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Discussion: Has Rihanna Proven That She Is The Riskiest Pop Girl?
Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Retro
And the girls we time traveling to are still around, point?
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it depends what you define as "around" I mean sure they are alive, but thats about it in terms of impact.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Rafael
You mean since the days she was a Bey clone?
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How? Literally, what similarities do they have? Check your racism, stop comparing pop girls because of their skin colour.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by XXXO
You all are so annoying with Madonna. We all know the woman is no longer in the game, and she's been doing what the rest has done for 15 years now, stop with the riskiest **** with her cause that happened decades ago.
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So just because Madonna isn’t as relevant means that the major risks she took throughout her career are not applicable? The risks she took shaped the pop landscape and paved the way for people like Rihanna to do many things that today are not even considered a risk.
If we are talking about out of the people releasing music in 2015 that are still relevant, is Rihanna the most risky, then yes. But overall, no she is not.
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by romonster
This. She will always be 10 steps behind. 
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Why does that matter when Rihanna is still among the top of the Pop game and GaGa has precipitously fallen? Shock value was what GaGa needed to get her career started, which ironically succeeded in ending it (to a degree) as well.
Rihanna fared better with her third album (GGGB) than GaGa did with her third album (ARTPOP). Face facts.
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Member Since: 9/22/2011
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Gaga hasn't done anything as risky as this in at least five years, so yes!
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by Kisuke
Well it not surprising that she had to run to Nudity cause what else can she do ?
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The actual seething that can be sensed with this post.  The same person and stan group knocking her down for her nudity when previously they were all "omg, Bey should more skin before Rihanna was even a thing" "Bey did that ratchet , risque, sexual, murder, etc blah blah blah:
Surprised they aren't saying Rih copied/paid homage to the Hive's queen. 
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Member Since: 11/23/2011
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Eh, it still belongs to Gaga IMO. Gaga has done most of what Rihanna has been doing, and more. Including stuff like in the past year, having an artist vomit on her in a live performance.
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That wasn't art. That was straight up disgusting. If two girls, one cup is considered risky art to you, then I'm left speechless at that ludicrous view.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
The actual seething that can be sensed with this post.  The same person and stan group knocking her down for her nudity when previously there were all "omg, Bey should more skin before Rihanna was even a thing" "Bey did that ratchet , risque, sexual, murder, etc blah blah blah:
Surprised they aren't saying Rih copied/paid homage to the Hive's queen. 
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It's so funny how they claimed their fave "did all of that before Rihanna", but later bash her for doing the same thing. 
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by keerbyriri
How? Literally, what similarities do they have? Check your racism, stop comparing pop girls because of their skin colour.
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Certainly if they were a white and a black girl the comparisons would not have been made, but the comparisons were not about race, but in the type of popstar they were grooming her to be. This was a thing. This is not something people made up 7 years later, it was something that was talked about at the time.
Example:

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Member Since: 4/3/2014
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
That wasn't art. That was straight up disgusting. If two girls, one cup is considered risky art to you, then I'm left speechless at that ludicrous view.
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But who are you to determine what is and isn't art though.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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People trying to discredit Madonna
She has been risky from day 1 to today 
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Member Since: 11/17/2011
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Originally posted by swissman
Certainly if they were a white and a black girl the comparisons would not have been made, but the comparisons were not about race, but in the type of popstar they were grooming her to be. This was a thing. This is not something people made up 7 years later, it was something that was talked about at the time.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by EdgeOfAddiction
The actual seething that can be sensed with this post.  The same person and stan group knocking her down for her nudity when previously there were all "omg, Bey should more skin before Rihanna was even a thing" "Bey did that ratchet , risque, sexual, murder, etc blah blah blah:
Surprised they aren't saying Rih copied/paid homage to the Hive's queen. 
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It's unfair to speak on behalf of a stan group though, especially if you are not in it and are only judging it based on what sticks out most to you.
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Member Since: 6/19/2012
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Nothing was risky about this huge, calculated effort to bring attention to an era that has been an underperformance for Rihanna's standards.
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Member Since: 5/14/2009
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Originally posted by Reza
never have I seen a woman with her breasts out get a beer bottle bashed on her head and then get stuffed in a trunk on Netflix, tv or a video game.
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Then you need to buy a television 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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There's NOTHING risky about the video
what the hell Navy 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Artemisia
Nothing was risky about this huge, calculated effort to bring attention to an era that has been an underperformance for Rihanna's standards.
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Exactly
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚
There's NOTHING risky about the video
what the hell Navy 
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Well it’s not as if the video is a safe, generic pop video though.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
Posts: 7,282
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Originally posted by alfonso12
Why, you gotta be the most stupid ATRL member I've ever seen, you can't get the point, you just cant.
This is not about how things ended up being for Gaga or for Beyoncé, this is about Rihanna NOT BEING THE ONLY ONE TO PAY FOR VIDEOS, it's something a lot of stars have made, it doesn't makes Rihanna any risky, can you please get it?
It's not about collabs being successfull or not, is about how these other girls (and many more) take long breaks between album, the fact that Rihanna took a break for the first time in her life doesn't make her risky.
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My point is that Rihanna has taken risks in her career which is my point. I'm not saying she's the riskiest but the examples I used were examples, I mentioned the others because other posters used Janet,Gaga,Bey, Madonna and anyone else they could pull out their ass crack to discredit Rihanna and pretend she's as safe as Katy Perry and Taylor Swift.
If so many others did this before why didn't anyone give me an exact video where they could cite Rihanna is drawing influence from.
And bitch call me by my name, or stay off my quote button.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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Originally posted by swissman
But what I mean is if ANYONE can be dropped by the label, you can't really say Rihanna is risky because she risked being dropped because it's not unique enough to her. Any new artist would face the same thing. It doesn't mean you are risky, it means your career is at risk. And at the time she was not releasing anything near risky.
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Ok her being dropped and shipped back to Barbados when she dropped out of high school is not a risk at all you're absolutely right.
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