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Chart Listings: Mediabase & Radio Formats (2003-2009 Archives)
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
I'm confused on how JUSTIN's name alone could make a song do THIS well? 
Pop Radio MISSES Ciara, so many DJ's said "She's BACK" this week, Just helped, yes, but that's like the whole point of JIVE putting him on the song, to help Ciara get back to the top, so continuing to give Justin all the credit makes you sound bitter and like an idiot.
Stop hating cause CIARA is back and slaying the Pop charts again. 
Tell your favorite flops to get Justin to hop on their track, I bet he won't even think twice...  |
If pop radio really missed Ciara that much, then why did Never Ever and Go Girl flop on pop radio?
Justin isn't the only reason, of course. Names aren't the only reason a song is a hit, but he's played a HUGE part in making this song a hit. It would probably be lingering between 90-110 right now.
I'm sure the title helped a bit as well.
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
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you just cant accept reality... 
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Damn 130 stations still for "Womanizer" :S
"Amy" <33 Not even an adds date and 50% stations already playing.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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Nobody is disagring Justin is helping the song, it's more about saying this isn't about CIARA. She's all over the song, and it's playing all over radio as HER song, that's what some of you don't get. This is ALL for Ciara's benefit.
JIVE is putting money into a TOUR, and simultaneous releasing her album WORLDWIDE, if this was just about Justin, FANTASY RIDE would have came out on April 7th as planned. "Never Ever" & "Go Girl" weren't even near as strong as this song is, so don't even go there, not to mention her coming off a VERY Urban leaning album and last single. They have to use something to get her POP cred back, people do it all the time. Perfect examples are T.I. & Chris Brown.
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Member Since: 6/23/2005
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Originally posted by CarCAL22
yep tomorrow will mark Womanizer's 22nd week in the Top 40, but it will go recurrent by the afternoon update so only officially 21 weeks, Circus will be on its 12th week inside the Top 40 come tomorrow
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Wow, going recurrent already?!
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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^ALREADY?? It's been on the Top 40 since September LOL.
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Member Since: 3/2/2008
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Originally posted by 1-N-Only21
Nobody is disagring Justin is helping the song, it's more about saying this isn't about CIARA. She's all over the song, and it's playing all over radio as HER song, that's what some of you don't get. This is ALL for Ciara's benefit.
JIVE is putting money into a TOUR, and simultaneous releasing her album WORLDWIDE, if this was just about Justin, FANTASY RIDE would have came out on April 7th as planned. "Never Ever" & "Go Girl" weren't even near as strong as this song is, so don't even go there, not to mention her coming off a VERY Urban leaning album and last single. They have to use something to get her POP cred back, people do it all the time. Perfect examples are T.I. & Chris Brown.
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We get that it's good for Ciara, but what you DON'T get is that without Justin, this would be flopping. So you better be thanking Justin. And that urban excuse is pure bogus. T.I., T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Beyonce have all and HUGE Urban/Pop crossovers. Just face it, Ciara was flopping until Justin stepped in. You just need to hope that it works and people remember who Ciara is after the song is dead. There's people in my school who love 1, 2 Step but couldn't tell you who sang it. And when I do tell them it's Ciara, they say "who"? And then I list off other hit songs of hers, and they don't remember them.
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Originally posted by tcatron565
We get that it's good for Ciara, but what you DON'T get is that without Justin, this would be flopping. So you better be thanking Justin. And that urban excuse is pure bogus. T.I., T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Beyonce have all and HUGE Urban/Pop crossovers. Just face it, Ciara was flopping until Justin stepped in. You just need to hope that it works and people remember who Ciara is after the song is dead. There's people in my school who love 1, 2 Step but couldn't tell you who sang it. And when I do tell them it's Ciara, they say "who"? And then I list off other hit songs of hers, and they don't remember them.
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LIES.
Ciara can pull of a hit ALONE, she just needs STRONG material like "Love Sex Magic". People are failing to realize, this is the first real CLUB song of the era, and it's no doubt doubt the most radio friendly. Ciara is a household name, that's no surprise either. People didn't know who Lil' Wayne was until "The Carter III" and Pop radio wasn't eating up T.I. like that until "Paper Trail".
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Member Since: 7/27/2004
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I agree with everyone else here. I like Ciara (and LOVED 'Like a Boy'), but the truth of the matter is her new song wouldn't be doing as well as it should without Justin's tag on it. The same goes for Madonna's '4 Minutes' as well. There is nothing wrong with that, I mean, isn't the only reason why Justin is on the track is to finally get Ciara a hit this era? And finally have her album out? Keri and Lil Wayne anyone?
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by tcatron565
We get that it's good for Ciara, but what you DON'T get is that without Justin, this would be flopping. So you better be thanking Justin. And that urban excuse is pure bogus. T.I., T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Beyonce have all and HUGE Urban/Pop crossovers. Just face it, Ciara was flopping until Justin stepped in. You just need to hope that it works and people remember who Ciara is after the song is dead. There's people in my school who love 1, 2 Step but couldn't tell you who sang it. And when I do tell them it's Ciara, they say "who"? And then I list off other hit songs of hers, and they don't remember them.
