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Poll: Bigger era so far: Lemonade or Views?
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Lemonade
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Views
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Y'all won't even know the name of the album in 5 years that included Hotline Bling or One Dance, don't be delusional
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Member Since: 4/16/2008
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Originally posted by pieuxvu
When will you haters stop using streaming as receipts?
Last year, Drake is the most streamed artist and he only earned $2M.
Bey made quality music so you have to pay to listen her music. Her $18 album is still #1 on Itunes and people is willing to pay $100-$300 to see her on tour.
She is making 5M+ per night = 5M singles already. And yet you guys using the single receipts and free streaming receipts against her? Is that the only things your fave has? To make your fave's carrer look better?
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Originally posted by pieuxvu
More revenue for who? Not the artists. That's why she is with Tidal.
Tour >>>>>>>>>>>> album sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> single sales >>>>>>>>>>>>>>streaming
Oh, and you think she cares about streaming to earn $2M per year? or sell 20M singles to earn $5M. She is busy making 5M+ per night, sorry.
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The haters are still trying?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Lemonade: huge tour, albums sales
Views: Single succes, Streaming
i think they are the biggestfemale and male of the year so far
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
Y'all won't even know the name of the album in 5 years that included Hotline Bling or One Dance, don't be delusional
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Memoribility /=/ Bigger.
There's albums that have sold 25 million copies decades ago nobody remembers. That doesn't mean they weren't big eras.
Views is all around huge – in hits, in sales, and in streams. Beyoncé has sales on par and that's it.
And touring has nothing to do with an album being bigger. Formation Tour was sold out in most places before we even had the album, and would've sold out regardless. And 85% of the songs performed at the Formation Tour aren't even on the LEMONADE album lmao.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Critically obviously Lemonade.
Commercially: equal.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by iHype.
Memoribility /=/ Bigger.
There's albums that have sold 25 million copies decades ago nobody remembers. That doesn't mean they weren't big eras.
Views is all around huge – in hits, in sales, and in streams. Beyoncé has sales on par and that's it.
And touring has nothing to do with an album being bigger. Formation Tour was sold out in most places before we even had the album, and would've sold out regardless. And 85% of the songs performed at the Formation Tour aren't even on the LEMONADE album lmao. |
Sure so there is a correlation between memoribility and the question of which era was bigger..
+ since we are talking about eras:
Aside from two global hits, the Views "era" has nothing memorable to offer. No memorable performances, no memorable music videos (creating visuals that are good to use for memes is not a factor in terms of having a memorable MV), no memorable moments.
Lemonade had the controversial MV for Formation, the SB performance of Formation, the movie that was a) critically acclaimed and b) spawned a worldwide debate whether Jay cheated on Bey, literally almost all songs were in the Top10 of Itunes, a feat that hasn't been achieved prior to the release of Lemonade.
Aside from streams for Hotline Bling and One Dance, Views is pretty forgettable.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
Sure so there is a correlation between memoribility and the question of which era was bigger..
+ since we are talking about eras:
Aside from two global hits, the Views "era" has nothing memorable to offer. No memorable performances, no memorable music videos (creating visuals that are good to use for memes is not a factor in terms of having a memorable MV), no memorable moments.
Lemonade had the controversial MV for Formation, the SB performance of Formation, the movie that was a) critically acclaimed and b) spawned a worldwide debate whether Jay cheated on Bey, literally almost all songs were in the Top10 of Itunes, a feat that hasn't been achieved prior to the release of Lemonade.
Aside from streams for Hotline Bling and One Dance, Views is pretty forgettable.
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Wtf does a memorable performance or memorable music video have to do with an era being bigger statistic wise?  You're literally just making up things to say LEMONADE.
Memorability has nothing to do with being bigger as I said.
If an album released in 1999 sold 20 million copies, and another released in 1999 sold 2 million copies but the latter is more remembered today that doesn't make it a more successful album. You can't just cancel out the fact it sold 18 million less because 'it has a memorable music video'.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Lemonade, it's earned more money.
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Member Since: 10/14/2011
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LEMONADE.
But if Drake can manage a WW sold out Stadium tour too this era then I will say Views with singles and streams being the tiebreaker. 
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by iHype.
Wtf does a memorable performance or memorable music video have to do with an era being bigger statistic wise? You're literally just making up things to say LEMONADE.
Memorability has nothing to do with being bigger as I said.
If an album released in 1999 sold 20 million copies, and another released in 1999 sold 2 million copies but the latter is more remembered today that doesn't make it a more successful album. You can't just cancel out the fact it sold 18 million less because 'it has a memorable music video'.
