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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Yeah, um, I really don't think you fully understand the state of US politics if you're claiming that Trump is superior to anyone but Carson. Furthermore, accusing her of bandwagoning her politics is basically buying into literally the only media criticism of her and ignores that she voted the same as Bernie 94% of the time (establishing a solidly progressive voting record) and actually has solid stances on most things. Honestly, you're buying into a sexist portrayal of her as the indecisive woman, and a GOP-peddled portrayal as a malevolent figure only interested in her own gain because they can't handle her beating their asses.
Also claiming your country is "x10 better than the US  " is straight up ignorant, rude, unjustifiable, and indicates to me that you shouldn't actually be having this conversation with someone who isn't demeaning your country or claiming that being #unapologetic and #raw is what's important in a political candidate of any sort.
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Woo lord Jesus Christ 
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Yeah, um, I really don't think you fully understand the state of US politics if you're claiming that Trump is superior to anyone but Carson. Furthermore, accusing her of bandwagoning her politics is basically buying into literally the only media criticism of her and ignores that she voted the same as Bernie 94% of the time (establishing a solidly progressive voting record) and actually has solid stances on most things. Honestly, you're buying into a sexist portrayal of her as the indecisive woman, and a GOP-peddled portrayal as a malevolent figure only interested in her own gain because they can't handle her beating their asses.
Also claiming your country is "x10 better than the US " is straight up ignorant, rude, unjustifiable, and indicates to me that you shouldn't actually be having this conversation with someone who isn't demeaning your country or claiming that being #unapologetic and #raw is what's important in a political candidate of any sort.
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Woooooooo the #fumes
but whatever, I still want someone who is not #hillaryclinton whether he is pandering to the white people or a zoo keeper  they are still better than Hillary
Though I like Sanders, he is.....a very honest man unlike...#yikes. So good luck to him 
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Originally posted by Meowster
Donald Trump went full out fascist the other week and you want to say he's "way better than Hillary?" 
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Ehhh 
Everyone does that once in a while, including Donald Trump or me or Goosey sooo...
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ATRL Senior Member
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lol @ at you avoiding anything I actually said in your response and taking the typical ATRL stan out of "fumes!!!!" tho.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Chanel.
lol @ at you avoiding anything I actually said in your response and taking the typical ATRL stan out of "fumes!!!!" tho.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Yeah, um, I really don't think you fully understand the state of US politics if you're claiming that Trump is superior to anyone but Carson. Furthermore, accusing her of bandwagoning her politics is basically buying into literally the only media criticism of her and ignores that she voted the same as Bernie 94% of the time (establishing a solidly progressive voting record) and actually has solid stances on most things. Honestly, you're buying into a sexist portrayal of her as the indecisive woman, and a GOP-peddled portrayal as a malevolent figure only interested in her own gain because they can't handle her beating their asses.
Also claiming your country is "x10 better than the US " is straight up ignorant, rude, unjustifiable, and indicates to me that you shouldn't actually be having this conversation with someone who isn't demeaning your country or claiming that being #unapologetic and #raw is what's important in a political candidate of any sort.
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Fact is...Hillary is going to break your heart if you think she is going to carry Obama's progressive legacy...much less sniff what Sanders is proposing. Hillary is beholden to Wall Street and so many various special interests...like big oil. She's going to reverse course on the Keystone XL pipeline if she gets into office (which would be a good thing, I wouldn't mind it).
She is also a "war hawk"...if she gets elected expect a ramp up in troops to Syria and Iraq.
Hillary clearly believes she deserves to be president...why do you think she suffered through all those embarrassing moments with Bill for? No one (unless they had political ambition) would of stayed with a man that serially cheated on them in a public way the way Bill did Hillary. Hillary thinks she deserves to be President Queen of America because she has played the political game, and has in some way earned it.
Never mind the fact that Hillary is secretive like Richard Nixon...I don't fully understand her appeal to Democrats? Is it truly only because she is a woman? Are the Democrats that willing to settle for a candidate with a backwards 1990 political economic/foreign policy mentality...just so they can say they nominated the first woman as a nominee?
They gonna lose with that kind of thinking...but let the sheep run off the cliff. 
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
[CENTER]Fact is...Hillary is going to break your heart if you think she is going to carry Obama's progressive legacy...much less sniff what Sanders is proposing. Hillary is beholden to Wall Street and so many various special interests...like big oil. She's going to reverse course on the Keystone XL pipeline if she gets into office (which would be a good thing, I wouldn't mind it).
She is also a "war hawk"...if she gets elected expect a ramp up in troops to Syria and Iraq.
Hillary clearly believes she deserves to be president...why do you think she suffered through all those embarrassing moments with Bill for? No one (unless they had political ambition) would of stayed with a man that serially cheated on them in a public way the way Bill did Hillary. Hillary thinks she deserves to be President Queen of America because she has played the political game, and has in some way earned it.
