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Discussion: Lil'Kim Vs Foxy Vs Nicki (who's The BEST female MC)
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Originally posted by Flare
When I read this, all I see is stan overhyping. The points you make are from a stan perspective. You don't even attempt to be unbiased. It's sad. With that said, I'll address what I can actively correct you on. In the bold, I said the rap world/media. You can find articles from the 90s and earlier from magazines archived only. You won't find any deeming Kim as the best part of that song. Sorry
However, Monster wss universially hailed as Nicki's coming out and putting Kanye and Jay in a corner. You can't change that no matter how much you dislike Nicki (for whatever silly reason).
As for Foxy again, I never said, her success was increasing. I just said the success would have came had she not gone to jail. Every artist is entitled to their time to release more music and show themselves and improve. Foxy was denied that by her jail sentence. Broken Silence as I said is more respected now than when it was released. More publications now claim it as one of the best rap albums of the 00s.
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It's never that serious 
Foxy had no success left in her, radio wrote her off after Hot Spot and never played her subsequent singles, unfair but true. She had a solid career ahead of her and maybe more acclaim, but the exact same can be said about Kim's jail sentence right after scoring a 5-mic album.
And last but not least, never in this thread did I post anything hateful about Nicki. I said she hasn't put out a fully rap album, which is true. I said most of her hits are pop or pop driven, which is true. I said she follows the lane Kim, Foxy and the other girls carved, which is true. Did I drag her? Disrespect her? Call her a flop or untalented? No.
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Originally posted by LilKim
Kimberly 'Lil' Kim' Denise Jones.
She revolutionized the female rap industry and pop culture single handedly. She broke down barriers and tackled misogyny and stereotyping within the game and challenged the men. She spoke unapologetic-ally on topics that were foreseen as Taboo and unfamiliar territory for women. She gave a whole range of woman the opportunity to showcase their talent and thrive in a male dominated world by doing this.
Kim's stage presence 20 YEARS after her debut proves just how much of a legacy and great this woman is, Her music stood the test of time and is valued as greatness in the low par 'rap' music that's being produced today.
Her flow, ability to express her struggles and needs through her lyricism and whole imagery also play in par with the stated above. Everything about kim was so re-refreshing and authentic, she pushed the boundaries. The fact she had 2 college courses breaking down her lyrics and analyzing her stance and POV with them just shows how great she is.
Kim's the reason Foxy and the other one are even MENTIONED.
And don't even, because I know everyone saw the BUTCH covered up foxy who debuted on LL's 'I Shot Ya'
I could go all day, but kim needs no 10 page essay upon why her greatness prevails and shines through the countless women who continuously emulate and try to be like her.
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Literally only her fashion slayed the pop industry... Just s lil bit. And she didn't own the rap industry she wasn't top 5 most successful rappers of her time , like Nicki is today. You can't compare her to a pop star like you can with Nicki today. Quit the reaching sis.
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Originally posted by Ibeezinit
Roman reloaded **** face.
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Last reported this years, it was at 900k, Even with Shipments, a re-release and like 8 singles.
ouch.
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Originally posted by Ibeezinit
& death at that chick who' said "Missy>>>". Girl bye. Missy's best lyric was "CHOO CHA CHANG CHA".
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Yikes I'm still screaming! 
Sig worthy!
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Originally posted by Rogue
Yikes I'm still screaming!
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Are you laughing cuz it's funny
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Originally posted by Ibeezinit
Well duh. What do you expect , hardcore rap can't extend to that point. Kim should've hopped on a track with Britney or Christina. But was her brand big enough ?
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Kim has a song with BOTH log out you're DONE
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Originally posted by Ibeezinit
Literally only her fashion slayed the pop industry... Just s lil bit. And she didn't own the rap industry she wasn't top 5 most successful rappers of her time , like Nicki is today. You can't compare her to a pop star like you can with Nicki today. Quit the reaching sis.
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Is that why your fave ripped off countless looks from her? Well, atleast you've come to terms your fave is categorized as pop. You do have the ability to compare the competition that was prevalent to how it is now? The only female kim didn't outsell in the 90's-00's femcee's was Ms. Lauryn Hill. So your saying, I can't compare Ms Queen Bee Jones style to a 'pop-star' today, but you can with your fave... who basically is emulating kim's style?
the
logic?
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Originally posted by LilKim
Is that why your fave ripped off countless looks from her? Well, atleast you've come to terms your fave is categorized as pop. You do have the ability to compare the competition that was prevalent to how it is now? The only female kim didn't outsell in the 90's-00's femcee's was Ms. Lauryn Hill. So your saying, I can't compare Ms Queen Bee Jones style to a 'pop-star' today, but I can with your fave... who basically is emulating kim's style?
