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Poll: Bigger era: 1989 or GGGB?
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View Poll Results: Bigger era
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1989
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55.49% |
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Good Girl Gone Bad
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142 |
44.51% |
Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Giselle
1989 will outsell it (if it hasn't already) and the tour will certainly gross way more. It'll most likely be winning more awards in addition to two smashes.
Not to mention Taylor's visability and impact is a lot bigger than Rih's during the GGGB era. 1989. |
Yeah no.
Taylor might slay in the US sales department, but her visibility and impact is not bigger than Rihanna's.
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The 1989 Stadium World Tour alone is bigger than anything Rihanna has ever done.  This is a bad comparison for ole RiRi. Don't do her like this.
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Originally posted by M A R C
Yeah no.
Taylor might slay in the US sales department, but her visibility and impact is not bigger than Rihanna's. |
yes they are stop lying to yourself
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Rihanna because she was able to slay in a highly competitive environment. Taylor is slaying in an environment when there is no one else really competing with her TBQH.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Artemisia
yes they are stop lying to yourself
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You're lying to your self hun.
She has the big numbers, but yet no impact to go with it.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by M A R C
Yeah no.
Taylor might slay in the US sales department, but her visibility and impact is not bigger than Rihanna's. |
Apple backing down from Taylor has more 'impact' than anything Riri has ever done. That is real IMPACT. Felt Worldwide.
Going to the MET Gala and having egg omelette memes made from your dress on twitter is not 'impact'  oh navy.
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What is this 'impact' nonsense the Navy clings to all the time now?  Whenever Beyonce is compared to Rihanna it's always, "sales, sales, massive singles, sales, she outsold her" to prove that she's bigger. Now that Rihanna is on the opposite side it's, 'okay, Taylor may have awards, industry respect, album sales, and touring but let's discuss IMPACT.'
A purchase in smaller markets is not more important than a purchase from the US. The 'global' argument is just some idiotic fiction made up to seem smart. Taylor sold more, she wins.
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Originally posted by M A R C
You're lying to your self hun.
She has the big numbers, but yet no impact to go with it. |
The visibility from the 1989 era alone crushes Rihanna. Between her music releases, run ins with Apple and Spotify, and general slayage, Taylor has been all over the ****ing news and media. She's absolutely inescapable.
Rihanna has never made that kind of media impact aside from the Chris Brown incident, but that's not music related and it happened after the GGGB era.
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Originally posted by Deemy
Good Girl Gone Bad felt Bigger. And as of right now, still is.
The people using sales... Umm honey.. Taylor is an Established artist before 1989. GGB was Rihanna's breakthrough.
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Taylor is out peaking her biggest era (Fearless). That alone is much more impressive than a breakthrough. Pop artist peaks are their most remembered moments, and a lot of them only have one. Taylor has 3.
Taylor's streaming battle and going up against Apple is one for the history books. The 1989 tour is well on its way also.
If she wins Grammy AOTY, then that will cement 1989's status.
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Originally posted by Kh-Loud
Dead @umbrella being more iconic than the entire 1989 era. That song is already forgotten. Havnt heard it on the radio for years, no one ever mentioned about it other than the atrl navy, even rihanna herself forgot about that song dead.
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like this is just absolutely baffling, what is this impact the GGGB era made? jesus christ, yall will make up anything to discredit taylor.
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Originally posted by pika
What is this 'impact' nonsense the Navy clings to all the time now? Whenever Beyonce is compared to Rihanna it's always, "sales, sales, massive singles, sales, she outsold her" to prove that she's bigger. Now that Rihanna is on the opposite side it's, 'okay, Taylor may have awards, industry respect, album sales, and touring but let's discuss IMPACT.'
A purchase in smaller markets is not more important than a purchase from the US. The 'global' argument is just some idiotic fiction made up to seem smart. Taylor sold more, she wins. |
Well considering 1989 has yet to outsell GGGB or have a single as successful as Umbrella or DSTM globally... it's safe to say that GGGB not only has more impact but is also statistically the bigger album as of right now 
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Originally posted by pika
What is this 'impact' nonsense the Navy clings to all the time now? Whenever Beyonce is compared to Rihanna it's always, "sales, sales, massive singles, sales, she outsold her" to prove that she's bigger. Now that Rihanna is on the opposite side it's, 'okay, Taylor may have awards, industry respect, album sales, and touring but let's discuss IMPACT.'
