3/5 songs being acoustic/stripped down, though?
I don't have anything against those type of songs but they're definitely not what I envisioned or particularly wanted from Amber. Though she surprised me with "Beautiful" so maybe those other tracks will be great as well.
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I really like 4Minute's "Crazy" but I really hate the way it's being presented to us. The video and performances are just...
It's possible YG is holding off his Korean releases to watch over CL, but I wouldn't see the point.
With that being said, I'm not sure CL will release a single before April anyway, since Scooter has been teasing Tori Kelly and Carly Rae Jepsen for March releases, and CL seems to still be in and out of the studio?
Seems like BIGBANG's comeback is gonna be in APRIL
wtf YG, an entire quarter of the year WASTED.
Makes sense with iKON ****ing up when they were suppose to coming out, and Tae and Dae don't finish their tours until the first week of March and if YG pushed out anyone before his last statement that TBH I hope YG is the one in charge of tracklisting CL's album because that is the one thing he is strong at.
but remember how YG was talking all that talk about iKON being first even at the beginning of the year. I bet some of the members of the group aren't mixing/matching like he thought they would. At least WINNER's had an excuse of being on WINNERTV and touring compared to iKON only touring.
And YG's acting/model department has been overly active compared to the past years with nearly every model and actor working on a show in comparison to other years. Remember YG is no longer just a music business but multimedia fashion etc.
I'm not sure if this was discussed back when it was released, but I wasn't around and can't be bothered going back reading through all the pages I missed for a few days. But does no one else find it odd, or at the very least unsettling, that 4Minute were "revamped" into bucket hats, baby hairs, braids, etc. amidst the apparent hip-hop trend in Korea?
Musically I have no issue with what they're doing, as 4Minute have been playing around with hip-hop influences for a while and hip-hop/R&B has been a genuine influence on K-Pop since the beginning (to my knowledge). My issue is strictly with the image and timing of this comeback, and I know K-Pop culturally appropriates all the time but when the conversation about stealing black culture is massive right now, has anyone been talking about or questioning what 4Minute (and their label) are giving us? It was obvious what this era was going to be ever since the first bucket hat teaser picture but I'm surprised there isn't more of a conversation about this.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying the music should be any different. The hip-hop influence is fine. I'm just questioning the image of it all, and why even tumblr is oddly silent about this. The only issues I've seen people take with this comeback is how 4Minute are "copying YG/2NE1", and they're completely overlooking the real issue here.
4Minute's "Crazy" is basically a commercialized version of an actual hip-hop concept with their bucket hats, braids, acting "hard", etc. but K-Pop stays appropriating black culture along with pop music in general, but y'all would rather bop than really get into it but .
BUT LET'S SCREAM ABOUT THIS MAGICAL MOMENT I JUST STUMBLED UPON:
I'm not sure if this was discussed back when it was released, but I wasn't around and can't be bothered going back reading through all the pages I missed for a few days. But does no one else find it odd, or at the very least unsettling, that 4Minute were "revamped" into bucket hats, baby hairs, braids, etc. amidst the apparent hip-hop trend in Korea?
Musically I have no issue with what they're doing, as 4Minute have been playing around with hip-hop influences for a while and hip-hop/R&B has been a genuine influence on K-Pop since the beginning (to my knowledge). My issue is strictly with the image and timing of this comeback, and I know K-Pop culturally appropriates all the time but when the conversation about stealing black culture is massive right now, has anyone been talking about or questioning what 4Minute (and their label) are giving us? It was obvious what this era was going to be ever since the first bucket hat teaser picture but I'm surprised there isn't more of a conversation about this.
Just to clarify, I'm not saying the music should be any different. The hip-hop influence is fine. I'm just questioning the image of it all, and why even tumblr is oddly silent about this. The only issues I've seen people take with this comeback is how 4Minute are "copying YG/2NE1", and they're completely overlooking the real issue here.
They are jumping on the trend as hep hap is the cool things to do. Same thing with JYP trying to put out a hip hop group for the first time. Rap is in ever since SMTM guys starting topping Melon and then people were like let me jump on that ****.
Same thing with idols promoting with Ballads recently. 2NE1 started the trend with missing you in 2013 and it did extremely well after their mishaps on the charts. See then others doing ballads from Girls Day to Tae to 4minute.
its just a bunch of jumping to quik hits and number ones rather than longevity and originality. Its like the goal is for a quick JO and cumshot rather than a full fledged orgasm
4Minute's "Crazy" is basically a commercialized version of an actual hip-hop concept with their bucket hats, braids, acting "hard", etc. but K-Pop stays appropriating black culture along with pop music in general, but y'all would rather bop than really get into it but .
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They are jumping on the trend as hep hap is the cool things to do. Same thing with JYP trying to put out a hip hop group for the first time. Rap is in ever since SMTM guys starting topping Melon and then people were like let me jump on that ****.
This has been going on forever but it's only recently that I've started really taking notice of it all and it just feels so wrong. It's not even the fact that hip-hop is the new trend, because different countries and cultures putting their own spin on hip-hop can be really awesome. It's more the fact the companies and idols are taking everything that's stereotypical and trendy within black culture right now and just repackaging that for the masses and they're rewarded with being labelled as "cool" and "edgy". The 4Minute girls might not even know better at this stage but I'm sure the label does and it doesn't sit well with me.
Anyway, I'm enjoying a few songs on the mini. "Crazy" sounds way better on headphones than on my good speakers, there's a few subtleties in the production that are drowned out on my speakers.
But I still think by now we should be living in a generation where cultures crossing shouldn't be a bad thing. Kind of like that little girl on twitter getting braids and then getting penalised for it. They're braids. I understand the appropriation in this K-pop context, but I think in certain real world terms, it can be used a little too much as a bracket term to accuse racism, when it doesn't need to be. A white person should be allowed to wear braids as much as a black person should be allowed to relax their hair or get a lace-front. It's a problem where it's a problem, but I think given we're living in 2015, it shouldn't have to be as escalated as it is.
But I still think by now we should be living in a generation where cultures crossing shouldn't be a bad thing. Kind of like that little girl on twitter getting braids and then getting penalised for it. They're braids. I understand the appropriation in this K-pop context, but I think in certain real world terms, it can be used a little too much as a bracket term to accuse racism, when it doesn't need to be. A white person should be allowed to wear braids as much as a black person should be allowed to relax their hair or get a lace-front. It's a problem where it's a problem, but I think given we're living in 2015, it shouldn't have to be as escalated as it is.
I think cultures are always going to influence each other, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, the main issue here is that the pop business are taking very specific things from black culture (and other minority cultures) and stripping them of their context and history and reducing them to nothing more than an "edgy" costume that they'll use for one or two eras and then ditch. The reason why that's an issue is because the things being taken from these cultures are what are actually obstacles for people of said-minorities. If black women made the "Crazy" video, the mainstream audience would brush it off as another "trashy", "ghetto" video and wouldn't really care about it. 4Minute do it and it's "cool" and "exciting". See the difference? At the end of the day the mainstream are using specific things to dehumanise minority cultures while using those very same things to build up others.