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Well first of all, since when did she mention T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Beyonce? T.I. did struggle with his first like 2 singles before they released "Whatever U Like"....and Chris flopped with "Wall 2 Wall" until they got it right with "Kiss Kiss". And you don't know what this song would do without Justin....like really. Of course Justin helps in the song, but it's still clearly Ciara holding up the song as well.
And PLEASE, don't sit here and make up stuff to help your wack claims. People know who sang "1,2 Step", and if they don't know at your school then you must go to a lame ass school.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by Violet Skye
I agree with everyone else here. I like Ciara (and LOVED 'Like a Boy'), but the truth of the matter is her new song wouldn't be doing as well as it should without Justin's tag on it. The same goes for Madonna's '4 Minutes' as well. There is nothing wrong with that, I mean, isn't the only reason why Justin is on the track is to finally get Ciara a hit this era? And finally have her album out? Keri and Lil Wayne anyone?
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"4 Minutes" would've been a hit alone. Don't sit here and say that as if she had a line of flops prior to that song. "4 Minutes" was a collaborative effort. Do you forget "Hung Up", "Die Another Day", "Music", etc. etc. going back years and years were all hits?
And Keri was flopping because her material was DATED. "Energy" was such a 2006 sound, and "Return The Favor" was the usual Timbaland beat that people got over after "The Way I Are". She finally got a sound that fit.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Well first of all, since when did she mention T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Beyonce? T.I. did struggle with his first like 2 singles before they released "Whatever U Like"....and Chris flopped with "Wall 2 Wall" until they got it right with "Kiss Kiss". And you don't know what this song would do without Justin....like really. Of course Justin helps in the song, but it's still clearly Ciara holding up the song as well.
And PLEASE, don't sit here and make up stuff to help your wack claims. People know who sang "1,2 Step", and if they don't know at your school then you must go to a lame ass school.
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMKAY!
T.I. released like a billion singles prior to his big pop blow up, and they all flopped. The label got something they could see a hit in with "Whatever You Like" and began pushing the project. Then high profile features like Rihanna & Justin Timberlake pumped it even more, so the era wouldn't end like the rest of his eras.
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Sierra's getting a Top 10 hit thanks to Justin. 
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Originally posted by Rihannafan
48 50 SHONTELLE Stuck With Each Othe... 555 533 +22 1.818 PLEASE DONT DIE!
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This is such a good song! It would seriously suck if it didn't reach Top 10 Radio!! 
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Originally posted by fridayteenage
Madonna's 21st century US Peaks: What It Feels Like 23, Die Another Day 8, American Life 37, Hollywood 103, Me Against 35, Nothing Fails 101, Love Profusion 105, Hung Up 7, Sorry 58, Get Together 106, Jump 105, 4 Minutes 3, Give It 2 Me 57
4 Minutes is the highest. And while she does some major-ish hits, it seems hit-and-miss.
Of course, worldwide is a different story.
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You forgot Music, which went to #1. 
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31 34 29 MILEY CYRUS The Climb WDR/Hollywood 2009 1649 1103 546 99 16.3 10.9 +5.4
Miley will obviously pass David cook in the next update, is just 2 spins away C'mon Miley get that top 20 hit!
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Well first of all, since when did she mention T-Pain, Lil Wayne, and Beyonce? T.I. did struggle with his first like 2 singles before they released "Whatever U Like"....and Chris flopped with "Wall 2 Wall" until they got it right with "Kiss Kiss". And you don't know what this song would do without Justin....like really. Of course Justin helps in the song, but it's still clearly Ciara holding up the song as well.
And PLEASE, don't sit here and make up stuff to help your wack claims. People know who sang "1,2 Step", and if they don't know at your school then you must go to a lame ass school.
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1) I was giving examples of people who had urban/pop crossover hits.
2) Yes, they had flops on pop, but Ciara had a hit right from the start with Goodies, then 1, 2 Step, then Oh, then this, than that, she had huge name! To go from having back to back top 20s and top 10s to songs not even cracking the top 100 is sad.
3) They are not "wack" claims.
4) Don't you even dare put down my school.
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Member Since: 8/3/2006
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Originally posted by tcatron565
1) I was giving examples of people who had urban/pop crossover hits.
2) Yes, they had flops on pop, but Ciara had a hit right from the start with Goodies, then 1, 2 Step, then Oh, then this, than that, she had huge name! To go from having back to back top 20s and top 10s to songs not even cracking the top 100 is sad.
3) They are not "wack" claims.
4) Don't you even dare put down my school.
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T.I. went through the same thing with the beginning of "Paper Trail" that Ciara went through at the beginning of "Fantasy Ride" only like 4848 x worse.
Ciara is obviously a crossover name if her song has 600+ bullet at Pop, regardless of Justin. So that is killed. JIVE ****ed her over many times and now they are making up for it.
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