[Khal]

It all boils down to preference & exclusivity. Preference isn't racist, exclusivity is racist and ignorant.

[Domination]

Originally posted by cloudinthesky

Just because it's "rampant" does not in any way, shape or form make the practice acceptable.

I never said it was racist to want to date your own race. In fact, I'd suggest the opposite: If you refuse to date your own race, you probably have some major issues you need to work out as well.

I said it's racist to reject everyone of a certain race based solely on their skin color and/or stereotypes of that race. Not everyone conforms to those stereotypes, and to ascribe a negative connotation to an entire race of people that you've never even met, based on media, or your encounters with a small minority of that race IS prejudice and racist. Period. End of story.

If you like dating your own race then more power to you. That's a natural thing. But if you reject other races without having met every single person of that race then there's a problem.

Hun, I'm saying that selective discrimination against dating certain races and not others isn't a result of Euro-centrism, I not saying it's okay or acceptable.

But I agree with you on the second part.

[Xtinafan 99]

Obviously. People can't help what they like. I can respect and be friends with people of all races assuming we get along.

But when it comes to being attracted to someone there are certain body types and races I prefer and nothing will change that.

[Bloo]

It's not racist. I'm mixed, black and white, and I am primarily attracted to white men. It doesn't mean I'm racist. But, white men typically have physical features I find more attractive. If someone of a certain skin color comes along and I find them very attractive, then that's them. But a preference is not racist at all. Anyone saying otherwise is a politically correct, social justice prick.

[Butters]

If you decide not to date someone solely based on their race, you are a racist. If you say that you are not attracted to a certain race, you are basing that off of preconceived generalizations of that race which is racist also.

[Eros]

I definitely think its racist. Its just a socially accepted form of racism, which is hella ****ed up.

I don't discriminate tho, why would I? I love having all the options.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Butters

If you decide not to date someone solely based on their race, you are a racist. If you say that you are not attracted to a certain race, you are basing that off of preconceived generalizations of that race which is racist also.

This makes absolutely no sense. Race is a pretty big factor in physicality and appearance. Using your logic, it's discriminatory to not be up to dating anyone that you're not physically attracted to. Saying you're not, for the most part, attracted to a particular race is simply on observation on what you find physically appealing. It has nothing to do with preconceived generalizations.

[Walley]

Well I have a preference off dating black women and white men, but I'd be willing to date any race if we clicked. That's not racist.

Saying that you could never date ______ race. That is racist.

[Reinvention]

It's not racist to have a preference, but it is to have a racial dislike.

You can not simply say "I wouldn't date an asian/black/Indian man" without being a hideous racist ass. You can not rule out entire ethnicities.

[Mani.]

Originally posted by Bloo

This makes absolutely no sense. Race is a pretty big factor in physicality and appearance. Using your logic, it's discriminatory to not be up to dating anyone that you're not physically attracted to. Saying you're not, for the most part, attracted to a particular race is simply on observation on what you find physically appealing. It has nothing to do with preconceived generalizations.

Oh please. My cousin Daisy is a black woman with blonde curly hair, blue eyes and pale skin. She looks like a white woman and gets mistaken for one every day. Once again, a RACE is too diverse for you to not be physically attracted to the way they look. So,what if your preference is white? If there was a black woman who could pass as a caucasian woman, would your dislike still apply? Would you still turn your nose once you find out they are black?

Everyone doesn't look the same, no matter what race group they are in. You assuming every person in a specific race looks the same is a stupid, racist generalization within itself.

[cloudinthesky]

Originally posted by Reinvention

It's not racist to have a preference, but it is to have a racial dislike.

You can not simply say "I wouldn't date an asian/black/Indian man" without being a hideous racist ass. You can not rule out entire ethnicities.

Ding ding ding!

Originally posted by Mani.

Oh please. My cousin Daisy is a black woman with blonde curly hair, blue eyes and pale skin. She looks like a white woman and gets mistaken for one every day. Once again, a RACE is too diverse for you to not be physically attracted to the way they look. So,what if your preference is white? If there was a black woman who could pass as a caucasian woman, would your dislike still apply? Would you still turn your nose once you find out they are black?

Everyone doesn't look the same, no matter what race group they are in. You assuming every person in a specific race looks the same is a stupid, racist generalization within itself.

THANK you. This is exactly what I'm talking about. Not everybody of a particular race conforms to the stereotypes of that race, whether we're talking physically, mentally, emotionally, or what have you. And anyone who assumes as such is without a doubt feeding into racial prejudices imposed on them by society/media. There is no grey area.

Originally posted by Bloo

It's not racist. I'm mixed, black and white, and I am primarily attracted to white men. It doesn't mean I'm racist. But, white men typically have physical features I find more attractive. If someone of a certain skin color comes along and I find them very attractive, then that's them. But a preference is not racist at all. Anyone saying otherwise is a politically correct, social justice prick.

That's exactly what we've been saying though. If you are open to dating other races then you are not racist, so I really don't see what you're complaining about here. If you ONLY date white men and no other races, OR if you REFUSE to date someone of a certain race because they are that race, then you are racist. Plain and simple. Just accept it and go fix yourself tbh.

[Rihinvention]

Originally posted by KareBear

How is it not racist to feel but racist to say? That doesn't make sense.

It's racist to not be attracted to am entire race. Just like it's dumb to think all blondes or all blue eyed people aren't attractive. Their not all going to look the same. What you're saying is you don't like the color of their skin or the features specific to that race.

