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Discussion: Why has Madonna outlasted her peers?
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Originally posted by Travis Bickle
That Celine album is comparable with MDNA (sold 2M).
But it's true she outlasted her peers and I hope her next album does well for her. She deserves it 
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Céline didn't have Super Bowl promotion for her last English album. Compared to Madonna, she barely had any promotion, so her sales are very impressive.
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Originally posted by Popboi.
Céline's was released way before...
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They were released a little over a year apart. That's not a huge gap, and Céline had less promotion than MDNA and RH.
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
Global on here means popular in the US (not even the whole continent of North America) and in parts of western and central Europe (not even the whole continent).
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WELP.
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
Global on here means popular in the US (not even the whole continent of North America) and in parts of western and central Europe (not even the whole continent).
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How limited.
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why are the jj stans even in here?
THE queen of Pop is the best-selling female artist of all time...and this title is only based on ha records.
please don't let me start with ha tours, fashion lines, merch, parfums, cosmetics etc.....
plus she's adopted 2 kids from africa instead of stealing money from the poorest continent in the world while touring there.
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Originally posted by Lover
why are the jj stans even in here?
THE queen of Pop is the best-selling female artist of all time...and this title is only based on ha records.
please don't let me start with ha tours, fashion lines, merch, parfums, cosmetics etc.....
plus she's adopted 2 kids from africa instead of stealing money from the poorest continent in the world while touring there.
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This. I absolutely love Janet, I even stan, but they really gotta go. Rebel Heart went #1 in more countries than UB went top ten :0
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MJ, Whitney, Prince, Janet, Mariah, Celine...all very popular artists on the African continent. Madgie? Not so much.
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Originally posted by The Second Coming
Finally the MJ sister and Africa stans grace with their stale presence the thread  |
It took him a while but that one stan and his two dupes finally arrived!
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
Can an artist really be "global" if they aren't popular on a continent that has more than 10% of the world's population?
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Yes. Yes they can.  Mess. Stay perched in here tho.
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Originally posted by Lover
why are the jj stans even in here?
THE queen of Pop is the best-selling female artist of all time...and this title is only based on ha records.
please don't let me start with ha tours, fashion lines, merch, parfums, cosmetics etc.....
plus she's adopted 2 kids from africa instead of stealing money from the poorest continent in the world while touring there.
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Chimier and Mr. Wonder are not Janet stans. And I've denounced all organized stan groups. Madonna adopting 2 kids from Africa does not mean people here like her, or want to see her live. So I don't understand the correlation. In fact, her stealing that boy is the only time she made local news here. And the last time Janet toured Africa was in 2011, where she completed 3 sold-out shows. No money was stolen. 
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Because she is a legend, has always set trends and keeps re-inventing her image and sound.
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Originally posted by The Second Coming
Finally the MJ sister and Africa stans grace with their stale presence the thread |
"Africa stans"- You sound as smart as Raven Symone. Sit this one out.
But how nice that you were waiting on us. Shame we can't say the same for you.
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Because being talented and being global always wins
Don't let these JJ stans fool you into thinking otherwise, just because according to them Madonna is not popular in... Africa 
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Originally posted by mrmikefern
It took him a while but that one stan and his two dupes finally arrived!
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You can't just exclude the second most populous continent on the planet and still say "global". 
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Originally posted by Chimier
MJ, Whitney, Prince, Janet, Mariah, Celine...all very popular artists on the African continent. Madgie? Not so much.
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Barbra Streisand, Kenny G, James Brown, are all popular acts as well. Even Queen and ABBA enjoyed a bit of success here.
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The same 3 posters are still spouting the same thing?
Ever heard of going outside and getting some air?
It's tiring at this point.
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Originally posted by Mr. Wonder
You can't just exclude the second most populous continent on the planet and still say "global". |
If one is a commercial artist they can do just that. That HUGE continent contains not one major music market.
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Originally posted by Lover
why are the jj stans even in here?
THE queen of Pop is the best-selling female artist of all time...and this title is only based on ha records.
please don't let me start with ha tours, fashion lines, merch, parfums, cosmetics etc.....
plus she's adopted 2 kids from africa instead of stealing money from the poorest continent in the world while touring there.
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I don't blame them. It's not like their faves have anything left apart from marrying a millionaire to economically maintain her and cancelling tours due to not demand or rotting in their coffins. Glad Madonna serves also as a therapeutical tool to let their anger and frustration out. Queen of Pop not only outlived all her local peers but she is also the ultimate charity saint of Africa.
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LMAO at this thread.
The only peer who's on par with Madonna is Celine Dion. The rest are just a seasonal hit (Mariah) or EXTREMELY frontloaded flops (Janet, I love her but COME ON). Whitney and Mj are rotting six feet under so they are out of the question.
And can we stop adding African countries to the whole global thing? They just don't matter that much sales wise, plus they have bigger problems to worry about Seriously no one cares if Janet sold more than Madonna in BoogaBoogaLand.
For the record, Madonna has been referenced and her image has been used in documentaries shot in Africa, plus she is the most liked singer in Malawi, you know, an African country
In short:
Celine: Resilient queen, may top Madonna tbh.
Madonna: Relatively succesful.
Mariah: A big flop with her talent tainted.
Jancel: Huge flop.
Whitney:
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Originally posted by The Second Coming
With her last album selling 1M copies WW, a $170M grossing tour, 200M views from her last third single, being the 3rd top musician on Forbes (the fact that 34 years after her debut she made more than Rihanna, Beyonce, Katy, Bieber and Drake and she is also above other veterans like AC/DC, The Rolling and also others that didn't even make the list like Mariah, Janet, Kylie, Cyndi, Gaga, Cher etc etc), making press and headlines nonstop and getting her haters perched and fuming like this thread proves, the Queen of Pop even outlast some of the 10's peers. Talent really prevails.
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Madonna's longevity is so remarkable
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Madonna has been over since 2012 (I'm being generous) and only became semi-relevant for molesting KING Drake on stage.
ATRL is the only place that thinks otherwise.
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Originally posted by C.Damen
The same 3 posters are still spouting the same thing?
Ever heard of going outside and getting some air?
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Don't need to. I can just open the window.
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Originally posted by mrmikefern
If one is a commercial artist they can do just that. That HUGE continent contains not one major music market.
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Well yeah if you're not popular here. 
Celine, Prince, Sharkira, James Brown, Ciara, Beyonce, MJ, Janet, Whitney, Rihanna (just recently, but not as much), Gaga, and plenty others have had no problem breaking into the African market.
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