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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016: Primary Season
Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
I'm not going to be embarrassed because some idiot thinks they're superior to me. Hillary is a crook and a fraud and the media doesn't want to talk about it. Stop trying to make her some poor victim. She's doing nothing for anyone but herself.
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You are so invested in Hillary's demise that you fail to have a little perspective. Instead, you resort to outlandish accusations and unsubstantiated statements to make your point. With that, it's hard for anybody to take you seriously.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
You are so invested in Hillary's demise that you fail to have a little perspective. Instead, you resort to outlandish accusations and unsubstantiated statements to make your point. With that, it's hard for anybody to take you seriously.
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How about you rebutt my points instead of talking out of your ass?
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
How about you rebutt my points instead of talking out of your ass?
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Rebutt what points? All you have done is make a fool out of yourself by posting outdated and unsubstantiated statements. I don't think any of your ridiculous assumptions even deserve a rebuttal. I'm not here to school you, you have to do that for yourself.
Thanks for calling me an 'idiot', however. Although, I do hope you're not representative of Bernie supporters.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
How about you rebutt my points instead of talking out of your ass?
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It's going to hurt when Chanel. brings down the ban hammer of justice on you. Be blessed.
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Member Since: 4/4/2011
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Don't even get started on Women's rights. Hillary has done unbelievable life-changing things for women around the world.
Wow, now I see how misinformed some of you actually are on these election candidates... Absolutely shocking.
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Where are your examples? Don't talk about misinformation when you haven't provided ANYTHING!
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
How about you rebutt my points instead of talking out of your ass?
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Exactly. I brought up Hillary's Wall Street faux pas in the debate and have seen ZERO rebuttals of it. Just all the round stupid.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Lights and Waves
It's going to hurt when Chanel. brings down the ban hammer of justice on you. Be blessed.
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For disagreeing with them? I like to think that anyone who got to moderator status isn't so petty. That's actually pretty insulting to Chanel. that you think they're so corrupt.
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Rebutt what points? All you have do is make a fool out of yourself by posting outdated and unsubstantiated statements. I don't think any of your ridiculous assumptions even deserve a rebuttal.
Thanks for calling me an 'idiot', however. Although, I do hope you're not representative of Bernie supporters.
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Funny how you keep saying that my points make no sense and now you change it to I have no points so you don't have to actually debate anything
I can tell you're the usual Hillary supporter since you don't actually like talking facts.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Mean Trees
Where are your examples? Don't talk about misinformation when you have provided ANYTHING!
Exactly. I brought up Hillary's Wall Street faux pas in the debate and have seen ZERO defence of it. Just all the round stupid.
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I'm not going to browse the Internet to find sources to school people who should have already schooled themselves. Instead, I'll quite enjoy watching you both make further fools of yourselves.
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15.3 million people watched
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
I'm not going to browse the Internet to find sources to school people who should have already schooled themselves. Instead, I'll quite enjoy watching you both make further fools of yourselves.
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So basically you know the evidence doesn't support you.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
So basically you know the evidence doesn't support you.
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Again, do you always jump to unsubstantiated assumptions? This is becoming unbelievably petty.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
Again, do you always jump to unsubstantiated assumptions? This is becoming unbelievably petty.
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If evidence supporting your claims existed, you would post them. Simple as that. Don't call me a fool when your beliefs aren't based in fact and instead just on what you're told.
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DBW, what? It doesn't sound stupid at all. The media has been kicking Hillary's ASS since The New York Times first broke the email story. And there's been essentially nothing but positive articles about Bernie. Stop being subjective.
Secondly, all the progressive BABIES claims conspiracy for the media declaring Hillary the winner, ignoring the fact that his supporters are mostly young, blind and naive and would've voted for him as the winner even if he performed like Lincoln Chafer.
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Member Since: 4/4/2011
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
If evidence supporting your claims existed, you would post them. Simple as that. Don't call me a fool when your beliefs aren't based in fact and instead just on what you're told.
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Oop.
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
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And now they feel emboldened by these very same transparent polls to say she "DOMINATED" the debate
Hillary is the best public speaker of the five and clearly more rehearsed than Sanders, and as the most traditionally "politician" of the five she had her talking points and really drove them in during her allotted time better (and planned a counter to all of the attack points pretty well, unlike Sanders on guns), but to say she DOMINATED is a stretch. In terms of purely the debate, she did the best, but not by much. Anyway I'm confident the the polls will show Sanders gaining more than her, in spite of the mainstream media's best attempts to pretend what we saw last night was a Hillary Clinton speech; he seemed to be the most popular with the crowd, unsurprisingly as the disconnect between insiders and the GP knows no bounds.
