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Discussion: Pop girls who were Rich before Fame
Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by wanderlust
i think her dad paid for her apartment didn't he?
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Even if that's true it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not she'd become famous. Maybe she would have had to have a job to pay that rent, but she's very driven.
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Originally posted by suburbannature
You say this and yet Gaga grew up in NYC in a very expensive apartment with much more money than Lana, who lived in a middle-class neighborhood in upstate NY.
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Ya. Gaga grew up on the Upper West Side, went to one of the best private Catholic schools in NYC (which costs more than most of your college tuitions per year), and then attended the infamously expensive NYU Tisch school for a semester or two. She was only dirt poor when her parents kicked her out and made her pay for her own living, even though I find it hard to believe that she was able to afford an apartment in Manhattan by waiting tables and doing burlesque shows.
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Originally posted by Archetype
Ya. Gaga grew up on the Upper West Side, went to one of the best private Catholic schools in NYC (which costs more than most of your college tuitions per year), and then attended the infamously expensive NYU Tisch school for a semester or two. She was only dirt poor when her parents kicked her out and made her pay for her own living, even though I find it hard to believe that she was able to afford an apartment in Manhattan by waiting tables and doing burlesque shows.
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You don't have to be rich to live in the Upper West Side and attend a private school
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Originally posted by Archetype
Ya. Gaga grew up on the Upper West Side, went to one of the best private Catholic schools in NYC (which costs more than most of your college tuitions per year), and then attended the infamously expensive NYU Tisch school for a semester or two. She was only dirt poor when her parents kicked her out and made her pay for her own living, even though I find it hard to believe that she was able to afford an apartment in Manhattan by waiting tables and doing burlesque shows.
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Her apartment was in Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Even if it was in Manhattan, the real estate wasn't as bad 10 years ago as it is today. Also, colleges like NYU have Financial Aid and you definitely don't need to be upper class or even upper middle class to attend.
The only thing Gaga had was the comfort of knowing that if her career attempt failed, she had a stable family to go back home to.
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Originally posted by MonsterOfFame
Her apartment was in Brooklyn, not Manhattan. Even if it was in Manhattan, the real estate wasn't as bad 10 years ago as it is today. Also, colleges like NYU have Financial Aid and you definitely don't need to be upper class or even upper middle class to attend.
The only thing Gaga had was the comfort of knowing that if her career attempt failed, she had a stable family to go back home to.
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Her apartment was in the East Village. She showed her old apartment in her 20/20 interview. She grew up wealthy.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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sorry but as a stan of both lana and gaga, calling them middle class is ridiculous
gaga grew up comfortable in nyc, living in a gorgeous apartment on the upper west side and attended a school that costs more to go to each year than my mother earns a year. be realistic, they were borderline rich at LEAST. i can't say much about lana but her father did have money maybe not as much as gaga but they weren't exactly poor or even lower middle class. i mean come on lanas parents could afford to send her to boarding school at 14.
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Originally posted by artpop
sorry but as a stan of both lana and gaga, calling them middle class is ridiculous
gaga grew up comfortable in nyc, living in a gorgeous apartment on the upper west side and attended a school that costs more to go to each year than my mother earns a year. be realistic, they were borderline rich at LEAST. i can't say much about lana but her father did have money maybe not as much as gaga but they weren't exactly poor or even lower middle class. i mean come on lanas parents could afford to send her to boarding school at 14.
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I remember reading that Lana's aunt and uncle paid for her boarding school. Or she got a scholarship.
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Only on ATRL would this be an actual argument
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Originally posted by suburbannature
I remember reading that Lana's aunt and uncle paid for her boarding school. Or she got a scholarship.
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regardless she was sent to kent school which currently states for a 2015/6 student it costs about 80 grand a year.
also i remember reading she was sent by her parents to sober up.
http://www.kent-school.edu/admissions/tuition-and-fees
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by artpop
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I went to private school my entire pre-college life, but I still consider my family to be upper middle class.
There is no solid evidence to show that Lana was "rich," and I feel like most things contradict that.
Regardless, during the beginning of her career, she lived by herself in a trailer park and independently supported herself.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by suburbannature
I went to private school my entire pre-college life, but I still consider my family to be upper middle class.
There is no solid evidence to show that Lana was "rich," and I feel like most things contradict that.
Regardless, during the beginning of her career, she lived by herself in a trailer park and independently supported herself.
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If you or anyone are attending a school that costs more to attend than most families of two adults earn annually you are well off and you have to deal with that, i don't really care what you consider yourself to be, its common sense and logic.
In your case upper middle class would probably be correct.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Upper middle class in the USA is plain rich. Deal with it.
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Y'all are still here? Lordt.
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Originally posted by Toxicity.
The only things who actually went from rags to riches are probably Katy, P!nk, Britney and obviously Rihanna.
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Don't forget Christina who had a very tough road to fame with her abusive dad.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by swissman
There seems to be the impression that you're better if you're poor before becoming famous.
If you're rich girl whose family's money got you recording sessions and you have little talent, that's one thing. If you were well off but worked your hard like Beyoncé and Gaga (getting dropped, living on less money than you're used to as you pursue your dreams, etc.) there is really no fault there and in fact it's more impressive that you knew luxury but chose to sacrifice that comfort to get what you want, rather than simply being discovered and groomed for stardom.
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This. Like people are actually trying to make their faves appear poorer on purpose and denying their wealth just to have some rag to riches story, as if that makes them better artistes. So sad
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Why is this an issue. Why do y'all care so much
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by swissman
There seems to be the impression that you're better if you're poor before becoming famous.
If you're rich girl whose family's money got you recording sessions and you have little talent, that's one thing. If you were well off but worked your hard like Beyoncé and Gaga (getting dropped, living on less money than you're used to as you pursue your dreams, etc.) there is really no fault there and in fact it's more impressive that you knew luxury but chose to sacrifice that comfort to get what you want, rather than simply being discovered and groomed for stardom.
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Except it's true? No doubt the likes of Beyonce used their talents and got their careers fair and square, but they still had the opportunity handed or made easier to them. If you're not as financially privileged, you have to work hard with your talent but also getting that opportunity in the first place.
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Why is this still a thing?
Money doesn't buy you a place in music.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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But non of these girls were POOR though. They all lived in first world countries.
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Originally posted by Brinny Baby
But non of these girls were POOR though. They all lived in first world countries.
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Rihanna did not.
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