A purchase in smaller markets is not more important than a purchase from the US. The 'global' argument is just some idiotic fiction made up to seem smart. Taylor sold more, she wins. |
!!! I mean they're talking about Umbrella as a classic (which I agree, it is) but they're not accounting for the fact that 1989 has been out for 8 months and the singles haven't had the time to even remotely prove that they can have the longevity of Umbrella because every 1989 single is still on Billboard.
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Quote:
Originally posted by pika
What is this 'impact' nonsense the Navy clings to all the time now? Whenever Beyonce is compared to Rihanna it's always, "sales, sales, massive singles, sales, she outsold her" to prove that she's bigger. Now that Rihanna is on the opposite side it's, 'okay, Taylor may have awards, industry respect, album sales, and touring but let's discuss IMPACT.'
A purchase in smaller markets is not more important than a purchase from the US. The 'global' argument is just some idiotic fiction made up to seem smart. Taylor sold more, she wins. |
"But BADGALRIRI is bigger in my 20k sparsely populated village in the mountains of Czechoslovakia! So that definitely means she's bigger worldwide than Taylor! Local! Not to mention RiRi's Global #majahIMPACT #NAVii #gunsintheair #G4L #braaaap"
like what are they even trying to say
I definitely feel that is HumanitySector's mentality. ^
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Originally posted by Toxicity.
"But BADGALRIRI is bigger in my 20k sparsely populated village in the mountains of Czechoslovakia! So that definitely means she's bigger worldwide than Taylor! Local! Not to mention RiRi's Global #majahIMPACT #NAVii #gunsintheair #G4L #braaaap"
like what are they even trying to say
I definitely feel that is HumanitySector's mentality. ^
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the shade is that Taylor sold out the exact same arena Rihanna did in his country where, apparently, no one knows Taylor.
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Originally posted by Deemy;28732121[b
]No.. because we know what she was going to sell before the album was released [/b]this is her third consecutive million week seller. It is impressive and we are not taking that from her but overall GGGB was a bigger era in the grand scheme of things that it changed Pop radio and shifted from its monotinous hip hop/R&B hits to more dancer pop songs.
It also was a bigger era overseas. For an artist that was just 2 years into the music industry to have an album that impactful is impressive. 1989 is just another Taylor Swift album, a good one but its nothing we havent seen from her or heard.
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What even?! 
1989 is not "just another Taylor Swift album" wth?!  It's known as her first documented pop album, she completely switched genres, and came out as the top pop artist, where she was already the top country artist. It is also cited as changing the streaming world 
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Originally posted by idkher
Well considering 1989 has yet to outsell GGGB or have a single as successful as Umbrella or DSTM globally... it's safe to say that GGGB not only has more impact but is also statistically the bigger album as of right now |
"Has YET to outsell GGGB" You do know you are referring to an album that is barely 8.5 months old right?! 
Btw, singles are not the only factor when you are comparing eras. Tbh, I don't even know wth that second acronym is that you listed.
Edit: nvmd, took me a minute, but I know the song now, my bad 
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Originally posted by idkher
Well considering 1989 has yet to outsell GGGB or have a single as successful as Umbrella or DSTM globally... it's safe to say that GGGB not only has more impact but is also statistically the bigger album as of right now |
It will outsell it in the end so the ' ' smiley as if you're somehow coming in to, 'clear things up, I've got the facts you wanted' is not really working.
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Reading back on this thread, it's actually exhausting to see how overrated 'globalness' is. It's like if a company sold 50 shirts that were all the same at one store while another company sold 10 shirts (same kind) at one store, then another 10 at a different store and then another 10 at a different store. If you said company 2 was more successful because their sales were more spread out then you'd be laugh at/judged/rightfully bullied. Again, Taylor wins and that's all there is to it.
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GGGB. 
+ 1989 is a cute album and I love the songs but GGGB as a era alone > 1989.
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Originally posted by pika
Reading back on this thread, it's actually exhausting to see how overrated 'globalness' is. It's like if a company sold 50 shirts that were all the same at one store while another company sold 10 shirts (same kind) at one store, then another 10 at a different store and then another 10 at a different store. If you said company 2 was more successful because their sales were more spread out then you'd be laugh at/judged/rightfully bullied.
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"That one company might have sold more, but it's local, whereas the other is REGIONAL! #IMPACT!  "
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