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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Cupid
UK news tonight saying it's Trump vs Hillary - everyone's pretty much called it.
Also did a piece about Trumps dumb policies with the wall and stuff.
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Slay, UK  The Scots will be rejoicing all night if he loses 
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LMAO He has no shot at California. He has better chances in like Missouri or Indiana.
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Originally posted by Mickey
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Bernie had no chance in Texas because more than 50% of the people voting were non-white and he is losing with them. Bernie will not and cannot win without the support of these groups, no democrat has.
Like I said the states that he is winning are majority white populations and he cannot win the democratic ticket without the support of women, African Americans, and Hispanics.
I mean look at his home state of Vermont, 95% of the people are white.
I hate to make this into a race issue but the reason that he is losing has 100% to do with it. The question is though, why do minorities favor Hillary more than Bernie by huge margins? I think both will be great, but there is something that is sticking that she has and he doesn't. Regardless I would be happy with either but Bernie winning is a long shot based on these numbers.
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Originally posted by Mickey
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NOOOOOO!!!! Poor bernie.... Poor fools thinking they can defeat the amazing Hillary Rodham... Talent wins. Hillary is the most qualified presidential candidate in the United States. Probably one of the smartest individuals on the planet. 
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Originally posted by LP54
Bernie had no chance in Texas because more than 50% of the people voting were non-white and he is losing with them. Bernie will not and cannot win without the support of these groups, no democrat has.
Like I said the states that he is winning are majority white populations and he cannot win the democratic ticket without the support of women, African Americans, and Hispanics.
I mean look at his home state of Vermont, 95% of the people are white.
I hate to make this into a race issue but the reason that he is losing has 100% to do with it. The question is though, why do minorities favor Hillary more than Bernie by huge margins? I think both will be great, but there is something that is sticking that she has and he doesn't. Regardless I would be happy with either but Bernie winning is a long shot based on these numbers. |
Simple. She is Hillary CLINTON.... Her and Bill are two of the most minority-appraised politicians in the nation. Hillary fought for equal rights throughout her career with the children's defense fund and Bill has an absolutely amazing relationship with the African American community. Bernie has payed very little attention to the minorities, instead focusing on the money issues regarding the middle and lower class... His loss, because there is NO way Bernie can win if he keeps the same %'s of minorities (which is almost guranteed to be the case).
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Carson to suspend some time this week says MSNBC reporting.
Will tell his supporters that he doesnt 'see a path forward' some time today.
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Originally posted by Orpheus
Carson to suspend some time this week says MSNBC reporting.
Will tell his supporters that he doesnt 'see a path forward' some time today.
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Finally 
It'll feed Cruz's ego that he can still snatch 
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What is with all this talk about Romney discussing this election? Please go home, you lost to Obama. What advice could he possibly give when he didn't even win? Plus, he has denounced Trump a million times and obviously his statements mean very little to republican voters.
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Originally posted by LP54
What is with all this talk about Romney discussing this election? Please go home, you lost to Obama. What advice could he possibly give when he didn't even win? Plus, he has denounced Trump a million times and obviously his statements mean very little to republican voters.
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Expose ha! 
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
NOOOOOO!!!! Poor bernie.... Poor fools thinking they can defeat the amazing Hillary Rodham... Talent wins. Hillary is the most qualified presidential candidate in the United States. Probably one of the smartest individuals on the planet. |
I can't tell if you're joking
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Originally posted by LP54
What is with all this talk about Romney discussing this election? Please go home, you lost to Obama. What advice could he possibly give when he didn't even win? Plus, he has denounced Trump a million times and obviously his statements mean very little to republican voters.
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He will only give Trump ammunition and fire up Trump's supporters. Bad idea.
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Bernie’s Revolution Is Too White to Win
It could be argued that both Sanders and Clinton are regional candidates, with Sanders dominating the Northeast and Clinton the South. But there is another way to slice the numbers—one that presents a problem for Sanders not just in terms of winning the primary but also in terms of the logic and legitimacy of his movement. Clinton is winning a multiracial coalition that includes large numbers of whites, African-Americans, and Latinos. Sanders by contrast is winning largely in states which are overwhelmingly white: Iowa, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Oklahoma.
There are two exceptions to this rule: Colorado (a state that is 21 percent Latino) and Nevada, where Sanders made significant inroads with Latinos (according to a disputed entrance poll, he won a majority of them). Colorado and Nevada do show Sanders can expand his popularity into the Latino community, although even here much work needs to be done.
To see Sanders’s ongoing diversity problem, consider Texas, where Clinton won narrowly on Tuesday among whites (51 percent to 47 percent) but overwhelmingly among both blacks (80-18) and Latinos (67-33), according to exit polls.
These numbers show that Clinton’s support much more closely mirrors the Democratic Party’s base than Sanders’s does. One of the key divisions in American politics is that the Republicans are an overwhelmingly white party, while the Democrats are a multiracial one. In 2012, the Obama coalition consisted of 56 percent white, 24 percent black, 14 percent Latino, and 4 percent Asian. By contrast, Mitt Romney’s electorate was 89 percent white, 2 percent black, 6 percent Latino, and 2 percent Asian. Clinton’s coalition, in both Texas and elsewhere, looks like Obama’s; Sanders’s looks like Romney’s.
The Sanders campaign seems resigned to the whiteness of his support, and reportedly intends to make the most of it. According to Kyle Cheney writing in Politico:
Sanders’ goal was to emerge from Super Tuesday with a viable comeback path. But it’s unclear how he envisions proceeding from here. His team has sketched a strategy that involves running up margins in the predominantly white states that have responded better to his message. He’s hoping to rattle off wins in the weeks ahead in friendlier territory — Nebraska, Kansas and Maine, which are next on the calendar.
This strategy might be dictated by necessity given Sanders’s failure to gain traction among black voters and limited success among Latinos. But whatever the cause, by having such a narrow demographic base, Sanders has a much harder time claiming to represent the Democratic Party than Clinton does.
Photographs of the speeches the candidates gave tell their own story: Clinton was surrounded by a diverse, racially mixed crowd (including a woman in a hijab) while Sanders, speaking from his home state in Vermont, had a largely white crowd behind him.
Source: https://newrepublic.com/article/1309...tion-white-win
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Exactly my point.
Debates or not, if Bernie can't get support from these voters then he will not win. And right now the only states ahead that Bernie looks like he will capture are Nebraska, Kansas and Maine. 
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Originally posted by Musicjunky318
LMAO He has no shot at California. He has better chances in like Missouri or Indiana.
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thats what im thinking but Bernie Bot are confident he is winning california 
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California votes in June anyway. I'm sure Hillary would have reached the delegates she needs to win by then. Poor Bernsters
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welp, Ben Carson drops out (finally)
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MSNBC reports Clinton raised $30M in February. $10M off from Sanders' $40M.
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Originally posted by Mickey
I can't tell if you're joking
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I'm being serious... Lol.
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Originally posted by jpow
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So accurate 
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ATRL Contributor
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Originally posted by Mickey
welp, Ben Carson drops out (finally)
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Thank god. My grandma will be so sad though, sucks to suck
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