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I didn't know mods could be so closed-minded..
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Would the mod who deleted my thread please clarify how my thread was against the rules and got deleted? If they even have a logical reason?
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Originally posted by Luke.
Would the mod who deleted my thread please clarify how my thread was against the rules and got deleted? If they even have a logical reason?
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It was a thread asking ATRL to discuss family members who have sex with each other. I'm not sure why you thought that was an appropriate topic.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by supaspaz
It was a thread asking ATRL to discuss family members who have sex with each other. I'm not sure why you thought that was an appropriate topic.
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I kinda knew you were the mod connected at this time 
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Originally posted by supaspaz
It was a thread asking ATRL to discuss family members who have sex with each other. I'm not sure why you thought that was an appropriate topic.
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I know what incest is. Did it go against any rule, though? or did you not like it based on your beliefs and opinions so you just decided to delete it?
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Originally posted by Luke.
Did it go against any rule, though? or did you not like it based on your beliefs and opinions so you just decided to delete it?
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"Do not post content that is sexually explicit"
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@Luke. the mods might not directly tell you this but ATRL has basically become a family-friendly, heavily censored site because of restrictions placed by advertisers. A thread about incest is not allowed under those restrictions. You'd have to frame it in a very specific way, perhaps as a discussion of laws with a highly-researched OP, something that doesn't make it look like a clickbait "scandalous controversial topic omgg!!" thread.
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Originally posted by supaspaz
"Do not post content that is sexually explicit"
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I didn't post any pictures or videos or any content, which is what that rule suggests. Going by your logic, you would delete a thread if it was simply discussing homosexuality.
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Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Originally posted by Pozeidon
I kinda knew you were the mod connected at this time 
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Thanks? I wish I could say the same, but I'm not sure who you are.
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Originally posted by GreasyBruce
@Luke. the mods might not directly tell you this but ATRL has basically become a family-friendly, heavily censored site because of restrictions placed by advertisers. A thread about incest is not allowed under those restrictions. You'd have to frame it in a very specific way, perhaps as a discussion of laws with a highly-researched OP, something that doesn't make it look like a clickbait "scandalous controversial topic omgg!!" thread.
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Did you see the thread? It was discussing if incest is right or wrong and I clarified everything in the OP saying that it's about when it's consented and they're adults. It's a real thing that's worth discussing and not "sexually explicit" in any way.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Originally posted by Luke.
I didn't post any pictures or videos or any content, which is what that rule suggests. Going by your logic, you would delete a thread if it was simply discussing homosexuality.
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The title of the thread was just "Incest." You weren't asking a question or posing a theory—you were posting a provocative topic and hoping for a hit.
Furthermore, incest is a sexual relationship between family members. So it's explicit by definition. To discuss that would necessitate bringing up a lot of things that go against ATRL guidelines.
And finally, the thread went off the rails with the first reply. No one was taking it seriously, and there was no actual conversation happening.
The reason I deleted it instead of simply closing it was to avoid having all of that mess spill over into HQ. But I see that didn't work out, unfortunately.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Originally posted by supaspaz
The title of the thread was just "Incest." You weren't asking a question or posing a theory—you were posting a provocative topic and hoping for a hit.
Furthermore, incest is sexual relations between family members. So it's explicit by definition. To discuss would necessitate bringing up a lot of things that go against ATRL guidelines.
And finally, the thread went off the rails with the first reply. No one was taking it seriously, and there was no actual conversation happening.
The reason I deleted it instead of simply closing it was to avoid having all of that mess spill over into HQ, but I see that didn't work out, unfortunately.
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It was directly about incest, should I choose "Let's talk about incest!" instead? you can change the title if you want, it's not a valid reason to delete a whole thread because of it. I can't fit the information in the title but it's there in the OP and I wanted to discuss it. Trust me, getting a "hit" thread in ATRL is not something I strive for.
Homosexuality is sexual attractions and relations between the same gender.. it's explicit by definition too. In fact, a lot of explicit topics are made everywhere in ATRL but they don't get closed, let alone deleted.
It didn't even go past ten replies because you swiftly deleted it. If idiotic and unnecessary comments made by ATRLers could cost the deletion of a thread than 80% of this site would be empty.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Luke.
