system used in cities across the U.S. and just adopted by the state of Maine. It lets you rank your choices, and if your first choice loses, your vote is automatically reassigned to your second choice. This ends the prevailing politics of fear, that has brought us once again, everything we were afraid of.
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What kind of presidency should the world expect from President Trump?
In the first week of the Trump transition, we’ve seen enough to give warning that many of his worst promises will be fulfilled. His appointments and leading contenders, including white nationalist Steven Bannon, anti-democratic Rudy Giuliani, neocon John Bolton, gun-toting Sarah Palin, and climate denier Myron Ebell, give all the notice needed that it’s time to begin mobilizing now for the world we deserve. All the more so, because Donald Trump’s ascendancy is part of a global proto-fascist movement growing out of the economic misery from neoliberalism and end stage capitalism: financial deregulation, abusive corporate trade agreements, obscene economic disparities, endless war, climate catastrophe and the growing refugee crises.
It’s critical we build a mass mobilization, in the U.S. and beyond, to advance a unifying, radical progressive agenda to put people, planet and peace over profit. This is the only solution to the misery of neoliberalism.
As we mobilize, we must be mindful of the power we have to change history, remembering the adage that the biggest way people give up power is by not knowing we have it to start with. It’s time to invoke the courage of the social movements throughout history, like the resistance to the oppression and corruption of the Nixon administration, where we the people mobilized to bring the troops home from Vietnam, to create the EPA and OSHA, to pass the Clean Water and Clean Air Acts, and to win women’s right to chose from a conservative Supreme Court. At the time we were mobilized by the military draft, threatening the lives of our brothers. Now we have as much reason to be mobilized by the threat to our lives from the climate crisis, racist violence, endless war and its blowback, and generational debt.
The clock is ticking, as it has been for years. Now perhaps louder, and faster. More than ever, it’s time to reject the lesser evil and fight for the greater good like our lives depend on it. Because in fact they do.
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Ready for her 'Lemonade' era, Hold up, they don't love you like I love you.
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didn't read and was just in a coma for 3 weeks but can't believe jill just won the election
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14% of Green voters would otherwise have voted for Trump
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Woah
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The clock is ticking, as it has been for years. Now perhaps louder, and faster. More than ever, it’s time to reject the lesser evil and fight for the greater good like our lives depend on it. Because in fact they do.
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She comes off as rather intelligent here. Maybe I stop bashing her so much.
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Despite what she's doing now, doesn't seem like she's gained any respect for Hillary
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Not a single lie detected tbh
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Originally posted by T.C
Despite what she's doing now, doesn't seem like she's gained any respect for Hillary
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Because she acknowledges that Hillary was always the lesser of the two evils, and that Trump/Pence will do irreparable harm to not only our country, but to the world at large. Especially with regards to the environment, which is a big item on the Green Party's platform.
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Because she acknowledges that Hillary was always the lesser of the two evils, and that Trump/Pence will do irreparable harm to not only our country, but to the world at large. Especially with regards to the environment, which is a big item on the Green Party's platform.
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Nah sis, she legit said Hillary could start WW3
You're saying she would rather WW3 than a Trump presidency?
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I really hope she shuts the **** up and descends into irrelevance
(After the recount is concluded)
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Originally posted by T.C
Nah sis, she legit said Hillary could start WW3
You're saying she would rather WW3 than a Trump presidency?
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You think Trump won't?
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
You think Trump won't?
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It's not about what i think, am quoting Jill the Queen.
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