[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Damien M

I wish i cared more about green energy (and fracking, and the whole 9) but i really don't

!!!! It's an issue no doubt about it, but I don't care much about it which is why Bernie bringing up fracking and such does not change my perception of her.

My main concern is human rights, the economy (wage growth, income inequality, and job creation), education, health care, terrorism, and gun control. IN THAT ORDER.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Damien M

I wish i cared more about green energy (and fracking, and the whole 9) but i really don't

Why? It's kind of necessary for like, the planet as a whole and stuff.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Retro

Why? It's kind of necessary for like, the planet as a whole and stuff.

I can't speak for him, but for me I know it's an issue. It's Top 10 on the list of all issues, but there are bigger fish to fry. There are things that need to be done right now. People are dying, being discriminated against, can't feed themselves or get medical treatment. People can barely provide a stable home for their kids because of their debt. Terrorist are blowing up people all around the world.

So while the Earth needs protection, the people in it need it too and need it NOW. The serious, dangerous effects of climate change won't be prevalent for another 50-100 years. We have time. And I'm sure most people feel the same. I rarely hear people talk about it.

[Retro]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I can't speak for him, but for me I know it's an issue. It's Top 10 on the list of all issues, but there are bigger fish to fry. There are things that need to be done right now. People are dying, being discriminated against, can't feed themselves or get medical treatment. People can barely provide a stable home for their kids because of their debt. Terrorist are blowing up people all around the world.

So while the Earth needs protection, the people in it need it too and need it NOW. The serious, dangerous effects on climate change won't be prevalent for another 50-100 years. We have time. And I'm sure most people feel the same. I rarely hear people talk about it.

This is totally false though. None of those are "do these first" things; we have the people and resources to do all of them and devote time and energy to climate protection. The effects might not be "prevalent" for several decades - though we're actually already seeing some very dire situations and consequences - but the point at which we lose control over the situation is a lot sooner.

[Bey Admired]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I can't speak for him, but for me I know it's an issue. It's Top 10 on the list of all issues, but there are bigger fish to fry. There are things that need to be done right now. People are dying, being discriminated against, can't feed themselves or get medical treatment. People can barely provide a stable home for their kids because of their debt. Terrorist are blowing up people all around the world.

So while the Earth needs protection, the people in it need it too and need it NOW.

The entire species of the human race is at risk if something drastic isn't done about global warming and climate change soon. I think it's the most important issue we face right now. Not terrorism, not debt, not discrimination, and not even medical care. What does it matter if we solve all those issues and we are in a worse position with regards to global warming than ever before?

Not only is the human race at risk, but millions of the world's species and their habitats. I don't think people realise just how emergent this is. We are talking about merely decades into the future.

[Rob_Matteo]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I can't speak for him, but for me I know it's an issue. It's Top 10 on the list of all issues, but there are bigger fish to fry. There are things that need to be done right now. People are dying, being discriminated against, can't feed themselves or get medical treatment. People can barely provide a stable home for their kids because of their debt. Terrorist are blowing up people all around the world.

So while the Earth needs protection, the people in it need it too and need it NOW. The serious, dangerous effects on climate change won't be prevalent for another 50-100 years. We have time. And I'm sure most people feel the same. I rarely hear people talk about it.

I get that everyone has different perceptions and priorities but you do realize that we can't afford to wait any longer to make changes?
Some of it is already irreversible, though it is not unstoppable. But if we wait until the effects become truly dangerous it will be too late.

[YSL]

Originally posted by heckinglovato

If you're implying voting for Secretary Clinton to ensure people like Senator Cruz are out of office, for he would potentially be giving tax cuts to large corporations, millionaires and billionaires and have them live off by taking your hard earned money, then kudos. #ImWithYou.

If you're implying you don't want your income to be rightfully distributed among other hard-working Americans, then someone who has championed Universal Healthcare, expanding Obamacare, making community-colleges tuition free, public colleges debt-free, giving taxpayer money to Planned Parenthood and expanding Medicare, Medicaid and welfare is probably not the right candidate for you. John McAfee (L) and Donald Trump (R) are better options to be viewing.

Under Bernie Sanders, undeserving freeloaders will be benefitting even more than they are now. I'm a democrat and truly believe in paying my share of taxes to fund programs for the less fortunate. Under Bernie's tax plan, I (a single middle class man) would be paying anywhere from $3500-$4000 more in taxes a year minimum. That's absurd. I refuse, especially considering how little monitoring the system does to make sure the money is going to the right people. With Hillary, my taxes will only go up $46 a year, while still implementing fiscally and socially responsible programs. Call me selfish but I rather use those $4000 for my vacations. I worked hard for it.

[Pixel]

Damn its that serious? let me start recycling

[King Maxx]

You guys are telling me exactly what I know. Climate change is real and a serious threat. BUT polls this whole election season have shown most people voting are more concerned with domestic and foreign policies. Climate change and the environment always come last or close to last in these polls. I'm not saying people don't care, but majority of Americans care more about getting a raise and stopping ISIS than global warming. That's all.

[YSL]

All issues are important issues, including clean energy. We only have a handful of decades before we run out of primary sources of energy like coal and fossil fuels (which are harming the environment) and it's inevitable that we have to switch to solar and wind (the cheapest to produce and most renewable of all). Fracking is a short term solution while we transition and the industry catches on.

