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Celeb News: RCA Refuses to Promote Tinashe
Member Since: 11/18/2008
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Well did she really think they'd be happy with her leaking her ****? Did she not see how that worked for Angel haze? And no shade to Ti I love ha but it doesn't seem like the gp is here for her nor player.
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Member Since: 3/7/2014
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
Sales. Title has sold almost a million copies, I'm not even sure Aquarius sold 100k.
I'm sorry, but the narrative she/her fans try to push that her label is ignoring her doesn't seem genuine. Her lead single came out 2 years ago and she's collabed with big hit makers like DJ Mustard, Mike Will Made It, Max Martin, etc. All of her singles have either remixes (All Hands on Deck f/ Iggy, Dej Loaf) or big name collabs (R.Kelly f/ Tinashe, Tinashe f/ DJ Mustard, Tinashe f/ A$AP Rocky, Tinashe f/ Chris Brown, Tinashe f/ Young Thug) and yet she's not getting any hits, she's not really amassing a following and no one is really responding to her.
Lots of artists don't offer anything new, but if they sell well labels will ignore it. Tinashe, Zendaya, Ciara, etc all blend into each other, and all 3 of their last albums have a combine first week total of 42k. It's ridiculous to compare them to Shawn Mendes/The Weeknd/Meghan Trainor because people are actually going out and buying their stuff.
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Originally posted by RudeBoyy
The reason they won't promote her is she works with big name producers, collabs with big name artists and then sells close to nothing. No matter how many remixes, T.V. slots etc she gets she continues to do poorly. This is even shade, the sales for all her singles are horrible despite the fact that they've all had at least a sprinkle or promo or some A-list collabs (sometimes both). She's not happening, they don't want to waste their budget
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Originally posted by KORDEI
If that's true, Pretend might have messed up her momentum imo. She should have thrown out All Hands On Deck right after 2 On [a video like that at the peak of her popularity would have been >>>] and then Feels Like Vegas. I feel like things would be different for her.
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This is extremely accurate
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
OK, here's the thing
Player is not selling well at all, so I'm just HOPING that RCA's refusal to promote it is because they want to move on to another, stronger single rather than because they don't know what to do with her in general
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This. I LOVE Tinashe but Player is not really the "breakout hit" I want to see from her tbh. I think she can and has done better, and I KNOW she will do much better than that. Hopefully the reason RCA is holding back is because they believe that too (though since it's a major label, that's most likely not the reason). Either way, I'm confident her time will come soon enough. She's too talented not to be successful. No shade to the other r&b girls she gets compared to, but the fact that T even makes an effort to produce, write and compose her own music all by herself already puts her leagues above the others.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Jack!
She should have known signing with RCA. C'mon girl, EVERYONE is better than that.
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It'll be a risk to reject it, as it could've been her only offer though
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Originally posted by Jezang Looz
The thing is you guys keep dismissing Pretend because it did poorly. Pretend is a commercial-friendly song. Detail produced that song at his peak, along with other similar sounding songs (Drunk In Love, I Luh Ya Papi) which were doing well on radio. Had she released AHOD first or Pretend we don't know what would have happened, but you can't blame Pretend for her lack of momentum when the song should have been a moderate hit regardless. It was crafted to be one.
It also has an ASAP feature for urban spins. Single order is important but in Tinashe's case it wasn't a factor because she released all of her most commercially viable songs. 2 On, Pretend, Feels Like Vegas, and AHOD. They all should have done moderately well since they were all intended to be singles, and yet none of them made an impact except for 2 On. Single order isn't to blame for her. Her material just isn't sticking. She also doesn't have as much promo as other artist (Ariana, Charli XCX, Iggy, etc.).
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You're really don't know what you're talking about, and just talking out your ass at this point.
Otherwise you'd know that she never fully released Feels Like Vegas as a single. And just because Detail has produced massive tracks doesn't automatically meant that a song will get picked up by radio.
Confident by Demi has been a total flop despite being a Max Martin track. The actual song is what matters. Pretend, while a nice track, should never have been released as a single. Like it's been pointed out, it completely killed the momentum. By the time AHOD was released, the buzz around her had diminished so radio didn't care enough to pick her up.
Not to mention that female artists have been struggling on Urban radio in general, and they weren't receptive to All Hands on Deck. Rhythmic was the only format that picked it up, and as it's shown, airplay on that format doesn't tend translate to sales very much.
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Originally posted by Sinister
Are you kidding me???
