[Willy.]

Originally posted by swaggerific

Well Nicki doesn't have to prove anything honestly. If she wanted to release a full hip hop album she would've been did it. She's into her career now let's make it bigger and not take a step back by releasing a full hip hop album.

Exactly. This isn't the time to be all "nitty gritty rappity Rap chick".

I'm gonna be real. Nicki could release a full RAP album, get an 80 on Metacritic and still have it lose to another man at the Grammys.

However, if Nicki were to truly experiment like how Kendrick did with TPAB, or even how the girl who released that Lemonade album did, THAT would garner legitimate attention from the masses and would gain her more respect than a full RAP album, and you guys know it's the truth.

An experimental album =/= a Pop album, but a full RAP album does exclude tracks like TCG, or even Mona Lisa and co, which are things Nicki has never done before.

Yes, I know she hasn't released a full RAP album before, but now is the time to go even greater.

Rap is capitalized because I think there's a disconnect between Rap and Hip-Hop. Views is a Hip-Hop album. TPP is a Hip-Hop album for all intents and purposes. But I think this argument is more about a full Rap album a la PIO, no?

[Robbyyy]

Originally posted by Willy.

Oh, Drake has never claimed to be the greatest MC? Interesting. He takes shots at Kendrick all of the time but won't be direct for obvious reasons. But I'm gonna let you cook, Robert.

Drake is here for the same commercial success as Nicki, only difference is he's not allowing the best mc banter get to him because his goal is to be the king of the charts.

Plus, he's consistent & doesn't chase trends. It gives him a sense of authenticity.

[Nasty Nas]

THE GP DOES NOT WANT "POP NICKI".
Of course she can serve some reggae/dancehall tracks (if it's quality) because that seems to be the trend right now.
When people think of "Pop Nicki" they think of Starships, Turn Me On, Pound The Alarm, TNISY, etc.
Am i lying?
Please tell me.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Nasty Nas

Safaree was definitely talking before July.
Even if it was good.
He was talking.

People were paying more attention to the drama more than the music.
People were actually rooting for Safaree at one point.

Nobody cared about Safaree. The average person didn't no who he was. Maybe the URBAN crowd and The Shade Room demographic did, but they don't actually really matter. Nicki still had four tracks in the Top 10 of Urban radio while Safaree was in a fur coat sucking his teeth on The Breakfast Club.

NOW is when people know and care about the situation, but that's because he's suing her and all of the mainstream press is covering it.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Robbyyy

Drake is here for the same commercial success as Nicki, only difference is he's not allowing the best mc banter get to him because his goal is to be the king of the charts.

Plus, he's consistent & doesn't chase trends. It gives him a sense of authenticity.

Oh Drake doesn't chase trends? Is he a culture vulture to you?

[theycallmemaraj]

Originally posted by Nasty Nas

THE GP DOES NOT WANT "POP NICKI".
Of course she can serve some reggae/dancehall tracks (if it's quality) because that seems to be the trend right now.

Yaaas gimme Gun Shot 2.0

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Nasty Nas

THE GP DOES NOT WANT "POP NICKI".
Of course she can serve some reggae/dancehall tracks (if it's quality) because that seems to be the trend right now.
When people think of "Pop Nicki" they think of Starships, Turn Me On, Pound The Alarm, TNISY, etc.
Am i lying?
Please tell me.

I'm just wondering who in here is saying anything about Pop music. I don't have my glasses on, but ...

[swaggerific]

Originally posted by Nasty Nas

THE GP DOES NOT WANT "POP NICKI".
Of course she can serve some reggae/dancehall tracks (if it's quality) because that seems to be the trend right now.
When people think of "Pop Nicki" they think of Starships, Turn Me On, Pound The Alarm, TNISY, etc.
Am i lying?
Please tell me.

Yeah. If Nicki releases quality music people will be interested duh. She's already established and tbh haven't released quality mainstream crossover singles since Pink Friday.

[Nasty Nas]

Originally posted by Willy.

Nobody cared about Safaree. The average person didn't no who he was. Maybe the URBAN crowd and The Shade Room demographic did, but they don't actually really matter. Nicki still had four tracks in the Top 10 of Urban radio while Safaree was in a fur coat sucking his teeth on The Breakfast Club.

NOW is when people know and care about the situation, but that's because he's suing her and all of the mainstream press is covering it.

Well that's my crowd & i'm speaking for that crowd.
& you are out of your mind if you think no one cared about the situation before the lawsuit.

[OnikaLovato]

The album doesnt have to be full Hip Hop in order for her to prove her rap skills. Will it make the hip hop community pay attention? It might, that's not even guaranteed. Her releasing a hip hop album is not gonna make the gp do a 180 degree turn in her favor.

[Nasty Nas]

Originally posted by Willy.

I'm just wondering who in here is saying anything about Pop music. I don't have my glasses on, but ...

Tanya serves pop.
Therefore pop will always be brought up.

[theycallmemaraj]

I'd love for her to make a song like this again

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Nasty Nas

Well that's my crowd & i'm speaking for that crowd.
& you are out of your mind if you think no one cared about the situation before the lawsuit.

Yeah, the crowd that never purchased Nicki's music to begin with is so important. Glad you're part of it!

[Robbyyy]

Originally posted by Willy.

Oh Drake doesn't chase trends? Is he a culture vulture to you?

Not as frequently as Nicki & you know this.

But anyways I agree about her doing an experimental album to really garner the respect she deserves, I'm just saying it's kind of ridic how she's the Queen of a genre she stop feeding years ago.

I thought TPP would be the era to feed that audience & this era would be her true artistry.

[Lambo.]

I don't think y'all realize how much of a disconnect there is between stan culture and general music listeners.

the things y'all rant about do not matter, like at all.

[Willy.]

Originally posted by OnikaLovato

The album doesnt have to be full Hip Hop in order for her to prove her rap skills. Will it make the hip hop community pay attention? It might, that's not even guaranteed. Her releasing a hip hop album is not gonna make the gp do a 180 degree turn in her favor.

I'm just trying to say this and maybe it's me, but it's not getting through to them.

[Nasty Nas]

If NM4 touched on every layer of rap, i'd be satisfied.

[swaggerific]

Originally posted by OnikaLovato

The album doesnt have to be full Hip Hop in order for her to prove her rap skills. Will it make the hip hop community pay attention? It might, that's not even guaranteed. Her releasing a hip hop album is not gonna make the gp do a 180 degree turn in her favor.

Thisss

[Willy.]

Originally posted by Lambo.

I don't think y'all realize how much of a disconnect there is between stan culture and general music listeners.

the things y'all rant about do not matter, like at all.

This is what I'm trying to say as well. If being on ATRL for the past 5/4 years hasn't taught anyone this, well then, yeah.

[theycallmemaraj]

Originally posted by Nasty Nas

If NM4 touched on every layer of rap, i'd be satisfied.