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This is bigger than Hillary or Bernie. This is about democracy and you're talmbout let it go? Put down the stan goggles for a min.
If there is an issue with the ballots, then they need to fix it asap in time for future elections.
But ain't nothing they can do now. And Bernie supporters are using it to discredit Hillary's win which is why I put what I put.
She could've been unviable there and still win the nomination. Let's move on to bigger issues. You only post this one topic like any of us can do anything about it. You're attempts at proving this is very obvious.
I'm a poll worker and Bernie flopped, period - he even lost San Francisco of all places. Older Latinos who make up a HUGE chunk of the electorate voted for Hillary and pined for the 90s Clinton days. Their minds were already made up as soon as she announced her candidacy as well as older Asians, Blacks, etc.
We are trained to let Independents vote and even to ask several times if they want to vote in the Democratic primary, yes even with Independents (NPPs) allowed, Bern had a huge deficit - why? Because he banked on the youth who are known for abysmal turnouts. Not to mention the silliest questions being asked in line like "Can I register today? Can I switch parties?"
Online registration has existed for ages and the closing period was only a few days before the primary. If they don't know their shhh that's their problem and according to what I heard Bernie's emails didn't help, Hillary's reminded people of registration deadlines and links to register. In the end the bulk of his wins were the least populated/whitest counties (see the second sentence in the first paragraph to know why )
It always takes ages to count the CA ballots because we are the most populated state in the country. We're at 700,000 provisional/mail-ins left and those are last because we have to make sure that the people were A. Even registered to vote and B. That they're actually a Democrat/Independent since Republicans et al can't vote in the Democratic primary, naturally. A few won't get counted, but most will. There's no guarantee Bernie can make grounds even then.
Duh, poll workers are volunteers, you don't need to be a politician to be one, it's why they're called workers
TYT can keep reaching, but Hillary won CA in 2008 against Obama even when he ate at her AA vote, so I don't know why they are surprised that she slayed when AA and all other minorities went in droves to Hillary a second time, even more than before since she's actually known here for decades and there's no minority candidate running against her.
You only post this one topic like any of us can do anything about it.
What does this even mean? What can any of you do about anything in this election aside from vote? Yet y'all been discussing VPs selections for the past few pages. Are you gonna be doing the pickings?... I mean if this conversation makes you uncomfortable, you didn't have to quote me
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If there is an issue with the ballots, then they need to fix it asap in time for future elections.
Now if this was your 1st response, I would have respected you more.
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But ain't nothing they can do now.
Well yes, there is. There can be a recount.
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And Bernie supporters are using it to discredit Hillary's win which is why I put what I put.
It doesn't matter what candidate you support, every vote matters, that's how should democracy works. And I don't believe there is credit in a miscarried election.
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She could've been unviable there and still win the nomination. Let's move on to bigger issues.
Bigger issues like? Democracy starts from the vote. This is some minor issue that can be shrugged off
She's going to pick Warren. I will be expecting TYT's response video after they already accused Hillary being bought because she won't pick Warren since big money doesn't want her. Hillary's campaign sent out an email letter from Warren about why electing Hillary is important. Hillary's campaign has also bragged a bunch about Warren's endorsement, and they don't say a word about Kaine or Castro. They're clearly hyping up Warren to the base.
Yeah TYT and ST will still come for her neck as usual, saying she's doing this to pander to Bernie's base, she's doing this to limit Warren's influence in the senate, etc. Hell, Kyle already is coming for Elizabeth by calling her a watered down Bernie because of her endorsement of Hillary.
Even if there are discrepancies, which I hope are dealt with no matter who the votes go to, it still doesn't stave off her 450,000 vote lead. If anything, the results would change by only a few thousand (or less).
In the end, a recount is going to give a similar result: Hillary winning. Older minorities (who actually get off twitter and vote) and some of the youth because not everyone under 30 is a Bernster, won it for her.
The reason why those polls were off is simple: underpolling. Did they go to heavily Asian communities as much as white and Hispanic? Did they only ask questions in English in Spanish? How vast were the pollster teams with languages/areas that were covered in the most populous state?