It was directly about incest, should I choose "Let's talk about incest!" instead? you can change the title if you want, it's not a valid reason to delete a whole thread because of it. I can't fit the information in the title but it's there in the OP and I wanted to discuss it. Trust me, getting a "hit" thread in ATRL is not something I strive for.
Homosexuality is sexual attractions and relations between the same gender.. it's explicit by definition too. In fact, a lot of explicit topics are made everywhere in ATRL but they don't get closed, let alone deleted.
It didn't even go past ten replies because you swiftly deleted it. If idiotic and unnecessary comments made by ATRLers could cost the deletion of a thread than 80% of this site would be empty.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 3/18/2009
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Quote:
Originally posted by Luke.
It was directly about incest, should I choose "Let's talk about incest!" instead? you can change the title if you want, it's not a valid reason to delete a whole thread because of it. I can't fit the information in the title but it's there in the OP and I wanted to discuss it. Trust me, getting a "hit" thread in ATRL is not something I strive for.
Homosexuality is sexual attractions and relations between the same gender.. it's explicit by definition too. In fact, a lot of explicit topics are made everywhere in ATRL but they don't get closed, let alone deleted.
It didn't even go past ten replies because you swiftly deleted it. If idiotic and unnecessary comments made by ATRLers could cost the deletion of a thread than 80% of this site would be empty.
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I deleted the thread because of all four of those reasons combined, not just the title. (Though something straightforward and respectful like "Is incest really wrong?" would at least suggest an effort to discuss the topic seriously.)
There were also 19 replies when I deleted the thread. The first was "Delete it, mods." The second was "Lord preserve us on this unholy day." The third was just a smiley. The fourth was "Neaux." The fifth was "Happy Halloween!" There was no conversation to preserve.
Any mod would have made the same decision I did. You don't have to like it, but please understand that it was a completely rational choice I made based on the rules of the site. Now we're done discussing this in HQ. If you'd like to dispute it any further, please send a help request.
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Supa 
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Originally posted by supaspaz
I deleted the thread because of all four of those reasons combined, not just the title. (Though something straightforward and respectful like "Is incest really wrong?" would at least suggest an effort to discuss the topic seriously.)
There were also 19 replies when I deleted the thread. The first was "Delete it, mods." The second was "Lord preserve us on this unholy day." The third was just a smiley. The fourth was "Neaux." The fifth was "Happy Halloween!" There was no conversation to preserve.
Any mod would have made the same decision I did. You don't have to like it, but please understand that it was a completely rational choice I made based on the rules of the site. Now we're done discussing this in HQ. If you'd like to dispute it any further, please send a help request.
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Those four "reasons" aren't even logical as explained in my last post.
What was disrespectful about Incest being a title? it's as straightforward as you can get.
Delete those stupid comments then, warn the members. Why delete the thread?
I guess now I learned that a serious topic like the one I made would go over some ATRLer's small brains and they'll act childish on it. I made a mistake creating the thread in a site that's full of immature people that would blindly go against something so quickly backed up with no valid reason. I should've known.
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Member Since: 10/8/2011
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
Who's that supposed to be?
Rainbow...GaGa, Kylie or Madonna?
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Kylie's Impossible Princess. 
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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I'm stanning for this gaycat. 
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 4/4/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by Luke.
Those four "reasons" aren't even logical as explained in my last post.
What was disrespectful about Incest being a title? it's as straightforward as you can get.
Delete those stupid comments then, warn the members. Why delete the thread?
I guess now I learned that a serious topic like the one I made would go over some ATRLer's small brains and they'll act childish on it. I made a mistake creating the thread in a site that's full of immature people that would blindly go against something so quickly backed up with no valid reason. I should've known.
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First of all, moderators of ATRL reserve the right to remove, edit, move, or close any thread, for any reason, supaspaz gave you a valid reason to why it was the right decision to delete the thread, and he didn't even need to justify himself (let alone, this many times). Just accept it, and move on. But you are actually right about how members can't usually handle and discuss serious topics, that's one the reasons why they are closed (or deleted) 99% of the time. ATRL isn't really the place to discuss topics like those. And this is not a new policy.
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Going to update the ban list in a sec. Edit: Done!
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
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H-I-M 81 Days, 13 Hours [Used VanityEgo's account while being banned; 3 permanent points also added]
Neonika 84 Days, 5 Hours [Invasion of privacy: PromKing blog]
katara 98 Days, 12 Hours [Always trolling]
When did this all happen 
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