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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Orpheus
I forgot that Mississippi was also tonight. Even if Bernie wins Michigan, she will win the net delegate count.  |
True. But a loss in MI would be very much concerning.
also Sanders' campaign said she has a regional problem, as in she can only win in the South. I need her to prove them wrong again! Though IA and MA (and NV) are definitely not the South lol
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by RatedG²
True. But a loss in MI would be very much concerning.
also Sanders' campaign said she has a regional problem, as in she can only win in the South. I need her to prove them wrong again! Though IA and MA (and NV) are definitely not the South lol
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She won IA by. .3% and MA by what, 1-2%?
Most of her strength (from what we've seen so far) is only in the south, where democrats tend to be more conservative anyways.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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I'm not worried. The black vote in Detroit will come through.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Black vote in MI is a smaller share of the Dem electorate than 2008. Good news for Bernie
He will get rocked in MS though, obviously.
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Originally posted by Mike91
She won IA by. .3% and MA by what, 1-2%?
Most of her strength (from what we've seen so far) is only in the south, where democrats tend to be more conservative anyways.
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They're basically Republicans tbh. If Republicans weren't so insensitive to minorities, there would be a lot more black Republicans.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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I'm still hopeful of a 5%-15%. She really made the Flint thing her own, and she grilled him on the auto industry votes.
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Originally posted by Marvin
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There's a difference between an election and a nomination
Electable comes from the word 'election'
Trump isnt electable at ALL. Policies are subjective hence the 'best candidate' often means 'most likely to win a general election'. Which goes to Rubio and Hillary.
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Originally posted by Mike91
She won IA by. .3% and MA by what, 1-2%?
Most of her strength (from what we've seen so far) is only in the south, where democrats tend to be more conservative anyways.
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True but it's not particularly true saying she has a regional problem when she's in fact winning states outside of it. True her IA and MA wins were small but NV was very solid. A good showing in MI dispels that. A loss kinda confirms it so that's why I hope she does well as she should
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by Marvin
They're basically Republicans tbh. If Republicans weren't so insensitive to minorities, there would be a lot more black Republicans.
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Well that's not true. They may be more religious and hold more conservative views on social issues, but black people in the South have particularly been damaged a lot by the Republicans' policies.
But they also know stuff like free college tuition won't work especially an already bad economic state. That's why my state of Louisiana did not go for him. It's more than "insensitive to minorities". It's years of failed policies.
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I can't, at unions fighting to endorse Trump  the Democratic Party is doomed
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Originally posted by Damien M
There's a difference between an election and a nomination
Electable comes from the word 'election'
Trump isnt electable at ALL. Policies are subjective hence the 'best candidate' often means 'most likely to win a general election'. Which goes to Rubio and Hillary.
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Rubio is electable but hasn't one won primary. What? Where do you get this assumption that Trump isn't electable? From the huge amount of support he has?
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She won Virginia (do we even really consider that the South), and she's winning in the polls in Michigan, Ohio, Illinois, and Missouri. So I don't agree with the regional comments.
And I'm sure down the line she'll win places like New York and California. She's winning in all the big delegates states all around the country. Bernie just does well in rural areas which so happen to be the smaller states with small delegates (which we've even seen the southern states' small counties)
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Jimmy Carter, Obama, and Clinton all relied on the south to win the primaries. Lost them in the general, but still won. Hillary's problem is getting those swing states in the GE, but Trump should make that a little easier IMO.
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I think Hillary is fine winning the demographically diverse, delagte rich statea in the South. Thats her whole strategy, she learned from 08, she was winning overwhelmingly white states and losing the delegate tally.
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Originally posted by Mr Telephone Man
I think Hillary is fine winning the demographically diverse, delagte rich statea in the South. Thats her whole strategy, she learned from 08, she was winning overwhelmingly white states and losing the delegate tally.
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Like the person said above, the primaries are all about delegate counts. GE is about electability. Bernie should've focused most of his whole campaign trying to win the south or at least close the margin as close as possible. He would've won the liberal, white small states anyway. Now it's impossible for him to catch up. Lesson learned. Bad thing for him is that he won't be able to run for president again.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Jimmy Carter, Obama, and Clinton all relied on the south to win the primaries. Lost them in the general, but still won. Hillary's problem is getting those swing states in the GE, but Trump should make that a little easier IMO.
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Polls are showing that up to 20% of democrats are willing to switch to Trump, and this is before he goes moderate and swings back to the center.
I think the best enemy would be Ted Cruz. Dude is ugly, unlike able, and his net favor ability numbers are as bad as Hillary's despite most people not knowing who the hell he is.
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I think Hillary will win the popular vote but Trump will win electoral
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Originally posted by Istan4R
I think Hillary will win the popular vote but Trump will win electoral
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2000 repeat all over again. Doubt that'll happen.
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Member Since: 7/21/2012
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
Polls are showing that up to 20% of democrats are willing to switch to Trump, and this is before he goes moderate and swings back to the center.
I think the best enemy would be Ted Cruz. Dude is ugly, unlike able, and his net favor ability numbers are as bad as Hillary's despite most people not knowing who the hell he is.
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I don't think that 20% is quite accurate. I really have faith in Dems come November. Obama, Bill, Hillary will make sure this man does not become president. His primary appeal won't last. It's barely doing that now. Cruz is coming hopefully. I still want Trump v Hilary for the kiis and iconic moments.
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Here we go...
CNN/MSNBC projects MISSISSIPPI for Clinton
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