I'm in the process of looking for solar panel providers for my parent's home. It can be expensive at first but it's an investment that reaps massive tax credits and you will eventually have the electric company paying you money.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by YSL

Under Bernie Sanders, undeserving freeloaders will be benefitting even more than they are now. I'm a democrat and truly believe in paying my share of taxes to fund programs for the less fortunate. Under Bernie's tax plan, I (a single middle class man) would be paying anywhere from $3500-$4000 more in taxes a year minimum. That's absurd. I refuse, especially considering how little monitoring the system does to make sure the money is going to the right people. With Hillary, my taxes will only go up $46 a year, while still implementing fiscally and socially responsible programs. Call me selfish but I rather use those $4000 for my vacations. I worked hard for it.

I entirely agree with this.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by YSL

Under Bernie Sanders, undeserving freeloaders will be benefitting even more than they are now. I'm a democrat and truly believe in paying my share of taxes to fund programs for the less fortunate. Under Bernie's tax plan, I (a single middle class man) would be paying anywhere from $3500-$4000 more in taxes a year minimum. That's absurd. I refuse, especially considering how little monitoring the system does to make sure the money is going to the right people. With Hillary, my taxes will only go up $46 a year, while still implementing fiscally and socially responsible programs. Call me selfish but I rather use those $4000 for my vacations. I worked hard for it.

[heckinglovato]

Originally posted by YSL

All issues are important issues, including clean energy. We only have a handful of decades before we run out of primary sources of energy like coal and fossil fuels (which are harming the environment) and it's inevitable that we have to switch to solar and wind (the cheapest to produce and most renewable of all). Fracking is a short term solution while we transition and the industry catches on.

I'm in the process of looking for solar panel providers for my parent's home. It can be expensive at first but it's an investment that reaps massive tax credits and you will eventually have the electric company paying you money.

Originally posted by Rob_Matteo

I get that everyone has different perceptions and priorities but you do realize that we can't afford to wait any longer to make changes?
Some of it is already irreversible, though it is not unstoppable. But if we wait until the effects become truly dangerous it will be too late.

Originally posted by Bey Admired

The entire species of the human race is at risk if something drastic isn't done about global warming and climate change soon. I think it's the most important issue we face right now. Not terrorism, not debt, not discrimination, and not even medical care. What does it matter if we solve all those issues and we are in a worse position with regards to global warming than ever before?

Not only is the human race at risk, but millions of the world's species and their habitats. I don't think people realise just how emergent this is. We are talking about merely decades into the future.

Originally posted by Retro

This is totally false though. None of those are "do these first" things; we have the people and resources to do all of them and devote time and energy to climate protection. The effects might not be "prevalent" for several decades - though we're actually already seeing some very dire situations and consequences - but the point at which we lose control over the situation is a lot sooner.

Thank you for standing up for the planet.

Environmental safety, planet security, climate change, green energy and fracking dominate a very good proportion of my list of priorities. If I combine those into one, it would most definitely go #1 on my list, and I think it should definitely be way up there on people's lists, especially progressives and Democrats generally. Our planet is at risk.

[YSL]

Also random but I'll never understand why people give Hillary **** for voting for the Iraq War. Her constituents would have had her head if she didn't vote for it considering the attack was in our own backyard.

In hindsight, it was a bad call but she and the ones who voted for it are not to blame. It is the president and his cabinet and their false intel that are. At the time, a lot of people wanted war but regretted what it turned into.

[Bey Admired]

Originally posted by King Maxx

You guys are telling me exactly what I know. Climate change is real and a serious threat. BUT polls this whole election season have shown most people voting are more concerned with domestic and foreign policies. Climate change and the environment always come last or close to last in these polls. I'm not saying people don't care, but majority of Americans care more about getting a raise and stopping ISIS than global warming. That's all.

Most Americans are deeply uneducated on this issue, that's why. If more people knew about it, and if the GOP stopped acting like it's a propaganda tool used by the left, I think it would wake people up. It's a shame that you have politicians in your country who are corporate lobbyists without any disregard for the actual people they are there to serve. They care about their own greed and that's it.

You can't use polls to testify how people don't care about global warming, when most don't even have the slightest clue what it is.

[King Maxx]

Americans priorities are generally messed up. Hate to turn this into Psychology, but it is in our instincts to protect ourselves in the now. More people would risk 8 more years of bad climate policies if that ensures them that their child won't die of hunger tomorrow night.

This is the world we currently live in. I think we need more politicians and other public figures to bring more awareness to the issue before we can see a significant change. Let's hope Bernie or Hillary can get that done as POTUS because the Republicans surely won't!!!

[heckinglovato]

Trump comes out to attack the Democratic super-delegate system and defend Bernie's last consecutive wins. I think he definitely wants to attract Bernie's anti-establishment and independent base if Bernie loses the nomination to Hillary, which is likely to be the case.

[Gary]

May da lawd be wid Bernie on Tuesday.

[Gary]

Originally posted by King Maxx

You guys are telling me exactly what I know. Climate change is real and a serious threat. BUT polls this whole election season have shown most people voting are more concerned with domestic and foreign policies. Climate change and the environment always come last or close to last in these polls. I'm not saying people don't care, but majority of Americans care more about getting a raise and stopping ISIS than global warming. That's all.

I blame our education system for this. It's scary and sad that a lot of students don't even believe in climate change and global warming, especially in the South.

[YSL]

Also there's a Hillary rally happening at 3pm down the street from me at Stonewall. I'm gonna go check it out.