Never mind the fact that Hillary is secretive like Richard Nixon...I don't fully understand her appeal to Democrats? Is it truly only because she is a woman? Are the Democrats that willing to settle for a candidate with a backwards 1990 political economic/foreign policy mentality...just so they can say they nominated the first woman as a nominee?
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I do agree with a lot of this hence why I ultimately support Sanders, but, at the end of the day. she's the best woman running for president, so I can see why she's getting all the support.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Fact is...Hillary is going to break your heart if you think she is going to carry Obama's progressive legacy...much less sniff what Sanders is proposing. Hillary is beholden to Wall Street and so many various special interests...like big oil. She's going to reverse course on the Keystone XL pipeline if she gets into office (which would be a good thing, I wouldn't mind it).
She is also a "war hawk"...if she gets elected expect a ramp up in troops to Syria and Iraq.
Hillary clearly believes she deserves to be president...why do you think she suffered through all those embarrassing moments with Bill for? No one (unless they had political ambition) would of stayed with a man that serially cheated on them in a public way the way Bill did Hillary. Hillary thinks she deserves to be President Queen of America because she has played the political game, and has in some way earned it.
Never mind the fact that Hillary is secretive like Richard Nixon...I don't fully understand her appeal to Democrats? Is it truly only because she is a woman? Are the Democrats that willing to settle for a candidate with a backwards 1990 political economic/foreign policy mentality...just so they can say they nominated the first woman as a nominee?
They gonna lose with that kind of thinking...but let the sheep run off the cliff. |
What r u smoking? Obama is not progressive. In the Senate, Hillary was more progressive than both O and Biden by significant margins. Hillary has been more consistently progressive than Obama throughout her career
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l like Hillary because she panders. I think that is her strength. If the poll numbers shift she will shift her position. We need politicians actually representing the people not doing whatever they want. He had 16 years of politicians doing whatever they want. Now it's time for them to start doing what the people want.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Trump will be the greatest politician of all time if he is able to survive the controversy that is about to happen today. He literally just called for the murder of civilians.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Trump will be the greatest politician of all time if he is able to survive the controversy that is about to happen today. He literally just called for the murder of civilians.
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Anyways, if Slavery still exist somehow I imagine someone in the democratic party supporting it without a doubt
Who would she be?
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Yeah, um, I really don't think you fully understand the state of US politics if you're claiming that Trump is superior to anyone but Carson. Furthermore, accusing her of bandwagoning her politics is basically buying into literally the only media criticism of her and ignores that she voted the same as Bernie 94% of the time (establishing a solidly progressive voting record) and actually has solid stances on most things. Honestly, you're buying into a sexist portrayal of her as the indecisive woman, and a GOP-peddled portrayal as a malevolent figure only interested in her own gain because they can't handle her beating their asses.
Also claiming your country is "x10 better than the US " is straight up ignorant, rude, unjustifiable, and indicates to me that you shouldn't actually be having this conversation with someone who isn't demeaning your country or claiming that being #unapologetic and #raw is what's important in a political candidate of any sort.
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Originally posted by Meowster
Donald Trump went full out fascist the other week and you want to say he's "way better than Hillary?" |
Bergen must be a pocket of the Norges Nasjonalsosialistiske Bevegelse
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The full quote:
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"With the terrorists, you have to take out their families," Trump said during a "Fox & Friends" interview.
He argued that such tactics were necessary because the terrorists claim to not care about their own lives.
"When you get these terrorists, you have to take out their families," he repeated. "They care about their lives, don't kid yourselves. But they say they don't care about their lives. You have to take out their families."
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http://www.businessinsider.com/donal...s-isis-2015-12
Some will argue common sense. Some are going to scream Nazi.
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
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He's gonna surge in the polls, bookmark me.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Hillary when someone in the other room mentions Bernard
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This picture was SO SCARY when it popped up in my newsfeed 
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Originally posted by heckinglovato
I love them both so much now I'd definitely prefer Sanders to win but I'd support either primary winner. |
Wait, what? I thought you DESPISED Hill. Am I getting you confused with someone else? I think I am. Ignore that one time I went off on you. 
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Are you a Koch brothers shill? Or do you just not get US politics? I don't mean that to be patronizing, because that's totally understandable.but like....I think you're getting party associations mixed up or something.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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So why was I reported?
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Member Since: 6/20/2012
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Originally posted by Citrus
This picture was SO SCARY when it popped up in my newsfeed
Wait, what? I thought you DESPISED Hill. Am I getting you confused with someone else? I think I am. Ignore that one time I went off on you. |
That was definitely me, I really like her now, though.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Re; Hill being secretive, I attribute her reluctance to the media exposure over time. Same reason some pop stars are so private. And the whole "she's not a progressive" thing is based on a handful of many, many votes. It's like saying Bernie is pro-NRA because of the Brady Bill vote. If you want to find "proof" that Hillary is a republican hiding as a democrat, you can find it. But if you look at voting records in spite of contributions, I think it's fairly easy to see that she's been a progressive for her entire political career.
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