[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

Originally posted by Element

L'Hopital's Rule is pretty straightforward, if I recall correctly. It makes solving limits a lot easier.

Not deez girls finding it hard
I find integration way harder than limits (but it is also way more interesting)

[Georges]

Originally posted by Arioso

Should secondary education be a requirement?

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the members here would ask the same question about primary education.

[iHype.]

Originally posted by BudBud

where do you live

Somewhere in America. That's all you gon get. My street knowledge taught me not to give strangers my location. Did Asymptotes? NOPE.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Element

L'Hopital's Rule is pretty straightforward, if I recall correctly. It makes solving limits a lot easier.

Is that a Calc 2 concept? Just curious because, tru story, I dropped Calc 2 this semester before switching to a major that requires it and I have to retake it.

[Element]

Originally posted by conseeded

The problem is not with math, but with how education is graded in general. Some people will never have interest/understand higher level math. I don't agree with a student having to take summer school or be held back a year just because they couldn't understand a math subject like Calculus.

I do feel like business math classes should be more stressed than higher level algebra, trigonometry, calculus, etc. are right now.

I completely agree with you on this post. A lot of students, from my observation, do not have any desire to learn mathematics, so they do not put in the work. In addition, it is an overwhelming subject because it builds on itself, and if you do not get one concept, you will be in trouble. As such, I think that many students truly experience a fear/anxiety regarding their math classes, as they think their grade will be extremely low.

I also concur about the business math classes. Business involves a lot of math -- that realm boils down to the numbers in many cases, and I don't think that many business students care for math. Some people in my college macroeconomics course, for example, do not understand essential mathematical principles and techniques that they should have learned in high school.

[BudBud]

Originally posted by iHype.

And that's the reason education sucks ass nowadays and America is SLIPPING.

Too much unnecessary unused information, and not enough usable street information.

speak for america sis , Asian countries which forces math on students are doing well like the good sis korea. and if you want to get high pay in one of the STEM jobs then you NEED maths

[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

Originally posted by iHype.

Somewhere in America. That's all you gon get. My street knowledge taught me not to give strangers my location. Did Asymptotes? NOPE.

Sistren

[BudBud]

Originally posted by iHype.

Somewhere in America. That's all you gon get. My street knowledge taught me not to give strangers my location. Did Asymptotes? NOPE.

you mean your basic instinct ?

[iHype.]

Originally posted by BudBud

speak for american sis , Asian countries who forces math on students are doing well like the good sis korea. and if you want to get high pay in one of the STEM jobs then you NEED maths

And how much of the population has STEM jobs? 5%?

We're forcing struggle on 100% of students for something 95% won't use in their career/lives again. Which is why this **** should be for College only if it's needed for your major/degree.

[Georges]

Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan

I have a 3.6 GPA , though. I'm certainly not "choosing" to be dumb.

I do, however, see that you have no answer to the question I asked initially.

Drag me though!

Maths can help improve analysis and observation skill. And I will not believe a GPA posted online.

No power or person in the world will make you believe that maths is worth it. It's your opinion and it'll probably never change, I tried though

[BudBud]

Originally posted by Arioso

Should secondary education be a requirement?

only for those who passed primary education

[Almighty Gaga]

Yes

[Iman]

yeah, at least through high school

[Retro]

Originally posted by Anvarie

And the reaching begins


Nobody has said why math is necessary post jr high
Besides "it makes you think hard" and "it applies to everyday life" without actually using realistic examples

History makes you think hard
History definitely applies to everyday life yet in my school we only took 3 years instead of 4

But is it necessary? Have we even defined "necessary" for this conversation? Because it seems like we're all going off different definitions of the words "need" and "necessary" and "should." Like, maybe I don't think I need anything but basic history. What's wrong with that? And how are the problems you see in that similar to the problems some see with thinking math is not "necessary?"

[Anvarie]

Originally posted by BudBud

speak for america sis , Asian countries which forces math on students are doing well like the good sis korea. and if you want to get high pay in one of the STEM jobs then you NEED maths

Not everyone is some greedy mathematician seeking the highest paying jobs available some of us are about the music not the bling

[Jet]

Lord, some of y'all just want everyone to be stupid apparently

[Bey_Rihstan]

The schools clog up our schedules with unnecessary ******** classes, while leaving the important, beneficial ones on the back burner.
I shouldn't have to take a classes that aren't going to help me after high school. The entire point of school is for us to prosper in the real world. I don't need Geometry or Geology to get through everyday life.

[iHype.]

Originally posted by BudBud

you mean your basic instinct ?

No. You aren't born out the womb with automatically knowing not to give information. It's taught from experience.

[Element]

Originally posted by ♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚

Not deez girls finding it hard
I find integration way harder than limits (but it is also way more interesting)

Limits are not that hard, but L'Hopital's Rule makes the process quicker in certain cases. It has been a year and a half since I learned it, so I don't remember the exact rule.

Integration seems to be the most difficult for most students, but I actually enjoyed it. It was pretty creative, actually. Differentiation was more confusing for me.

Originally posted by Arioso

Is that a Calc 2 concept? Just curious because, tru story, I dropped Calc 2 this semester before switching to a major that requires it and I have to retake it.

Yes, it is! I learned it in the middle of the semester that I took Calc 2. But that is really annoying that you will have to retake it! What was your previous major, out of interest? Calc 2 is notoriously the most difficult of the three in the calculus sequence. My Calc 2 class had 16 students at the start, and by the final withdrawal date, only 7 students remained.

[SupahBass05]

Originally posted by Arioso

Is that a Calc 2 concept? Just curious because, tru story, I dropped Calc 2 this semester before switching to a major that requires it and I have to retake it.

It's from AP Calc BC. (Well, that's where I learned it lol)

and in l'hopital all u do is differentiate the numerator and denominator, so the equation becomes -2x/(4x^3-1) and u plug in 1 to get the answer. It can only be used when the limit is 0/0 before the differentiation.

Originally posted by BudBud

you mean your basic instinct ?

No Ciara references please.