[BodyElectric.]

2013 onwards only, not here for 5 or 10 year old receipts. Rih can sell albums, can sell singles, can have successful tours, her impact is huge, and she's consistent as she's not going from 6 million to less than 2 million. Do you agree with the facts or no?

[Rihinvention]

Everyone's just going to come in and say "no, *insert fave*" anyway

[gloamingtheplain]

She's not the perfect package, but she's a great one.

[ultraviolento]

Her voice is average and she can't write so talent wise she's far from it, imo. She's also the only pop girl who doesn't have an 150m+ grossing tour, which is weird since she has no many hits. Her album sales are also pretty mediocre, 7 albums = 30m is underwhelming when you have Taylor, Beyoncé and Gaga doing almost the same numbers with only 4-5 releases and without all them hits.

[Simplyvirtue]

Originally posted by BodyElectric.

2013 onwards only, not here for 5 or 10 year old receipts. Rih can sell albums, can sell singles, can have successful tours, her impact is huge, and she's consistent as she's not going from 6 million to less than 2 million. Do you agree with the facts or no?

Ummmm but she has though several times!

[DanceForYou]

I love Rih but all you said there is that she's successful and has impact. So that's all it takes to be the "complete package"? Sad. Some of you should just keep your mouths shut sometimes instead of desperately trying to shade when you make no damn sense.

[NX127]

Yes

[IBeMe]

If she just wrote a bit more then absolutely! But as she is the main reason I ever fell in love with music and pop culture etc then I will say he'll yeah! Queen

[IBeMe]

Also don't forget she is stunning and very marketable!

[alestevens]

Taylor also does all of that. So does Katy. So does P!nk

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by ultraviolento

Her voice is average and she can't write so talent wise she's far from it, imo. She's also the only pop girl who doesn't have an 150m+ grossing tour, which is weird since she has no many hits. Her album sales are also pretty mediocre, 7 albums = 30m is underwhelming when you have Taylor, Beyoncé and Gaga doing almost the same numbers with only 4-5 releases and without all them hits.

Her tour grossed 140 million stop being so nit picky
Taylor and Gaga haven't sold 30 million please she's sold 200 million records total which is more than Bey, GaGa or Taylor will ever sell.

[AMENHOOKER]

Rihanna is a great pop star with a nice style but she doesn't have much talent and musicianship to fall back on.

[IBeMe]

Originally posted by alestevens

Taylor also does all of that. So does Katy. So does P!nk

Ya but their missing that earthshattering presence she has. Like she demands attention when she walks..she is setting herself up for one heck of a legacy tbh.
Pink is one of my favs but there's just something that rihanna has over her and Taylor, Katy etc...idk how to explain it :/

[J a y]

Lol, no.

[Bimbo]

Not really tbh.

[Djbrian]

Idk about the complete package but she definitely has that x factor that most of the pop girls don't have

[Kali.]

No, she's far from it. Gaga and Taylor are full package to me.

[Tuxedo]

Yep, she's the biggest female artist of our time. She has everything.

EDIT: No need to point everything out, just deal.

[ultraviolento]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Her tour grossed 140 million stop being so nit picky
Taylor and Gaga haven't sold 30 million please she's sold 200 million records total which is more than Bey, GaGa or Taylor will ever sell.

140m # 150m, sorry.

I said Beyoncé, Gaga and Taylor are doing ALMOST the same numbers, learn how to read. And the difference is not even that big, Taylor is near 29m and Beyoncé is near 30m. And they have 2 less releases. Let me not get started @ networths.

200m records are cute but yeah, that's it. Being an album force and a touring force is more impressive nowadays.

[DitaBoy12]

I like riri but