[RatedG²]

Originally posted by iamvladd

Bernard is gunning for NY.

And so many (young) ppl are registering for vote for the first time here.

Yeah he's trying hard for it. He knows if he loses it, it's mathematically over short of her becoming nonviable in Caifornia.

He has like two weeks or so to blitz the state but I don't think he will win or even come close to it realistically

[HeyMr.DJ]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Yeah he's trying hard for it. He knows if he loses it, it's mathematically over short of her becoming nonviable in Caifornia.

He has like two weeks or so to blitz the state but I don't think he will win or even come close to it realistically

Has early voting been going on there? Don't you feel like most people there are set on one candidate? I'm assuming that most dems will vote for Hillary regardless of any cheap shots Bernie tries to pull? You know?

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ

Has early voting been going on there? Don't you feel like most people there are set on one candidate? I'm assuming that most dems will vote for Hillary regardless of any cheap shots Bernie tries to pull? You know?

Nope. No early voting. And while I don't have a clue about whether or not they are set on a particular candidate at this time, I do know that, from my understanding, New York is not as liberal as people claim. It's very moderate (like Pennsylvania) and she does the best with moderates. Also given that it's a closed primary (which excludes independents) she completely has the upper hand there at this point. She'll take it comfortably

But there are two more primaries and caucuses before then to think about

[Bloo]

Aside from Hillary winning in New York, every state we have polling data on from here on out has Hillary in the lead. Yesterday was the last good day for Bernie. The other good day was New Hampshire. Everything else has leaned towards Hillary. Honestly, there's not much of an argument to be made for Bernie to win the nomination at this point in terms of pledged delegates.

That's why Bernie has said his path forward is to win over super delegates (of a party he is suing and has called corrupt constantly, good luck with that) by making the argument that he would do better against Trump by referring to GE polls that aren't viable or legitimate this far out.

Quite frankly, Bernie is berned out. I'm ready for the primary to be done. The GE cannot come soon enough.

[King Maxx]

Early voting in Wisconsin ends April 1, and Hillary has 5 events scheduled before then. And she's running an ad exclusively in Milwaukee narrated by Morgan Freeman that talks about the death of Dontre Hamilton. (Milwaukee County holds 70% of the state's AA population so she's banking on that.

Come thru Milwaukee/Wisconsin. You don't have to win. Just keep the gap really close.

[HeyMr.DJ]

Originally posted by Bloo

Aside from Hillary winning in New York, every state we have polling data on from here on out has Hillary in the lead. Yesterday was the last good day for Bernie. The other good day was New Hampshire. Everything else has leaned towards Hillary. Honestly, there's not much of an argument to be made for Bernie to win the nomination at this point in terms of pledged delegates.

That's why Bernie has said his path forward is to win over super delegates (of a party he is suing and has called corrupt constantly, good luck with that) by making the argument that he would do better against Trump by referring to GE polls that aren't viable or legitimate this far out.

Quite frankly, Bernie is berned out. I'm ready for the primary to be done. The GE cannot come soon enough.

But remember, those polls don't take into account the fact that Hillary has already gotten slammed with super pac ads and constant battering from the GOP. Imagine if they took into account all of the criticism Bernie would receive for being a socialist. It wouldn't be pretty. I fear that Bernie would lose the general election too.

[King Maxx]

Trump v Sanders is giving me Bush v Dukakis vibes. And I'm not here for that.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ

But remember, those polls don't take into account the fact that Hillary has already gotten slammed with super pac ads and constant battering from the GOP. Imagine if they took into account all of the criticism Bernie would receive for being a socialist. It wouldn't be pretty. I fear that Bernie would lose the general election too.

Exactly. That's why they're not reliable or legitimate. Any statistician would say it's too difficult to be able to accurately predict the outcome in the GE this far out because of the number of contenders, the division of unity in the party, etc. There are too many variables to track in the primary season, as compared to the GE. You can't take those polls too seriously.

Also, the GOP is dying to go up against Bernie. He has a lot of skeletons, and they're saving them because they want to eliminate Hillary first.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Trump v Sanders is giving me Bush v Dukakis vibes. And I'm not here for that.

I would vote for Sanders. But I wouldn't enjoy doing so.

[Lexiel]

Is Obama allowed to endorse anyone? who's he endorsing?

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Lexiel

Is Obama allowed to endorse anyone? who's he endorsing?

He seems to be siding with Hillary. He even urged people to side with her to unite the party.

[bleuwaffle]

Originally posted by Lexiel

Is Obama allowed to endorse anyone? who's he endorsing?

Hillary, but who's surprised? Establishment supports establishment.

[Lexiel]

Originally posted by Tropez

He seems to be siding with Hillary. He even urged people to side with her to unite the party.

King knows best

[HeyMr.DJ]

Originally posted by Bloo

Exactly. That's why they're not reliable or legitimate. Any statistician would say it's too difficult to be able to accurately predict the outcome in the GE this far out because of the number of contenders, the division of unity in the party, etc. There are too many variables to track in the primary season, as compared to the GE. You can't take those polls too seriously.

Also, the GOP is dying to go up against Bernie. He has a lot of skeletons, and they're saving them because they want to eliminate Hillary first.

I really feel that a Bernie vs. Trump would be a LOT closer than a Hillary vs. Trump. Hillary has nothing to hide at this point... Bernie on the other hand

[Bloo]

Originally posted by bleuwaffle

Hillary, but who's surprised? Establishment supports establishment.

It's hard to support someone who argued that you should be primaried for your reelection... It's not about establishment. It's hard to want to support someone when they attack you. Also, quite frankly, Hillary and Obama are a LOT closer politically than Obama and Bernie. Also, Obama has a strong relationship with Hillary, as in he worked with her for four years as president.

[bleuwaffle]

Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ

Has early voting been going on there? Don't you feel like most people there are set on one candidate? I'm assuming that most dems will vote for Hillary regardless of any cheap shots Bernie tries to pull? You know?

What "cheap shots" has Bernie pulled that didn't consist of her past record? Enlighten me.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ

I really feel that a Bernie vs. Trump would be a LOT closer than a Hillary vs. Trump. Hillary has nothing to hide at this point... Bernie on the other hand

It would. I'm from a very red state, and I know plenty of Republicans that have sworn they're voting for Hillary if Trump is the Republican nominee. But they refuse to vote for Bernie because he's too left for them to handle. Also, quite frankly, tons of people (young and old) in more conservative states hate the idea of socialism. And that's what Bernie self-associates himself with.

[King Maxx]

Don't come for Obama to justify Bernie's losts.

Great president supports great candidate. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by bleuwaffle

What "cheap shots" has Bernie pulled that didn't consist of her past record? Enlighten me.

This comes to mind:
"I support president Obama!! I am the only person on this stage that did not run against Obama in a presidential race." ~ Bernie Sanders

[bleuwaffle]

Originally posted by Bloo

This comes to mind:
"I support president Obama!! I am the only person on this stage that did not run against Obama in a presidential race." ~ Bernie Sanders

That was a) a joke, and b) true.

Are you telling me she didn't run against him and attack him in the past? Take your stan goggles off.