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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by slw84
Conservatives have taken the Ls way better than the liberals.
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After Obama was elected - in a landslide, both popular vote AND electoral college - Republican leaders came out and said their #1 priority was to make his first term unsuccessful so that he couldn't get re-elected. Not working together. Not finding common ground. Not even standing up for their policies. But making sure the new president was a failure. That is the definition of unpatriotic and un-American.
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
There you go. You're only 17. Still cute and naive.
You'll thank your parents in 10 years.  I mean it.
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Don't be so condescending!
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
We're talking about PA in specific. But yes, Hillary won the popular vote but that's because CA and NY hold so much population than the rest of the country. That's why it has 55 seats. and NY has 29.
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I mean if you really wanna talk you'll know that if all things were actually equal CA would have far more electoral votes than 55.
But I already know you don't wanna really talk.
Because then we'd have to talk about how they've elected someone who doesn't wanna be there. How even in the 'great victory' for the 'silent majority' he still got less votes then her. And how the man will literally have zero excuses for his future failings and will undoubtedly achieve less with a fully cooperative congress (and soon to be SCOTUS) than Obama did with a hostile congress.
But we aren't gonna talk about that are we?
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by slw84
So millennials is the excuse...mmkay.
Not sure why you are comparing oranges to tangerines but racism will never be over just like racism is not a conservative thing.
Plenty of racism in the liberal department as well.
Conservatives have taken the Ls way better than the liberals.
Texas isn't trying to separate itself from the rest of the country back in 2008 and 2012 (unless I'm missing the right research)
I'm not sure what protests starting before the popular vote is supposed to achieve but ok...
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There are racists in the liberal department. Thank you Professor Obvious.
Girl you think the whole of California actually want to separate?
Besides http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/us...tion.html?_r=0
Anyway the point of these protests is to express dismay at the result and possible future. If you're not down with that, that's cool too.
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Member Since: 10/22/2007
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
Continuation from my comeback post: http://atrl.net/?p=37068140
5. Trump won  I am floored. WW3 cancelled, order and peace restored.  Protesters will always exists. And if Trump loses, there will be protests from the Republican side as well. So it goes both sides.
6. Hillary has always had my respect, even though I am a Trump supporter. Bernie the communist is the real enemy. I have been consistent since Day 1 that I am okay with either Trump or Hillary because my ideologies matches with Hillary and Trump.
7. Gheys, I know you're all scared but please be assured that Trump is okay! You're all 18-23, so you're still cute and naive  , thus it's understandable to feel scared because right now social justice is most important to you.
But as you grow older and find yourself into adulthood, you're going to finish college and get a degree ( For the LOVE of God please NEVER study useless liberal and arts degrees, and gender studies.), hopefully find a six-figure job, and start paying taxes. Then your eyes will be opened and see the realities of the world that we are facing now, and you're going to understand the real reasons why people voted for who they voted for. If you remember, Randall was the MOST iconic apprentice and he was a smart, intelligent black man, and Trump even PRAISED the first transgender apprentice for her work and effort - I forgot her name, but yeah she was iconic!
8. It's a proven fact that the cycle persists. Younger people tend to be more liberal, but as they grow older, they become more and more conservative - because they start settling down, to raise families and instill good values of kindness and also hard work to their children. So I would bet $1000 that in the next 10 years, you guys will be very conservative, so this notion of "old people must die so there will be no more conservatives" is a bust. Shame on Zara for saying that.
And the children that we all give birth too will be the new breed of SJWs to test the republic and rebel against all that come against their beliefs. And thus, the cycle continues, and will always continue. |
stfu, not everyone on here is 18-23 who doesnt have a degree. lmfao, I am a financial auditor making good money and still paying a lot of tax without complaining. Speak for yourself, please.
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by T.C
Don't speak too soon darling.
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As if there isn't worse going on against Trump right now including what he claims was against Clinton except Trump they are reeling based off of the unexpected upset due to media lies so they are now challenging the electoral college purpose AFTER using prediction electoral maps to further their agenda and now 500 percent boost in interest to Impeach Trump.
What percentage existed in 2008 for obama...I'll wait
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Originally posted by imabadkid
Lol you are ALL over this thread. We get it, you don't Hilary, you don't libs, do you want a cookie or smth like
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Please do proper research.
ATRLers spent all year posting their POV and even disrespecting people using actual stats and not media biased driven inaccurate facts.
We get it, you all bought into the hype and was let down. Those that didn't buy into the hype have the right to speak on it. Especially when we presented facts that were torn to shreds by people that didn't want to deal in the harsh truth and wanted media propaganda to keep them at ease.
Also, I voted Dem in 2004, 2008 and 2012...
