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I mean, it's been mentioned that white people can riot over the dumbest of things and never get labeled thugs living in poverty...

[Kisuke]

Originally posted by lonnie

Sure
Skin bleaching is an important subject and isn't racist at all, :

Well start posting on atrl with the skin bleaching gifs of Bey then.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by Roman Holiday

Whether it's about race or class, it doesn't matter. People are dying by the hands of officials that are supposed to protect us. The justice system doesn't seem to want to do a damn thing about.

You're willfully ignorant if you believe race doesn't play a role tho. The reason a lot of white people are so flippant on the issue is because they're just smelling all kinds of roses while blacks and Latinos are being punished for a cop having a bad day and not having time to go home and beat his wife.

You are being an idealist.
I'm a realist.

I know that no change is going to happen for black people unless they can form a majority.
And that majority will have to include white people.
The way you appeal to white people is not by saying "The police are unfair to us blacks" but by saying "the police are unfair to us poor and middle income folk, while being disproportionately dutiful to the rich."

That's how you win.
I want to win.

[Tripthelight]

Originally posted by KingBey21

It's very telling how ignorant some of you are about race relations in the US. Stop harboring under the delusion that justice is equal in this country. Stop letting your petty stan hatred blind you from real issues. Police have to protect and serve. Murdering citizens (despite whatever criminal history they may or may not have) does NOT fall under protection or service. Some of you are more outraged about property damage than you are about extrajudicial killings, very telling about how you view the worthiness of black life.

Yes!
THANK YOU!
I really needed to read this!

[Crimson18]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

Yes, we don't live in a post-racial society, but the gut of power and the key to climbing out has always been economics. How did Asian immigrants do it? By making money. How do powerful black people? By making money.

Economics is the thread that underlines all the issues here. It's a war of the Haves and Have Nots and the racial war is the unwinnable one that the powers-that-be want you to spend your energy fighting.

Yea economics can help protect people of color from a lot of the effects of racism but not all of them.

Western society is legit BASED on the fact that black=dark, ugly bad and white=pure, good, beautiful, so it's impossible to rid ourselves of all the negative associations with the color Black unless we start a new language or something. So doesn't that make it worse in a way? It's inescapable.

And you have to make a LOT of money before you become "colorless" in a sense. Like Jay Z is almost worth a billion, but a lot of people will always only see him as a thug not only because of where he comes from, but because of him being a rapper. There are certain things Black folks will never be able to do EVER no matter how much money they make without white people feeling threatened or scared.

Justin Beiber's image is straight up thug, but he's not threatening because he's white. A lot of people in this country are able to empathize with him still and still see him as a young boy because he's white.

It seems like it's hard/impossible for white people to empathize with Black people and their pain in this country.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by AHemsworth

I mean, it's been mentioned that white people can riot over the dumbest of things and never get labeled thugs living in poverty...

If you look at the UK, there is a term for "poor white thugs": chavs.

It's interesting how a similar thing hasn't happened in the US.

I suspect it's because the UK is far more concerned with classism, whereas racism is the standard societal division in the States since the country is too new to have an entrenched class system like the UK.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by Crimson18

But that's not even true. Only 1/3 of Blacks live below the poverty line. I'm not going to argue about which one is a bigger factor (race or class) because I don't know, but I definitely wouldn't say racial profiling is only a here or there thing. But yes this capitalist society tramples all over the poor.

Regardless, we can all agree that the history of portraying Blacks as animals and inhuman in the media is playing a BIG part in how Americans are viewing the rioting.

White people riot all the time, and there is NEVER a reaction like this.

Black skin still comes with so many negative associations like that you're dangerous, stupid, etc. to ignore. Race is still a BIG issue. I think it could be arguably worse than class. Maybe.

40% of black children are living in poverty, almost double the rate for white children.
Maybe "most" was the wrong word, but disproportionately high chunk is sufficient, imo.

The war has always been about messaging, and right now the other side is playing a mixture of economic shaming and racial baiting. When they associate "welfare queen" with black women with 10 kids and big butts, they are both using race baiting (black vs white) and economic shaming (they are spending your tax dollars!!!! and being lazy!!) to create those stereotypes.

I'm just saying that imo, the economic stereotypes and barriers will be the short and longterm easiest to overcome and make gains.

[Iman]

Originally posted by AHemsworth

I mean, it's been mentioned that white people can riot over the dumbest of things and never get labeled thugs living in poverty...

This. They riot when their fave sports team win or loses a big game but the media doesn't say ****. Black people riot bc they're being killed but that apparently a bad thing.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Kisuke

Well start posting on atrl with the skin bleaching gifs of Bey then.

As I said you're too sensitive, your nerves seem to be on edge. All this fussing done by one comment which was dry shade that you had probably seen 1000 times already but OK I guess

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by Crimson18

Yea economics can help protect people of color from a lot of the effects of racism but not all of them.

Western society is legit BASED on the fact that black=dark, ugly bad and white=pure, good, beautiful, so it's impossible to rid ourselves of all the negative associations with the color Black unless we start a new language or something. So doesn't that make it worse in a way? It's inescapable.

And you have to make a LOT of money before you become "colorless" in a sense. Like Jay Z is almost worth a billion, but a lot of people will always only see him as a thug not only because of where he comes from, but because of him being a rapper. There are certain things Black folks will never be able to do EVER no matter how much money they make without white people feeling threatened or scared.