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I never said she wasn't th most successful female rapper , I said she wasn't the most successful rapper of her time , like Nicki is today.
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Originally posted by LilKim
Kimberly 'Lil' Kim' Denise Jones.
She revolutionized the female rap industry and pop culture single handedly. She broke down barriers and tackled misogyny and stereotyping within the game and challenged the men. She spoke unapologetic-ally on topics that were foreseen as Taboo and unfamiliar territory for women. She gave a whole range of woman the opportunity to showcase their talent and thrive in a male dominated world by doing this.
Kim's stage presence 20 YEARS after her debut proves just how much of a legacy and great this woman is, Her music stood the test of time and is valued as greatness in the low par 'rap' music that's being produced today.
Her flow, ability to express her struggles and needs through her lyricism and whole imagery also play in par with the stated above. Everything about kim was so re-refreshing and authentic, she pushed the boundaries. The fact she had 2 college courses breaking down her lyrics and analyzing her stance and POV with them just shows how great she is.
Kim's the reason Foxy and the other one are even MENTIONED.
And don't even, because I know everyone saw the BUTCH covered up foxy who debuted on LL's 'I Shot Ya'
I could go all day, but kim needs no 10 page essay upon why her greatness prevails and shines through the countless women who continuously emulate and try to be like her.
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Did you just write all of that? ROFL that **** needs a cover letter. Kim isn't even a real emcee. One day after she spit out Biggie's load of ***, he said that she was gonna TEACH her how to rap, and throw her in his rap group full of his cousins and neighborhood friends. Biggie taught Kim how to rap, gave her a style to run with, and pen her entire first album. Nobody cares about all that other ********.
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Originally posted by KillaCham.
Did you just write all of that? ROFL that **** needs a cover letter. Kim isn't even a real emcee. One day after she spit out Biggie's load of ***, he said that she was gonna TEACH her how to rap, and throw her in his rap group full of his cousins and neighborhood friends. Biggie taught Kim how to rap, gave her a style to run with, and pen her entire first album. Nobody cares about all that other ********.
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Originally posted by Adonis
Nicki easily. Im shocked this is even a discussion on here. Kim came first but even she was a rip off of Yoyo and Salt N Pepa.
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RU serious?
U girls NEED stick to Pop cause U all certainly don't a thing about Rap/Hip-Hop smh.
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Originally posted by KillaCham.
Did you just write all of that? ROFL that **** needs a cover letter. Kim isn't even a real emcee. One day after she spit out Biggie's load of ***, he said that she was gonna TEACH her how to rap, and throw her in his rap group full of his cousins and neighborhood friends. Biggie taught Kim how to rap, gave her a style to run with, and pen her entire first album. Nobody cares about all that other ********.
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This all was debunked like 2 weeks ago tho
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Foxy was the better rapper, Kim was the better artist.
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Originally posted by KillaCham.
Did you just write all of that? ROFL that **** needs a cover letter. Kim isn't even a real emcee. One day after she spit out Biggie's load of ***, he said that she was gonna TEACH her how to rap, and throw her in his rap group full of his cousins and neighborhood friends. Biggie taught Kim how to rap, gave her a style to run with, and pen her entire first album. Nobody cares about all that other ********.
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This old, outdated fanfic
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If you think BIG didn't write Kim **** then you are delusional and in denial.
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Lil Kim. im sorry I cant really debate with 14 year olds on this issue though. sorry girls! 
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
This all was debunked like 2 weeks ago tho
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pr00f?
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Originally posted by KillaCham.
Did you just write all of that? ROFL that **** needs a cover letter. Kim isn't even a real emcee. One day after she spit out Biggie's load of ***, he said that she was gonna TEACH her how to rap, and throw her in his rap group full of his cousins and neighborhood friends. Biggie taught Kim how to rap, gave her a style to run with, and pen her entire first album. Nobody cares about all that other ********.
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that's cute white boy, He was her protege and mentor, showing her how to vocally project is content with the process of some as the art of Hip Hop white boy. It's comes as no surprise you see Ms Minaj as a 'rapper' with songs like 'Starships' Vo Voom' 'Her Whole Discography', Yet are quick to discredit a Female who's categorized as 'Gangsta Rap' I could care less upon what you believe, Multiple collaborators and the Hard Core producer confirmed she wrote her rhymes and wrote them in-front of them. You stay stuck on 'biggie wrote her rhymes though', it's as funny as 'Inga can actually still hear'. Biggie wasn't the one who initially pushed for the sex appeal, it was Kim & D-Roc, she said she wanted to be like Madonna and Roc agreed.
Don't forget to stop by LilKimZone's Forums white boy! It's great to see you're fixation on the queen is still as strong. We even have your doppleganger Ms MoOoKiE still glued to the boards!
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