I used to be a lib before I became WOKE to what is truly going on.
As a middle class citizen, I'm feeling quite great this week.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Yndda
the thing is trump and his supporters were actually PLANNING to make a fuss if their beloved orange lost
some supporters were actually planning on assassinations and doing a coup d'état
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Who can forget Joe "grab the musket" Walsh.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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Originally posted by xxtinaxx
stfu, not everyone on here is 18-23 who doesnt have a degree. lmfao, I am a financial auditor making good money and still paying a lot of tax without complaining. Speak for yourself, please.
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Good for you! I'm glad you're making good money.
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
Posts: 3,218
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Originally posted by slw84
As if there isn't worse going on against Trump right now including what he claims was against Clinton except Trump they are reeling based off of the unexpected upset due to media lies so they are now challenging the electoral college purpose AFTER using prediction electoral maps to further their agenda and now 500 percent boost in interest to Impeach Trump.
What percentage existed in 2008 for obama...I'll wait
Please do proper research.
ATRLers spent all year posting their POV and even disrespecting people using actual stats and not media biased driven inaccurate facts.
We get it, you all bought into the hype and was let down. Those that didn't buy into the hype have the right to speak on it. Especially when we presented facts that were torn to shreds by people that didn't want to deal in the harsh truth and wanted media propaganda to keep them at ease.
Also, I voted Dem in 2004, 2008 and 2012...
I used to be a lib before I became WOKE to what is truly going on.
As a middle class citizen, I'm feeling quite great this week.
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Genuine question, what have you become woke to precisely?
I'm curious.
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by Dessy Fenix
There are racists in the liberal department. Thank you Professor Obvious.
Girl you think the whole of California actually want to separate?
Besides http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/16/us...tion.html?_r=0
Anyway the point of these protests is to express dismay at the result and possible future. If you're not down with that, that's cool too. |
I literally said I am all for peaceful protests...not for riots. Not for people seeking therapy for an election loss. Not people getting out of tests, projects and exams due to being distraught.
I WAS NOT coddled, pacified when Kerry lost. I still had to take my exams and be an adult in college and accept the facts.
Then again, media did not spend nearly as much effort spewing falsehoods to appease a majority and cover up a bad candidate they tried to protect so I UNDERSTAND that the stunning loss is causing things to be even MORE emotionally driven and I won't pretend that I don't recognize the difference...
But Clinton did this to herself and the media did this to you all.
the sooner we all move forward and unite for the betterment of America...the better things will be
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by slw84
As if there isn't worse going on against Trump right now including what he claims was against Clinton except Trump they are reeling based off of the unexpected upset due to media lies so they are now challenging the electoral college purpose AFTER using prediction electoral maps to further their agenda and now 500 percent boost in interest to Impeach Trump.
What percentage existed in 2008 for obama...I'll wait
Please do proper research.
ATRLers spent all year posting their POV and even disrespecting people using actual stats and not media biased driven inaccurate facts.
We get it, you all bought into the hype and was let down. Those that didn't buy into the hype have the right to speak on it. Especially when we presented facts that were torn to shreds by people that didn't want to deal in the harsh truth and wanted media propaganda to keep them at ease.
Also, I voted Dem in 2004, 2008 and 2012...
I used to be a lib before I became WOKE to what is truly going on.
As a middle class citizen, I'm feeling quite great this week.
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Well I hope you'll feel great when your taxes are raised. And when co2 emissions go through the roof. And when social security is privatized. And the clock is turned back on key social issues.
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Member Since: 6/29/2012
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Originally posted by slw84
I don't think anyone on the right is scared or worried about people that are being hypocritical in their reactions to the trump win at all.
I mean people are taking off days of work (those that are working), kids are getting out of mid terms and people are not respectfully protesting more than they are rioting.
they are in strong denial THINKING they are achieving something by saying not my president and wanting a change in the use of the electoral college when they were using the map projections when Hillary was in favor (by BS media outlets falsehoods reports)
The oversensitivity and hard fall was based on the pedestal media put on them for feeding them what they wanted.
Imagine if this occurred when Obama won in 2008 and 2012.
Consersatives took their Ls more like a boss than Liberals are now.
Conservatives have no reason to be worried about people that don't even have the stability to take a loss...much less think they are going to " make this presidency hard"
Chile please
can't even have the emotional strength to deal with the harsh facts yet that empty threat is suppose to achieve chills.
more like thrills..cuz I'm laughing
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You're presenting me opinions by speaking on behalf of all conservatives, not facts so I will disagree.
The protests already have Trump whining. Whew these next four years are gonna be fun.
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Well I hope you'll feel great when your taxes are raised. And when co2 emissions go through the roof. And when social security is privatized. And the clock is turned back on key social issues.