I'm a poll worker and Bernie flopped, period - he even lost San Francisco of all places. Older Latinos who make up a HUGE chunk of the electorate voted for Hillary and pined for the 90s Clinton days. Their minds were already made up as soon as she announced her candidacy as well as older Asians, Blacks, etc.
We are trained to let Independents vote and even to ask several times if they want to vote in the Democratic primary, yes even with Independents (NPPs) allowed, Bern had a huge deficit - why? Because he banked on the youth who are known for abysmal turnouts. Not to mention the silliest questions being asked in line like "Can I register today? Can I switch parties?"
Online registration has existed for ages and the closing period was only a few days before the primary. If they don't know their shhh that's their problem and according to what I heard Bernie's emails didn't help, Hillary's reminded people of registration deadlines and links to register. In the end the bulk of his wins were the least populated/whitest counties (see the second sentence in the first paragraph to know why )
It always takes ages to count the CA ballots because we are the most populated state in the country. We're at 700,000 provisional/mail-ins left and those are last because we have to make sure that the people were A. Even registered to vote and B. That they're actually a Democrat/Independent since Republicans et al can't vote in the Democratic primary, naturally. A few won't get counted, but most will. There's no guarantee Bernie can make grounds even then.
Duh, poll workers are volunteers, you don't need to be a politician to be one, it's why they're called workers
TYT can keep reaching, but Hillary won CA in 2008 against Obama even when he ate at her AA vote, so I don't know why they are surprised that she slayed when AA and all other minorities went in droves to Hillary a second time, even more than before since she's actually known here for decades and there's no minority candidate running against her.
Again. Can we put down the stan goggles. Why did you write me an essay about why Hillary's more popular than Bernie? That's irrelevant. What's relevant is that the machines are outdated and hackable, NPP ballots were not counted, party registrations were changed for no apparent reason, voters were assigned VBM for no apparent reason and the list goes on. Maybe if it was just one issue it wouldn't be as bad. But people were disenfranchised every step of the way
Why do they keep peddling this idea that provisionals won't be counted AT ALL? If people messed up and gave provisionals instead of NPPs then that's a mistake, true but the ballot is counted either way. Provisionals are only nullified when the person isn't registered to vote or in this case a Republican. If someone doesn't have their vote by mail they can get a provisional and guess what? If they are a Democrat/NPP it'll be counted
Again. Can we put down the stan goggles. Why did you write me an essay about why Hillary's more popular than Bernie? That's irrelevant. What's relevant is that the machines are outdated and hackable, NPP ballots were not counted, party registrations were changed for no apparent reason, voters were assigned VBM for no apparent reason and the list goes on. Maybe if it was just one issue it wouldn't be as bad. But people were disenfranchised every step of the way
Sis, we get it. Every time Hillary wins there is "fraud." When Bernie wins, there is never fraud.
It's funny how Hillary supporters will judge "Bernsters" for sitting out the general election, but when it comes to the primaries it's no longer a big deal when votes aren't counted. Seems like you're only against voter disenfranchisement when it hurts your preferred candidate. How does that work?
The only fraud this election faced was in Arizona and the caucuses.
You can blame the Republicans for the former, and Bernie won the latter. So no maybe you should put your stan goggles down. But honestly, what is a Bernie Sanders anymore?
Why do they keep peddling this idea that provisionals won't be counted AT ALL? If people messed up and gave provisionals instead of NPPs then that's a mistake, true but the ballot is counted either way. Provisionals are only nullified when the person isn't registered to vote or in this case a Republican. If someone doesn't have their vote by mail they can get a provisional and guess what? If they are a Democrat/NPP it'll be counted
Party registrations glitched on voters by the masses tho? So they still will likely not be counted.
It's funny how Hillary supporters will judge "Bernsters" for sitting out the general election, but when it comes to the primaries it's no longer a big deal with votes aren't counted. Seems like you're only against voter disenfranchisement when it hurts your preferred candidate. How does that work?
Bernie supporters sitting out for the general election isn't "voter disenfranchisement."
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