[iHype.]

Originally posted by iHype.

But you use iTunes positions which are from ONE WEEK.

iTunes the past week is representative, but airplay the past week isn't?

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by Giselle

So if it sold 50k in Africa (which I'm sure it didn't, just going along with your delusion), and about 250k WW and about 180k in the US... that would mean she sold 20k outside of the US and Africa. Sounds pretty local to me!

Sounds about right. People in EU or AUS don't use R&B, and she didn't promote or tour there (besides a performance in England)

She even went to Japan, and although the venue was small, it was filled.

You're not gonna win this argument. You're calling her local because she's not big in Europe when it's not the only continent in the world or the only one that mattered. She was at a Sold out show in Nigeria in February, so IDK. They definitely know who she is, and they definitely use her.

[DitaBoy12]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Moo and Madead really aren't that different from each other anyway idg why you're all fighting over who's more relevant now since they're both middle aged flops who aren't used by this current generation

Poor rihanna what hope does she have then?

[rihannafan]

PAPA PAPARAZZI

[bringhimdowndown]

Originally posted by rihannafan

PAPA PAPARAZZI

Stan a bit.

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

This is 100% not true at all and I don't really understand where it's even coming from

Most of our faves songs are forgotten within a year or two. How is this not true?

Even in the US our faves (except Beyoncé) only have two or three songs that people will remember longer than 5 years and that's where they promote and try to gain exposure.

[RobynYoBank]

Y'all need to come over and enjoy this perfect album with me right now.

[Vin]

DitaBoy12, your signature...



...Vin

[Badger]

Who brought up Madonna/Mariah in the first place?

[jayyyxtee]

https://vine.co/v/ME0XhYuve1r

Is Tony a closet case why on earth would she tell him that

[Kool_Aid_King]

374 2Pac 2Pac: Greatest Hits
835 2Pac All Eyez On Me (Remastered)
1419 2Pac Me Against the World

2Pac better punch a bit on the iTunes albums chart

[G.U.Y. Gaga]

Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King

Most of our faves songs are forgotten within a year or two. How is this not true?

Even in the US our faves (except Beyoncé) only have two or three songs that people will remember longer than 5 years and that's where they promote and try to gain exposure.

It kind of isn't tho...

Originally posted by jayyyxtee

https://vine.co/v/ME0XhYuve1r

Is Tony a closet case why on earth would she tell him that

I think she is trying to kill him

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

See this is the problem, statements like this make it seem like they are on the same level now when Madonna's last album sold 1.7m copies, produced a single that went Top 10 in 20 countries (mostly thanks to digital sales, which is mostly used by young people...so what does that say about her appeal? ) and produced a 300m grossing tour.

In comparison Mariah's album will be lucky to sell 300k worldwide. She had a moderate hit in the US but only because she basically featured on her own song with a younger, more relevant singer taking the lead on the track.

I will admit any day that "#Beautiful" ***** on anything from MDNA but popularity wise let's NOT get it mixed up.

Okay so Madonna fell off less than Mariah did in terms of commercial success and Mariah fell off less than Madonna in terms of quality. But they're both shadows of their former selves?

Madonna has her tours and Mariah has their Christmas song, but neither of them will ever get back even half of the relevancy they once did. The GP hate older women unless your name is Cher.

[Giselle]

I guess KAK is right, it's not fair to drag an R&B artist for being unknown in Europe.


But the US however: http://livepopbars.com/lpb1024.php
CTRL+F: Brandy

[Kool_Aid_King]

Alright. Someone in a non-english speaking country confirm this:

Are 99% of our faves forgotten within a year or two?

Y'all are stupid as hell if you think the US isn't the most important market our faves should focus on (Besides touring ofc)

[BobBertran1992]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Okay so Madonna fell off less than Mariah did in terms of commercial success and Mariah fell off less than Madonna in terms of quality. But they're both shadows of their former selves?

Madonna has her tours and Mariah has their Christmas song, but neither of them will ever get back even half of the relevancy they once did. The GP hate older women unless your name is Cher.

[RihannasVeryOwn]

Originally posted by DitaBoy12

Poor rihanna what hope does she have then?

Um Rihanna isn't a middle aged flop? I don't see your point?

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by Giselle

I guess KAK is right, it's not fair to drag an R&B artist for being unknown in Europe.


But the US however: http://livepopbars.com/lpb1024.php
CTRL+F: Brandy

As if black people buy music That's your biggest mistake right there.

[Kool_Aid_King]

Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn

Um Rihanna isn't a middle aged flop? I don't see your point?

She'll die by 40, so she kinda is middle-aged

[BAYAR]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

Y'all need to come over and enjoy this perfect album with me right now.

2.5/5