[LuLuDrops]

Cruz made a quip at Obama and someone responded with:

lol funny joke dude here's another one trump called ur wife ugly then said your dad killed JFK and you endorsed him and begged for a job

The lashing

[LuLuDrops]

Ana Navarro To Trump: Stop Fighting Broadway, Start Fighting White Supremacists http://dlvr.it/MkNyCf

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Raster

Biden might have a shady record but he's so charismatic that it doesn't matter much

Paul Ryan won the VP debate. Biden only shines when unchallenged.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

So if Hillary had won we'd keep the status quo candidate-wise, if Bernie had won we'd stay with his type, but what if both lost against Trump? What kind of candidate would we pick then?

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

If (or when) both lose, we'll come up with the conclusion that it was never the candidates' fault?

Exactly. Two different kinds of candidates. I asked this yesterday. Where possibly could the party do without losing a core of the support?

And it is the candidate's fault. Not the gaffes, but their positions. Establishment? Lost. Reason: Status quo

Outsider? Lost. Reason: Socialist. You know damn well that argument is coming if he loses again.

[Raster]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Paul Ryan won the VP debate. Biden only shines when unchallenged.

He talked down to Paul Ryan like he was a chid Biden easily won that debate tbh

[Lebanese Dude]

People need to stop blaming Hillary on her loss as if Trump didn't have his larger share of problems.

The difference is that the conservative folks fell in line while the liberals ****ed around.

Case in point: If only 30% of Stein's supporters (who are most likely Democrats who were pulling a bitch fit) voted Clinton in the dust belt, the results would be far closer and there would be a bigger cause for a recount.

Take a lesson from this. Liberals need to stop being naive fools.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Raster

He talked down to Paul Ryan like he was a chid Biden easily won that debate tbh

Yeah all the polls said Biden one. But like does that even batter this decade anymore?

Hillary seemed to have won every debate, and still lost. Unprecedented.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Raster

He talked down to Paul Ryan like he was a chid Biden easily won that debate tbh

What? All Biden did was laugh like a crazy person. Paul won all the polls.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

What? All Biden did was laugh like a crazy person. Paul won all the polls.

No he did not. And yes Biden would be such a good candidate for 2020. I say to this day it was never about the establishment. This was a FU to Bill and Hillary, and a FU to minorities.

Biden knows how to talk to white people unlike Hillary.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by King Maxx

No he did not.

Do you ever get real?

According to the CNN poll of independents, Paul Ryan won the debate, 48% to 44%. The same poll showed that people who watched the debate believed that Paul Ryan expressed himself better than Joe Biden, 50%-41%. An NBC poll of 435 uncommitted voters after the debate showed Paul Ryan winning with 63% to 31%. CNBC had it 56% to 36%, again with Paul Ryan coming out on top. Even the Danville Advocate Messenger had Paul Ryan on top at the end of the day, attracting 56% to Biden's 41%.

Jesus

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Do you ever get real?



Jesus

A CBS poll of uncommitted voters found that 50% of those viewers thought Biden did better, 31% thought Ryan did better, and 19% thought they tied.[39] A Reuters poll indicated Biden the superior candidate, 42% to 35% with 23% undecided or believing they tied.[40] A CNN poll of debate watchers found that 48% of viewers believed Ryan had done better, 44% believed Biden had done better, and 8% believed they tied or had no opinion; CNN noted that the debate audience polled was about eight percentage points more Republican than the general population.[41] Nate Silver's analysis of polling after the debate led to his concluding that, though both debaters performed adequately, Biden's performance helped to slow the momentum of the Romney campaign following the first presidential debate.

DO YOU EVER GET REAL? I don't know why you keep coming for me or my intelligence, but it's weird.

[Meh]

Originally posted by Lebanese Dude

People need to stop blaming Hillary on her loss as if Trump didn't have his larger share of problems.

The difference is that the conservative folks fell in line while the liberals ****ed around.

Case in point: If only 30% of Stein's supporters (who are most likely Democrats who were pulling a bitch fit) voted Clinton in the dust belt, the results would be far closer and there would be a bigger cause for a recount.

Take a lesson from this. Liberals need to stop being naive fools.

Funny you say this, because Jill Stein will file for a recount in WI, MI, and PA - if she can raise the money.

[Lord Blackout]

The RNC even made an ad out of it

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by King Maxx

DO YOU EVER GET REAL? I don't know why you keep coming for me or my intelligence, but it's weird.

So, basically, Biden won ONE poll? Way to prove me wrong.
Here's a bonus.

A new Pew poll of registered voters shows that independent voters who tuned into the vice presidential debate last Thursday preferred Paul Ryan to Joe Biden by an 11-point margin:

Biden did not win that debate.

[Raster]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

The RNC even made an ad out of it

good thing people don't care about that, otherwise Trump's horrendous debate stage antics would have sunk him

Paul Ryan having 0 charisma helped too

[ShouldersSideways]

Originally posted by Meh

Funny you say this, because Jill Stein will file for a recount in WI, MI, and PA - if she can raise the money.

wait

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Raster

good thing people don't care about that, otherwise Trump's horrendous debate stage antics would have sunk him

Paul Ryan having 0 charisma helped too

Yeah but democrats are not republicans. We have higher standards.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

So, basically, Biden won ONE poll? Way to prove me wrong.
Here's a bonus.

Biden did not win that debate.

That was four polls+Nate Silver's analysis of the polls after his debate performance.

Keep being anti-everything I say though. Love the attention.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by King Maxx

That was four polls+Nate Silver's analysis of the polls after his debate.

Keep being anti-everything I say though. Love the attention.

Yeah, 2 of which went to Ryan lol.

2 polls for Biden
6 polls for Paul

No one cares about Nate Silver. Everyone knows the Obama campaign took a hit in 2012 with the debates.

[Lord Blackout]

I'm sorry if I come off as aggressive but I do not want Biden as the nominee. It'll just be a trap when people of color and progressives dump him once his dirty past is under the microscope. Let's not go with a losing strategy.

Let's primary the candidates and see if we can end up with an Obama; a real democrat with no baggage that both longtime democrats and new coalitions can comfortably get behind.