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EDIT: Deleted. Apologies.
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
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Originally posted by midnightdawn
She hadn't been to Pennsylvania for months and loses it by 1%. She loses Michigan by 0.3%. And Wisconsin by less than 1%. Flip those and she wins. I hope her strategists get dragged in the post election reports. Apparently Bill was telling them she needed to work harder with white rust belt voters, and they laughed at him and said he was stuck in the 90's. Even Michael Moore was on tv saying this would happen. But her campaign insisted it was all fine.
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I can see why they wouldn't put an emphasis on the rust belt voters, but they could have at least gone and talked to them a couple of times. Her campaign was tone deaf. The Trump campaign clearly had a more sophisticated data operation than they were letting on. They knew just what they were doing and pulled off the greatest political upset of the century. 
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by Mitch.
Genuine question, what have you become woke to precisely?
I'm curious.
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I could write a book but I will just give tibdits.
Democratic policies, corruption and fraud, breaking the generational stigma/curse that i am forced to vote Democrat because my family has for the past few generations, understanding the media propaganda influence in politics.
If I knew THEN what i know NOW...I might not be working for a federal agency
Sure I graduated magna *** laude in may 2006, had 6 offers and began a job in June 2006 and worked in 3 different gov't agencies over the course of 10 years; however, I SEE exactly why anger exists against the establishment, overregulation tactics, bureaucracy and horrible incentives in the black community to stay below the threshold and accept something for nothing.
Essentially by 2002 I became an adult but was an uninformed (BY CHOICE) person on the world and then in 2012 timeframe after I went to Afghanistan and Kuwait for a special project for a month I had a new outlook on life and began to do my research and use my critical thinking skills to challenge the beliefs i inherited from misinformed family, friends and culture.
I became an individual with my own my and POV.
now this doesn't mean others haven't had similar experiences and decided to go from conservative to liberal but it does mean that life experience and being flexible and open minded will allow you to LEARN AND GROW
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Member Since: 5/15/2009
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Maybe some of you will lose your liberal mindsets when you make something out of your lives. Maybe it'll go away when you work hard to support yourself and recognize the struggle. Maybe it'll go away when you work hard to earn something, and see it taken away from you so quickly. This entitlement you're all so used to is not reality. It's worrisome that so many feel entitled to always get what they want... that's not how life works and never will be.
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Member Since: 12/22/2011
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Originally posted by Mitch.
Lmao sis don't bother, it's a 32 year old on ATRL, it clearly gave up caring a long time ago.
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I wish you well...hopefully the Trump administration will help you achieve the credentials and resume that I have which ironically didn't occur when I was paying my dues working hard in undergrad and grad.
Now 108k annually, secure job/benefits working from home on all weekdays (I don't work weekends) except Wednesday is my outcome.
Too blessed to be pressed and I wish everyone luck in their future endeavors.
I remain with my POV and am mature enough to respect others without the need to make attacks.
the ideals of a confident, secure successful and courageous person.
It humbles me
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
Posts: 3,218
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Originally posted by slw84
I could write a book but I will just give tibdits.
Democratic policies, corruption and fraud, breaking the generational stigma/curse that i am forced to vote Democrat because my family has for the past few generations, understanding the media propaganda influence in politics.
If I knew THEN what i know NOW...I might not be working for a federal agency
Sure I graduated magna *** laude in may 2006, had 6 offers and began a job in June 2006 and worked in 3 different gov't agencies over the course of 10 years; however, I SEE exactly why anger exists against the establishment, overregulation tactics, bureaucracy and horrible incentives in the black community to stay below the threshold and accept something for nothing.
Essentially by 2002 I became an adult but was an uninformed (BY CHOICE) person on the world and then in 2012 timeframe after I went to Afghanistan and Kuwait for a special project for a month I had a new outlook on life and began to do my research and use my critical thinking skills to challenge the beliefs i inherited from misinformed family, friends and culture.
I became an individual with my own my and POV.
now this doesn't mean others haven't had similar experiences and decided to go from conservative to liberal but it does mean that life experience and being flexible and open minded will allow you to LEARN AND GROW
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Cute resumé.
If only you didn't spend your time being condescending towards teenagers genuinely fearful of their rights and families.
But what the **** do I know, I didn't graduate magna *** laude.
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I will delete the other post though, it was rude. Apologies.
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Member Since: 10/22/2007
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I said before and am saying it again now. Only white people would think that social justice isnt a big deal. I am an Asian woman who is married to a white man, but still have to endure racism from other white people. Despite how white classmates treated me every time we did group works, I still proved them wrong that white people weren't superior than other races. Every time I go out with my husband, I always have to receive disgusting and mean looks from those white women.
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