[ABEL-o-matic]

Can someone give me a brief explanation of contesting the convention?

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

This is why she shouldn't even consider him as a VP nominee. Leave him and the BernieBros in the PAST pls, Hill-Dawg.

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

The irony of all of it too is that HE ISN'T EVEN A DEMOCRAT.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

The irony of all of it too is that HE ISN'T EVEN A DEMOCRAT.

Which is why he ain't getting super-delegates.

[MAKSIM]

The irony is that even if superdelegates reflected the "will" of the people she would still be THRASHING him. He is making a non-issue an issue.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Bloo

The thing I don't understand is how Bernie (and his supporters) just act like super delegates just boost the leading candidates' lead... No... The super delegates are to secure the party. Bernie needed to kiss some ass if he wanted to be able to win over some super delegates... Him suing the party, speaking constantly about how corrupt they are, just now registering as a Democrat in November 2015 to be eligible to be on the primary ballot, and only raising barely over a thousand dollars for the party compared to the millions Hillary has raised and it's quick to realize that Bernie is not going to convince many super delegates to switch to his side. Quite frankly, he is not a Democrat and they do not want their party hijacked.

The Republicans are freaking out because their primary system has no safety net like that. The super delegates may have flipped to Obama in 2008, but her lead in super delegates were nothing like they are this year and Obama was a loyal Democrat.

Good point

One thing I want to say though, The Young Turks (Bernie supporters) are always talking about how superdelegates don't matter. That no one should be counting them because they're meant to disenfranchise Bernie fans because it makes it seem like he has no chance. Because they always back the winning candidate and they will switch if need be like what happened in 2008. And if political pundits don't say that when addressing superdelegates they're stupid, ignorant, and biased

They're the uninformed ones though. In 2008 VERY little superdelegates switched to Obama. In fact, most of Obama's superdelegates came from undecided ones who didn't back anyone right away. And yes they do choose the winning candidate but they don't ever switch to the point they want to make it's annoying how uninformed THEY are yet act like everyone else is biased and dumb

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by Bloo

Which is why he ain't getting super-delegates.

Originally posted by MAKSIM

The irony is that even if superdelegates reflected the "will" of the people she would still be THRASHING him. He is making a non-issue an issue.

!!!

[@michael]

And for *the longest* he and his team acted like they were far too noble to have superdelegates and that they were soooooo undemocratic, but now that push has come to shove, and the Sanders campaign is sinking, they're going to try to steal superdelegates to steal the nomination from Hillary. At the end of the day, Bernie Sanders is just as big of a scumbag politician as the rest of them. Don't be fooled by his act.

[Temporal]

Originally posted by Retro

Hopefully the conservative wing of American politics shatters this year, and splits the vote in Hillary's favor.

The Democrats need to hold strong, elect Hillary, and give her a second term before I'm comfortable with any significant fracturing on our side.

Bernie and Warren must support Hillary when it comes to it - their support is instrumental to keeping the progressive wing tied to our more moderate side.

If we stand together where our opponent does not, we cannot lose.

+1

Originally posted by Retro

The ideal situation in my mind is Green Party voters - and members - realizing the prime opportunity we have right now to consolidate against Trump and a fracturing GOP.

The more who vote for Hillary now, the more we can build the political infrastructure for electing more progressive leaders throughout the next eight years and in the 2024 election.

We could take back the House within two or three elections if we play our cards right. We could already take the Supreme Court technically speaking, take back the Senate, and keep the White House, all in 2016.

We have such an amazing opportunity right now.

+1

I know I said I might consider a Green Party candidate, but the threat of a Trump (or Cruz) presidency has me too scared shitless to consider anyone over Hillary. I just pray to god people like my roommate get their heads out of their asses and cut through the ******** groups like Bernie Bros/Bernie's Dank Memes spew about Hillary, and realize that a vote for anyone that's not Hillary really is a vote for the Republicans.

Originally posted by The Countess

Ugh I can't stand him.

[LuLuDrops]

NOT here for contested convention on both sides. Keep that shhh in the GOP

[idkher]

This is hilarious

https://twitter.com/WomenintheWorld/...82254951469056

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

NOT here for contested convention on both sides. Keep that shhh in the GOP

The annoying thing in this instance is it's just a sore loser rather than a schism between the party establishment and the voters. It's just Bernie and his supporters being douchey.

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by idkher

This is hilarious

https://twitter.com/WomenintheWorld/...82254951469056

People are stupid I can't.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

The annoying thing in this instance is it's just a sore loser rather than a schism between the party establishment and the voters. It's just Bernie and his supporters being douchey.

At least with Hillary and Obama they were on similar wavelengths on the spectrum while Bernie will split the left between the regulars and faar-left

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by idkher

This is hilarious

https://twitter.com/WomenintheWorld/...82254951469056

Lmaooooo

[BoyOnBoy Wonder]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

At least with Hillary and Obama they were on similar wavelengths on the spectrum while Bernie will split the left between the regulars and faar-left

The worst part is that he's clearly going to consider an independent run (he doesn't care about the Democratic Party because HE ISN'T A DEMOCRAT).

[Skywalker]

Hillary also went to great lengths to unite the Democratic party and mend any wounds and grudges after 08. I'm not sure I can count the same for Bernie as he keeps getting more and more negative the closer we get to the convention and turning young people against the party.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Good point

One thing I want to say though, The Young Turks (Bernie supporters) are always talking about how superdelegates don't matter. That no one should be counting them because they're meant to disenfranchise Bernie fans because it makes it seem like he has no chance. Because they always back the winning candidate and they will switch if need be like what happened in 2008. And if political pundits don't say that when addressing superdelegates they're stupid, ignorant, and biased

They're the uninformed ones though. In 2008 VERY little superdelegates switched to Obama. In fact, most of Obama's superdelegates came from undecided ones who didn't back anyone right away. And yes they do choose the winning candidate but they don't ever switch to the point they want to make it's annoying how uninformed THEY are yet act like everyone else is biased and dumb

The Young Turks are not a news source. They're a well-funded, liberal podcast version of Fox News. I love how they advertise themselves as being "real reporting" and will start up most of their videos with, "CNN just reported that...", "MSNBC reports that Bernie lost this state...", etc. They just stamp their opinion on actual reporting and do not try in anyway to be objective or realistic. It's a joke. And I see Bernie supporters all the time point to them as a valid and "objective" source of information. It's insane. I used to be a HUGE TYT fan, and then this election started and they went insane.

[Skywalker]

Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder

The worst part is that he's clearly going to consider an independent run (he doesn't care about the Democratic Party because HE ISN'T A DEMOCRAT).

I don't think he'll do that with Trump looming. If it were someone else, like say John McCain, then maybe I could see it but I think everyone is aware of what a danger Trump is. I don't know if he'll bother to endorse Hillary at this point though.

[Retro]

Even the Green Party's candidate's logos suck: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_...016#Candidates

Lord. I might need to reach out to one in 2020 and offer to design their campaign logo, because the only half-passable one is Jill's.