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Celeb News: Viola Davis: The Oscars are not the problem
Member Since: 9/17/2011
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Originally posted by c0caine
Anyone that is not dense knows we're talking about the west side of the globe here, especially the US.
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We are?
Why not just say it like that then?
Western hemisphere (especially the US) is mostly white so that's why whoever is in charge of who gets the roles gives these roles to white people.
What about world outside the US?
Asia? Isn't that a big market? How do they feel about minorities in leading roles?
South America? What about them?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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She's right in the Big picture.
However, whereas it is racism or "white-centric" society, it's not Famous White actresses' fault that they get paid more, if their films make more money, then I don't get the point.
Like Jennifer Lawrence was cashing BIG with hunger games and other films, but Hunger Games were making 600-800M Worldwide, American Hustle & Silver Linings did really good for being low-stake dramas.
Sandra Bullock's movies generally do good, her comedies, her dramas.
I can't think of a Black Actress who can say the same except maybe Zoe Zaldana, however, she is usually in supporting roles.
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Tottaly agree 
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by TheLastChord
She's right in the Big picture.
However, whereas it is racism or "white-centric" society, it's not Famous White actresses' fault that they get paid more, if their films make more money, then I don't get the point.
Like Jennifer Lawrence was cashing BIG with hunger games and other films, but Hunger Games were making 600-800M Worldwide, American Hustle & Silver Linings did really good for being low-stake dramas.
Sandra Bullock's movies generally do good, her comedies, her dramas.
I can't think of a Black Actress who can say the same except maybe Zoe Zaldana, however, she is usually in supporting roles.
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That is her point. She is not blaming white actors/actresses, she is pointing out that we should have the same opportunity to be in a big budget movie like Hunger Games and in a role like JLaw's to make that leading money. And that we need to be in those Oscar worthy roles like Julianne Moore in Still Alice. We just need opportunity is basically what she is saying.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Finally someone said it! Sick of all these faux-activists boycotting the Oscars while avoiding addressing the real problem in fear of pissing off the movie industry. Go Viola
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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I see her point, but why is she condemning black actors to "black films"? Whether your black, brown, yellow, mayo, ketchup.... We all as humans go through similar situations were we can relate to each other. By her posing the question "can a black actor play this? She's already instilling uncertainty and sheer doubtfulness of their capabilities
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Member Since: 6/12/2011
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Finally. Tell them Queen V
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Member Since: 4/5/2012
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Classy and intelligent!
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Member Since: 8/29/2009
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she should have won for "The Help".. such a powerhouse actress - the greatest of her generation and one of the best alltime.
love her. also alfre woodard.. queens. The fact that she is BFF with Meryl says it all. she is soooooooooooo right with her critique.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Callisto.
This thread is so transparent and shows how clueless the lot of you are
"Oh finally someone says it! Talks about the real problem!"
They BEEN talking about how minorities barely get roles, they've been talking about how the Oscars rarely gives the few films that do get made their just due. People have been talking about this **** for decades. So save this fake ass 'Oh finally someones says it!'
Yall just like to feel validated in your ignorance. Just because you ignore the conversation until it's forced in your face doesn't mean it's not happening. |
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I just love the evident contrast between someone intelligent like her and dumb, attention seeking people like Jada P. Smith
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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"The problem is not with the Oscars, the problem is with the Hollywood movie-making system,”
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Thank YOU!!!
Lupita, what's good!?
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Generally the Oscars are no less diverse than the other major awards groups for movies though, like critics and Sags and Baftas.
Basically the one name they picked this year that the Oscars didn't was Idris Elba, who was in a Netflix movie that got no noms and I bet many voters didn't want to watch a Netflix movie (esp about child soldiers).
If you look at past years, Oscars are better than the others at diversity. For example, the Baftas never nominated Will, Denzel, or Morgan.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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She's correct that the industry is the source of the problem, but I'm not so willing in letting the Academy get away scot free. They definitely play a role in perpetuating it.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Originally posted by BnPac
The comments in this thread are a bit unsettling. It's as if people are so adamant to take the blame off the Oscars. She didn't say the Oscars were not racist, because **** they certainly are. She said there are a "symptom to a bigger problem" meaning the Oscars are a big racist issue but the whole system needs to change. There is no way one can justify that in a whole calendar year with many people of colors having roles and giving good performances, not a single one was nominated. Not an Asian, not a latino, not a black person, nothing other than white people. It's absurd and yes, racist and a vibrant testament of white privilege. And people are trying to use this comment to absolve the Oscars of their faults.
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Yeah, this is exactly what's going on here. But whatever.
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Y'all are so transparent.
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Originally posted by Amour&Psyche
I see her point, but why is she condemning black actors to "black films"? Whether your black, brown, yellow, mayo, ketchup.... We all as humans go through similar situations were we can relate to each other. By her posing the question "can a black actor play this? She's already instilling uncertainty and sheer doubtfulness of their capabilities
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She's not. She's just pointing out the reality. When a movie is about black people or women or gay peoplee etc, it's always perceived as a black film or chick flick or gay movie. And unfortunately it doesn't seem like we can relate to each other because all people find whites to be relatable while everyone else becomes a niche subject for sub-audiences. Her question "can a black actor play this?" is for casting directors to consider so that their casting choice is broadened, which it usually isn't.
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