Justin Beiber's image is straight up thug, but he's not threatening because he's white. A lot of people in this country are able to empathize with him still and still see him as a young boy because he's white.

It seems like it's hard/impossible for white people to empathize with Black people and their pain in this country.

That's my point though. If they cannot empathize with black pain, then make them empathize with shared pain. Compromise to move ahead.

[Corsola]

Originally posted by Crimson18

Yea economics can help protect people of color from a lot of the effects of racism but not all of them.

Western society is legit BASED on the fact that black=dark, ugly bad and white=pure, good, beautiful, so it's impossible to rid ourselves of all the negative associations with the color Black unless we start a new language or something. So doesn't that make it worse in a way? It's inescapable.

And you have to make a LOT of money before you become "colorless" in a sense. Like Jay Z is almost worth a billion, but a lot of people will always only see him as a thug not only because of where he comes from, but because of him being a rapper. There are certain things Black folks will never be able to do EVER no matter how much money they make without white people feeling threatened or scared.

Justin Beiber's image is straight up thug, but he's not threatening because he's white. A lot of people in this country are able to empathize with him still and still see him as a young boy because he's white.

It seems like it's hard/impossible for white people to empathize with Black people and their pain in this country.

I'm loving all your posts here.

[Kisuke]

Thought so.

Originally posted by Iman

This. They riot when their fave sports team win or loses a big game but the media doesn't say ****. Black people riot bc they're being killed but that apparently a bad thing.

Yes its really a mess

[RainDreamer]

Originally posted by lonnie

There was no making fun of "black people skin", there was an allegation or alluding to skin bleaching, which is an important and contemporary issue in society and doesn't fall on a particular race but kii at you of all people getting sensitive

Right !!!!

Just the hive playing the race card as usual to get sympathy. They did the same when Tidal flopped

Edit:

Originally posted by 50thStateofMind

alleging that someone bleaches their skin is a BIG deal, especially when it's absolutely FALSE. Beyonce has always been light skinned. Look at her as a child, look at her mother..

USE YOUR BRAIN.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by 50thStateofMind

alleging that someone bleaches their skin is a BIG deal, especially when it's absolutely FALSE. Beyonce has always been light skinned. Look at her as a child, look at her mother..

USE YOUR BRAIN.

And these allegations are racist? This discussion is derailing the important topic so let me just say y'all are entitled to your own opinions on this.

[Crimson18]

Originally posted by TikiMiss

Think about it. This country is majority white. For black people to win the war on black vs. white, you will have to have a lot of babies and raise a voting army which could take decades if not centuries.
This country, though, is still majority middle-class and poor. These are the two groups consistently screwed over by the top 1% of the income chain. Imagine the changes that could happen if people could set aside race differences and talked about how the injust justice system impacts the 99% instead of just the 13% (black)

Ok. I agree with this approach, but don't say class is a bigger issue than race. Just say you think it would be more productive to focus on class, because white people will never get how racist they are or stop being racist.

[Corsola]

Originally posted by RainDreamer

Right !!!!

Just the hive playing the race card as usual to get sympathy. They did the same when Tidal flopped

If you weren't making a joke about Beyonce's skin color in a thread about racism, what were you saying that for?

And I'm not even in the hive, in fact I stan for Rihanna so you making this out to be a stan war is pathetic and irritating

[Kisuke]

Originally posted by 50thStateofMind

alleging that someone bleaches their skin is a BIG deal, especially when it's absolutely FALSE. Beyonce has always been light skinned. Look at her as a child, look at her mother..

USE YOUR BRAIN.

His post was racist, Him claiming light skin people are not black is just

[Iman]

Also, this faux concern about rioters destroying their communities needs to stop. Yall weren't concerned before the riots when these same communities were plagued with poverty and yall damn sure don't care now. You just want to silence them

[Crimson18]

Originally posted by RainDreamer

Right !!!!

Just the hive playing the race card as usual to get sympathy. They did the same when Tidal flopped

You need to stop acting like your original post alluded to bleaching in any way, shape or form.

You made a joke about wondering if Bey were Black because she has lighter skin, which is very insensitive and ignorant.

And as for the bleaching jokes- those are extremely hurtful and inappropriate as well. I don't think people understand how offensive it is to suggest that a Black person is ashamed of their race. That is one of the worst things you can say to Black people when everyone else hates us anyway. Bey has always been light skinned and very proud to be a Black woman.

[DivaDown]

Originally posted by Roman Holiday

Smh.


People are outraged. You can't keep poking a bear and not expect it to attack. Rioting may not be right, but historically speaking, you have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

Poking the bear?!?!? Cracking a few eggs?!?!? What kind of ASININE statement.

Let's do a quick history lessen Henney:

Martin Luther King, Jr. was at (by far) the WORST time for race relations in the United States. Did he EVER "riot"? NO. He protested. He protested & did it the RIGHT way & people (of all color) listened.

There's a BLATANT difference between what these hoodlums are doing in Baltimore & what Martin Luther King, Jr. did. So, don't imply it's ok for people to riot & cause damage to their community when looking back at history, we see the BIGGEST change was done by peaceful protesting.

I'm gonna order you a row of chairs, because Henney, you need to have SEVERAL seats.