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Fan Base: Lady Gaga
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by Giorgoc
Yeah but the way she's behaved has changed immensely.
She's always loved her fans and her idols but she's taken it to another level. She used to be fierce and fearless while now it feels like she's trying to become America's sweetheart.
It could possibly be that she's in a better state of mind right now, but I don't know... she doesn't feel like a pop icon anymore.
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You don't have to be an asshole to be a pop icon. Gaga's seemingly sweet because she's not performing her material. She's performing other people's songs and paying them respect.  Where's the disconnection? How is that a hard concept to grasp? It's simple logic.
What kind of narrow-minded mindset.
Gays and their fantasies... 
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Opacho
You don't have to be an asshole to be a pop icon. Gaga's seemingly sweet because she's not performing her material. She's performing other people's songs and paying them respect. Where's the disconnection? How is that a hard concept to grasp? It's simple logic.
What kind of narrow-minded mindset.
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First off, you're coming off a little mean.
I'm not even talking about performances. She just feels different. In her tweets, in her interviews, in everything.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Optimus
Hah. People did not dislike Judas because of its production, they hated it because of lyrics. And who wrote them? Gaga herself. Also, lets not forget that Judas is the most viewed video from the Btw era+ it was a semi hit in Europe. And Gaga has not been a factor there since it.
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People did dislike Judas because of its lyrics but also they disliked the song because it's just a trash song. There's really nothing more to it.
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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Originally posted by Giorgoc
Yeah but the way she's behaved has changed immensely.
She's always loved her fans and her idols but she's taken it to another level. She used to be fierce and fearless while now it feels like she's trying to become America's sweetheart.
It could possibly be that she's in a better state of mind right now, but I don't know... she doesn't feel like a pop icon anymore.
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She was even more adamant about loving her fans during BTW, though? She's kind of backed off from that uber LITTLE MONSTERS thing. But overall I think it's because she's grown up. It's not an image change, it's a person change. She's 30, she's engaged, she has her own home, etc. She can't be the same person forever.
She realized that she needed to mature a bit.
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Originally posted by Optimus
How the hell would you know that  Why wasnt Applause a bigger hit? Do you think that it was the production's fault or the weird not relatable lyrics?  |
I'd say it probably had more to do with the fact that Lady Gaga was enemy #1 in the pop world during that song's release, but it still sold more than RedOne's last song with Gaga and even peaked higher. 
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Originally posted by romonster
She keeps saying how she has albums and albums of finished unreleased material that she keeps playing around her friends so I don't know but it would be nice if we actually got to hear them at some point 
Yeah, the sound of the album definitely changed the second she started working with Mark Ronson in London |
I don't think she's allowed to release unreleased material unless the label gives her the go ahead. A lot of unreleased material is kept under lock and key in case something happens to an artist and a posthumous album needs to be released.
In other words, we'll get it when she dies.
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by Giorgoc
First off, you're coming off a little mean.
I'm not even talking about performances. She just feels different. In her tweets, in her interviews, in everything.
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It's not just you that feels that way, as I've seem the same thing being said on a lot of other fansites, but I think some of y'all are refusing to see that she has grown up. She can be the same wild party girl if she wants to be, but she's not gonna be doing that forever you know? In my opinion, her persona has strengthened because she knows how to channel other artists in a way that many cannot. But really she's in between an era so she's not giving "Gaga" she's just being who she wants to be.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Dämon
Anyway! RedOne was scrapped, his material will always sound super dated. Life's good; Life's great. Quality music is coming.
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Poker Face and Scheiße are RedOne material and do NOT sound dated
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Opacho
WHAT DID I SAY
Madonna's Like A Prayer is about blow jobs and in the video she burns crosses. It caused huge controversy, only it's actually a good song so it did well. It went #1  What's Judas' excuse? It was just too fast and Bad Romance 2.0. and people didn't eat the production. It was not radio friendly at ALL. RedOne's fault |
voilà
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to be honest though, if you look at his productions outside of gaga, it's really tragic
meanwhile, mark has bruno, amy, adele...
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wow this base is the pits. so much vitriol and bitterness over what
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Giorgoc
First off, you're coming off a little mean.
I'm not even talking about performances. She just feels different. In her tweets, in her interviews, in everything.
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She's 30 years old, she's engaged, she's been through the ends and out, the extreme highs and lowest of lows of the industry, she isn't suffering depression, an eating disorder, drug use or ****ed up relationships both personally and professional in her life. Why wouldn't she be completely different now?
At the end of the day, this is the happiest Gaga has ever been in her life, so it's kind of telling to be coming after her for it because you miss your old early 20s pop star who was battling many insecurities and demons that were being masked by her monstrous success.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
It's not just you that feels that way, as I've seem the same thing being said on a lot of other fansites, but I think some of y'all are refusing to see that she has grown up. She can be the same wild party girl if she wants to be, but she's not gonna be doing that forever you know? In my opinion, her persona has strengthened because she knows how to channel other artists in a way that many cannot. But really she's in between an era so she's not giving "Gaga" she's just being who she wants to be.