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The OP only asks which album is bigger and doesn't put it more precisely. And the Lemonade-ERA IS bigger, maybe not stats-wise, but it'll be remembered as more impactful.
You guys let yourselves be confused thanks to all that SPS crap. Let me break it down for you:
If this happened in 2012, Carly Rae Jepsen's Kiss wouldve been, according to you, one of the biggest albums of that year. Why? Well, Call me maybe's sales and streams wouldve been added to the album's "sales" just like Good Time.
Would you say only thanks to Call me Maybe that the Kiss-era was bigger than most eras that year, even though the GP would have no clue what the album was called because all they cared about in 2012 was Call Me Maybe, not the album Kiss.
Think about it. Views is not big at all, it just has 2 worldwide hits that literally sell the album. The album is already tanking unlike Lemonade.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Views in terms of album sales, streaming and singles.
Lemonade had good front loaded sales to bring it to #1 and amazingly stable for sales considering the price and streams considering its only on Tidal. Plus the tour itself is bigger than Summer Sixteen Tour for sure.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Not Beyonce fans bringing in touring to make it seem like a bigger era when drake hasn't even started touring 
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
Lemonade-ERA IS bigger, maybe not stats-wise
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So it's not bigger.
The OP is obviously talking stats, as his defense was "He's been #1 for several weeks in various countries with his album, plus he currently has the biggest song on the planet."
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You guys let yourselves be confused thanks to all that SPS crap. Let me break it down for you:
If this happened in 2012, Carly Rae Jepsen's Kiss wouldve been, according to you, one of the biggest albums of that year. Why? Well, Call me maybe's sales and streams wouldve been added to the album's "sales" just like Good Time.
Would you say only thanks to Call me Maybe that the Kiss-era was bigger than most eras that year, even though the GP would have no clue what the album was called because all they cared about in 2012 was Call Me Maybe, not the album Kiss.
Think about it. Views is not big at all, it just has 2 worldwide hits that literally sell the album. The album is already tanking unlike Lemonade.
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Views is selling on par with Lemonade, so how is he tanking?  He's ahead of her in US sales, and next to her in WW sales, and her album was released a week earlier.
It's doing 10x+ better in streams, and 10x+ better in singles performance. His era is the bigger one. The end.
And her music video and performance being memorable is debatable and literally isn't even something you can say will be remembered as a fact.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by iHype.
So it's not bigger.
The OP is obviously talking stats, as his defense was "He's been #1 for several weeks in various countries with his album, plus he currently has the biggest song on the planet."
Views is selling on par with Lemonade, so how is he tanking? He's ahead of her in US sales, and next to her in WW sales, and her album was released a week earlier.
It's doing 10x+ better in streams, and 10x+ better in singles performance. His era is the bigger one. The end.
And her music video and performance being memorable is debatable and literally isn't even something you can say will be remembered as a fact.
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again, I'm talking sales aka real money. You still don't seem to understand that "album streams" does not mean that millions of people are literally streaming the entire album every week.. They are mostly just streaming One Dance, Hotline Bling and maybe Too Good atm. Yet it is included in his "sales". This is exactly why I came up with the comparison to Kiss and Call me Maybe. But apparently this seems to be too complicated for you to understand or sth.
So according to you, Anti isn't tanking either since its release basically. Its sales are tragique, it can thank Work for holding it afloat like it did.
And that last part of your comment was trash and you know it. Formation was the most discussed MV this year and I know you know it. No need to troll. And the SB caused a national-wide frenzy with the politics arguing and the police threatening her to not protect her.. I mean..smh.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Views has more single success, but as an era Lemonade takes it by far.
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Member Since: 9/9/2012
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
again, I'm talking sales aka real money. You still don't seem to understand that "album streams" does not mean that millions of people are literally streaming the entire album every week.. They are mostly just streaming One Dance, Hotline Bling and maybe Too Good atm. Yet it is included in his "sales". This is exactly why I came up with the comparison to Kiss and Call me Maybe. But apparently this seems to be too complicated for you to understand or sth.
So according to you, Anti isn't tanking either since it's release basically. Its sales are tragique, it can thank Work for holding it afloat like it did.
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And streams and singles earn money too, stop being obviously bias.
People are streaming his entire album, as it got over 240 million streams first week and One Dance has only gotten 30 million streams in it's highest week.
Provide proof that people are only streaming One Dance and Hotline Bling. 
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by swissman
Views has more single success, but as an era Lemonade takes it by far.
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This.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Views is more successful and as of now is bigger.
If Bey promotes she's gonna scalp drake basically
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