Moving forward, the democrats as a whole need to stop playing nice, doing so only favors Hillary. They could have took her to task better during that Wall st section, or brought up her flip-flopping when they discussed Iraq and asked "why should we elect a president who keeps being, by their own admission, wrong?"/made points along those lines.
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Agreed.
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Originally posted by Giselle
DBW, what? It doesn't sound stupid at all. The media has been kicking Hillary's ASS since The New York Times first broke the email story. And there's been essentially nothing but positive articles about Bernie. Stop being subjective.
Secondly, all the progressive BABIES claims conspiracy for the media declaring Hillary the winner, ignoring the fact that his supporters are mostly young, blind and naive and would've voted for him as the winner even if he performed like Lincoln Chafer.
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Except they haven't  Only Fox has, and just because it's good for ratings.
Lincoln did better than Hillary (and he has ethical standards!) so let's not.
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Originally posted by Giselle
...and would've voted for him as the winner even if he performed like Lincoln Chafer.
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Chafee*, but the misspelling honestly only highlights how much of a non-factor he's been.
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Lincoln did better than Hillary (and he has ethical standards!) so let's not.
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Originally posted by ShouldersSideways
I like Bernie Sanders but there are so many people - classmates, friends - that can't name one reason why they support him when I ask other than "he's an outsider." It's worrisome to me that this generation is willing to ride Tumblr and Twitter memes all the way to the election without actually educating themselves. The worst part is that they believe they're much more enlightened because they support Sanders.
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Is that better or worse than riding the mainstream media to the election? And for the record, I've heard plenty of women irl supporting Hillary because "it's time" (want to guess what that is referencing?) or gays on this site who will stan anything with female reproductive organs flat out saying "not here for another old white man". Yay, we can both use anecdotal accounts to attempt to de-legitimize the other side!
There are plenty of reasons to support Sanders over Clinton ie: his consistently more liberal policies being necessary to swing the national debate more to the left/center at the very least, less flip-flops throughout his political career making him the more reliable candidate than someone even their mainstream media backers admit could be being "pushed to the left" (for votes), being correct on issues Hill was wrong on ages ago (Iraq, same sex marriage being the two most cited ones), and just generally focusing his campaign more on tackling income equality which is an issue for poorer/lower middle class people and students, which most likely fall into the groups you've mentioned.
Do Clinton supporters have objective, valid reasons for supporting her? Sure. But don't think that just because you asked someone a question on the spot and they weren't thoroughly able to answer, that it means they don't have valid reasons. This "Bernie's supporters are just young tumblr users!" narrative is about as fair as "Hillary's supporters are just feminists!"
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Member Since: 4/27/2012
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
Except they haven't  Only Fox has, and just because it's good for ratings.
Lincoln did better than Hillary (and he has ethical standards!) so let's not.
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Yeah, you're clearly blind and aren't trying to have objective convo  Go to ANY major news site other than (maybe) CNN, type Hillary's name in the search bar and you will see ENDLESS articles about dropping poll numbers and emails. And the fact that you said Lincoln CHAFEE performed better than her CLEARY shows you aren't trying to be objective  I know you hate Hillary but at least out your personal feelings aside to have a productive conversation.
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Originally posted by Chanel.
Chafee*, but the misspelling honestly only highlights how much of a non-factor he's been.
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n; I'm on mobile, excuse the typos.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Bey Admired
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You mean they need to starting acting like petulant children dressed up as politicians? You mean they need to start acting like Republicans?
No, thanks.
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Relax. There's a fine line between what I said and acting like republicans 
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Originally posted by Alejandrawrrr
Is that better or worse than riding the mainstream media to the election? And for the record, I've heard plenty of women irl supporting Hillary because "it's time" (want to guess what that is referencing?) or gays on this site who will stan anything with female reproductive organs flat out saying "not here for another old white man". Yay, we can both use anecdotal accounts to attempt to de-legitimize the other side!
There are plenty of reasons to support Sanders over Clinton ie: his consistently more liberal policies being necessary to swing the national debate more to the left/center at the very least, less flip-flops throughout his political career making him the more reliable candidate than someone even their mainstream media backers admit could be being "pushed to the left" (for votes), being correct on issues Hill was wrong on ages ago (Iraq, same sex marriage being the two most cited ones), and just generally focusing his campaign more on tackling income equality which is an issue for poorer/lower middle class people and students, which most likely fall into the groups you've mentioned.
Do Clinton supporters have objective, valid reasons for supporting her? Sure. But don't think that just because you asked someone a question on the spot and they weren't thoroughly able to answer, that it means they don't have valid reasons. This "Bernie's supporters are just young tumblr users!" narrative is about as fair as "Hillary's supporters are just feminists!"
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Regarding the last line, wrong. His base is absolutely filled with young, first time voters who don't know much about politics. No shade, all tea. Bernie support is SWEEPING tumblr and that general age group. That's not baseless.
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