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Yeah I guess I'm just not ready for a mature Gaga yet.
I still love her and will always be a huge fan, I just wish she was more fun. Like at the Superbowl when she was dancing to random songs. That's a rare glimpse of the fun and youthful Gaga I really loved.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by Giorgoc
First off, you're coming off a little mean.
I'm not even talking about performances. She just feels different. In her tweets, in her interviews, in everything.
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Isn't that what you like?
Anyway, all the interviews she did were regarding either; her work with an 80 Yo man, her song about rape, her national anthem performance or American Horror Story? Did you expect her to be throwing f-bombs and talking about sex and dick in those interviews or am I missing something.
She feels different from her The Fame days cause she was a fake bimbo back then. Her whole shtick was an over-exaggerated act. She was a coked-up mess of a woman. It's been 7 years since then, if you don't expect a person in their early twenties to change in the span of 7-8 years then I honestly don't think there's a point in discussing this any further with you.
And what DD said, Judas flopped because it's a trash song. Period.
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Member Since: 8/7/2012
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Originally posted by GypsyLife
I just remembered reading on PopJustice months ago (by Mindtrappa actually) that Gaga and RedOne didn't hit it off while recording and set up a 2nd meeting to give it another try.
Reading what RedOne said about working with her I guess his information was right |
he said gaga's releasing in Q3, he seems to be reliable
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by Bang Up
I'd say it probably had more to do with the fact that Lady Gaga was enemy #1 in the pop world during that song's release, but it still sold more than RedOne's last song with Gaga and even peaked higher.
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Back in reality where the ordinary people do not spend their time searching on Google 'Katy perry vs Lady Gaga' or 'Applause vs Roar'. They hear songs o nthe radio, watch the videos on youtube and if they like the songs, they buy them. And Starships which is produced by RedOne has sold more than any Gaga song since 2011, Born This Way included
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93
It's not just you that feels that way, as I've seem the same thing being said on a lot of other fansites, but I think some of y'all are refusing to see that she has grown up. She can be the same wild party girl if she wants to be, but she's not gonna be doing that forever you know? In my opinion, her persona has strengthened because she knows how to channel other artists in a way that many cannot. But really she's in between an era so she's not giving "Gaga" she's just being who she wants to be.
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Yeah, it's important to note she's in between eras. For all we know, she might go back to being GAGA when the era begins, though I'm not holding my breath lol.
I get what people are saying about her "feeling different". I guess it doesn't bother me because I never really cared about her attitude. I think it's a silly thing to care about, personally.
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Originally posted by Optimus
Back in reality where the ordinary people do not spend their time searching on Google 'Katy perry vs Lady Gaga' or 'Applause vs Roar'. They hear songs o nthe radio, watch the videos on youtube and if they like the songs, they buy them. And Starships which is produced by RedOne has sold more than any Gaga song since 2011, Born This Way included |
Back in reality where the public listens to what the media says and tells them, Lady Gaga was no longer "cool", "invest-able", and was a "massive flop".
Do some research and you'll learn just how powerful media manipulation can be.
And now you're bringing up songs that aren't even Gaga's. Keep trying.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Solar
Poker Face and Scheiße are RedOne material and do NOT sound dated
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IKR THE DELUSION Scheiße is iconic
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Originally posted by REALiTi
She's 30 years old, she's engaged, she's been through the ends and out, the extreme highs and lowest of lows of the industry, she isn't suffering depression, an eating disorder, drug use or ****ed up relationships both personally and professional in her life. Why wouldn't she be completely different now?
At the end of the day, this is the happiest Gaga has ever been in her life, so it's kind of telling to be coming after her for it because you miss your old early 20s pop star who was battling many insecurities and demons that were being masked by her monstrous success. |
You know what's funny. And this is no shade or read. People would like Gaga to stay in that bubble but completely forget that THEY themselves also have aged and changed.
You not in in the same grade you were back then. Maybe you were a kid back then and now late teen or in your 20s studying, having a relationship or your own place to live now. Nobody is on your case that you should stay exactly the same you were back then, that would be weird when you think about yourself that way.
Let's just not forget, we're watching a person grow up like everyone else it's not a cartoon character.
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Why would she @RedOne and tweet
After their session. They was ontew somethin.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Originally posted by joe71941
he said gaga's releasing in Q3, he seems to be reliable
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Yeah I think I can believe him more now. To give it a positive spin. We're half way through the year so the most is already behind us. Just a bit more guys, we have to hang in there.
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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Originally posted by Matte
Why would she @RedOne and tweet
After their session. They was ontew somethin. |
At the time, maybe she was into what they were creating.
But then things changed.
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