I suppose it's just a coincidence that black women are the least attractive to everyone right?

Because when you say it, you're putting it out there for people of that race to be offended by, and it makes them feel inferior. For example, if you have something like "no Asians or Indians" in an online dating profile (which is disgustingly common in grindr profiles here in Sydney) then you're putting it out there for Asian and Indian guys to be offended by. There could be some 16-17 year old Asian/Indian kids who are coming to terms with the fact that they're gay and are looking to reach out and talk to someone about what they're going through. They might be getting bullied at school for being gay and consequently feel rejected and depressed. Then they find out about grindr, a way they can reach out and befriend other gay guys, and the first thing they see is a bunch of profiles rejecting them and making them feel even more inferior because of their race. That's overtly racist.

At the same time, I feel like some of those guys who aren't attracted to Asians or Indians or another race aren't doing it because they consciously hate people of those races. Sure, a lot of them are. But some of them aren't. Often they feel that way because of the Western media's glorification of Caucasian beauty and Caucasian features, and the underrepresentation of other ethnicities' attractiveness in the media. Something they have no control over. Something they've been brainwashed to believe since they started watching television as a toddler. Like I said before, you can't help who you're attracted to. It just happens naturally. Simply being gay is an example of that. Anyone gay on this forum knows they don't choose to be gay. Similarly, you don't choose the ethnicities you're attracted to. As a result, I think it's important to start having an equal representation of ethnicities in the media.

I hope this clears up my opinion on the issue

[Adonis]

Originally posted by Vertigo Stick

There's a difference between: "I'm not into (insert) period, and never will be." Vs "I've just never seen a (insert) person I've found attractive." The former dismisses an entire race, and it is racist, while the latter does not judge an entire race as a singular entity but on an individual basis.

I find that I like guys different than myself. However, I get completely offended when a guy says he likes me because Im black.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by gloamingtheplain

In all honesty, I find Asians adorable. But personally, I have never been sexually attracted to an Asian. Ever.
Same with Blacks.

If someone wants to call me Racist, go ahead. I never close my judgement on people. Hell, in high school I found this nerdy autistic guy who no one would talk to really interesting. I also love talking to older people. I'm very open minded, and love people in general.

However, if I joined a dating site, I would probably skip Asians and Blacks, because from past history I've never found one attractive. I just don't think of them that way.

If one day I did, I would pounce. But for now, I haven't. And that's just who I am.

I don't think it's Racist. Being Racist would mean you exclude other Races because you don't want to associate with them.

Thats another thing. Many white guys would almost never date blacks or asians when they are in their prime. However the minute they realize they are old and washed up they start preying on young blacks and asians. Im like dont come to me now that youre old and washed up because I am not interested. They saythings like "Ive never been attracted to a black guy before." Im like "Dont come up in my face now that youre a weathered old queen. Im going to make sure you stick with your own race like you did when you were young."

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Mani.

Oh please. My cousin Daisy is a black woman with blonde curly hair, blue eyes and pale skin. She looks like a white woman and gets mistaken for one every day. Once again, a RACE is too diverse for you to not be physically attracted to the way they look. So,what if your preference is white? If there was a black woman who could pass as a caucasian woman, would your dislike still apply? Would you still turn your nose once you find out they are black?

Everyone doesn't look the same, no matter what race group they are in. You assuming every person in a specific race looks the same is a stupid, racist generalization within itself.

No. I never said that. I actually said, "If someone of a certain skin color comes along and I find them very attractive, then that's them." I think most of the debate here is people confusing the fact that preference does not inherently suggest exclusivity. If you overall prefer something, that doesn't mean you refuse anything outside of it. I prefer frozen yogurt over ice cream, but that doesn't mean I refuse to eat ice cream. You all are interpreting preference as meaning something more than it does.

[Rigalo]

It's not.

[AMENHOOKER]

It's not necessarily racist. It's very situational. Everyone has a preference BUT there are some people — particularly gay men — who can be extremely superficial and say things like 'No darks', 'No Asians', etc. which is beyond obnoxious.

I don't give a f**k about race. It's so trivial to me and doesn't play a factor in who I date. If I find a black man hot, I'm taking it home; if I find a white man who turns me on, he can have IT!

[TheSoneNavy]

I like all guys. If you got a pretty good face, body, and a great personally.... I'm up for any guy

[Adonis]

Originally posted by GotSkill

Sexuality isn't 100% genetic or based on environment, as is racial preference. I agree with the rest though

Ive taken some of those classes too

As have I. Look at the increase in the number of guys claiming they are into scruff these days. Now gays cant grow facial hair fast enough. Sexuality is one part social conditioning. Many gays tend to think their being gay makes them enlightened on the subject of diversity. However you see them stereotyping and discriminating against people based on race even more than straight people would normally do to the point they have gay pride and black gay pride.

[longjohn9898]

Preferring to date one race over others is not necessarily racist, but people need to realize that people's "preferences" are not just developed in a vacuum but in a society that is inundated with media's representations of what is considered attractive--and in most cases this is based on a Eurocentric standard of beauty, hence OkCupid's huge preferences to white men and white women. White men may not show their preferences as strongly because simply, they have more to choose from because other races are more open to the idea of dating/being in a relationship with white people in general because of media's representations. The criminalization and hypersexual/violent portrayals of black men are exotification of Asian women (with Asian men and black women being the least desired based on these polls) is just further evidence of the effects society has on racial preferences in dating.