Tinashe has had a bigger push than so many ppl
Check all the features shes been on
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Where the **** are some of you pulling these bull **** statements from? 
But you're automatically assuming that it's the label paying for and pushing for these features. Obviously, Young Thug and Iggy got paid for their verses on Party Favors and AHOD, but it's not like the label is going up to R Kelly with a crap ton of cash and begging them to let her be on his song.
That's just idiotic.
She's on these tracks, because the artists wanted her on those tracks.
Plus that's the less her label, and more her management putting her in touch.
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
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I understand what she means.
The songs don't take off because there's no promo and there's no promo because her songs don't take off.
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Player is a bop. Hope she's not getting Kesha'd.
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January 29 would be a bad choice anyway because Sia and Charlie Puth are releasing.
I love Tinashe - she has great music, sings okay, dances very well. However, she is not charismatic/captivating as a personality and I don't see her breaking through. Tori Kelly is also not charismatic and you don't see her doing very well either.
I'm not sure if Tinashe will make it big. I wish her the best but the material doesn't scream "I came to conquer the charts". She needs something fresh, like Gaga was fresh 6-7 years ago.
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Poor Tinashe 
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But to be honest, Player isn't a good song. The label thinks sticking Chris Brown on the song was going to make it a huge urban smash. Player is not a good song by any standard. Its the one of the weakest songs she has ever recorded. I can name five songs off Aquarius that are far better than Player will ever be.
Tinashe is on the way of becoming the new Ciara. So much potential, so much talent. But it never happened for her. (PS: this not flame bait. There is honestly no excuse for Ciara not having a seat at the same table that Rih, Bey, Gaga, Katy, Adele and Taylor sit at).
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Player is such a great song, they should be ashamed to not believe in their artists.
Tinashe is somebody, very similar to Bey in this sense, who sells best when she performs cause shes simply a very talented performer, regardless whether u like her songs or not. People see that. So in order to make her relevant and successful, she needs the platform to showcase what shes very good at, which ultimately means "Book way more shows":
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I can't at some of y'all in here saying that her label is failing her and it's all their fault... When yet in every other thread I see you saying "talent always wins".
What's the truth?
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Originally posted by Wonderland
I can't at some of y'all in here saying that her label is failing her and it's all their fault... When yet in every other thread I see you saying "talent always wins".
What's the truth?
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in the end of the day her talent will win
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Originally posted by Team_Avatar
Where the **** are some of you pulling these bull **** statements from?
But you're automatically assuming that it's the label paying for and pushing for these features. Obviously, Young Thug and Iggy got paid for their verses on Party Favors and AHOD, but it's not like the label is going up to R Kelly with a crap ton of cash and begging them to let her be on his song.
That's just idiotic.
She's on these tracks, because the artists wanted her on those tracks.
Plus that's the less her label, and more her management putting her in touch. |
A push is a push...exposure is exposure
It doesnt matter if it came from management, her label, or from other places...shes getting it
Shes touched an award show stage just by being on Drop That Kitty
I wasnt the one who claimed Natalie La Rose was more promoted than her
Somebody didnt get its first performance until it had already peaked in the top 10
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Wonderland
I can't at some of y'all in here saying that her label is failing her and it's all their fault... When yet in every other thread I see you saying "talent always wins".
What's the truth?
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Why would her label sign her if they didn't see any potential?
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Member Since: 5/23/2011
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This thread is so stupid
1) "2 On" was a hit and she's on tons of features, writing singles for Fifth Harmony, touring with Nicki and Katy. Why are yall acting like Tinashe is some brand new person that will be dropped any second?
2) "Player" is #34 on pop radio and RISING. #12 on rhytmic. STILL GROWING.
3) Stop blaming RCA and saying they're the worst label ever for urban artists. Especially when one of their URBAN artists (Bryson Tiller) is the hottest new artist in music right now. PLus, they've made Miguel a R&B superstar in the past few years too. SO stop it. You can't compare Tinashe to a Jazmine or Fantasia or Monica. Different lanes.
4) Aquarius came out 1 year and 2 months ago. 'Joyride' is right on track, and was not needed in November. Stop trying to rush everything.
Give her stuff time to grow. She's not Rihanna or NIcki or Britney or Taylor...her singles aren't going to blow up in 1 or 2 weeks. She's not doomed or about to be dropped; not when she's RCA's biggest hope of having a sexy triple threat urban popstar.
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